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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 15, 2015, 3:47 PM
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I would take that dude in a heartbeat.
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 15, 2015, 3:59 PM
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he is a blowhard. You have one of the best. Give me a team full of five stars and I could do middle school gym class with them and still win.
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 15, 2015, 4:16 PM
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He can be whatever he wants. he turns those guys into monsters
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 15, 2015, 8:26 PM
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Take it from someone who actually knows......that guys just yells and waves towels.
The workout is the same one Saban has done since he was at Mich St.
Clemson has one of the top S&C programs in the country.....just ask Morotti, Moffitt (who btw Cochrane came from) etc.
Just let Batson do his thing
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Coot is afraid of what is ahead for his team after seeing
Jan 15, 2015, 10:04 PM
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defense this year and the great group of OL coming in.
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 7:51 AM
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It's crazy all the guys that just yell and do nothing else have two things in common .The hatch system and National title
"Four years after Tennessee installed the Hatch system, they won the national championship (1998)," Hatch said. "Four years after Miami installed the Hatch system, they won the national championship (2001).
"Four years after LSU installed it, LSU won the national championship (2003)."
A few years after USC installed it, they won the 2004 national championship. (Coach Carlisle)
And in its 3rd year under the Hatch system run by Moffitt disciple Scott Cochran, Alabama won the National Championship this year (2009).
And add FSU to this also since they installed the hatch system 2009 and won it all in 2013
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 7:53 AM
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siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 8:25 AM
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Don't like the truth
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 8:31 AM
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The truth as told by 54?
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 8:38 AM
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It's crazy the guys that win TITLES not just games use it . Just look at Fsu they have always had great athletes and top recruiting what changed ? New coach Jimbo and a new strength coach
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awesome and when clemson starts running a pro style
Jan 16, 2015, 8:53 AM
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offense & not a huhn, let me know. there are other programs that won national titles too and they do not use hatch.
no one says that there can't be 3, 4, 5 plus systems that work. saying batson 'sucks' because it's not hatch is patently ####### stupid.
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Re: awesome and when clemson starts running a pro style
Jan 16, 2015, 8:56 AM
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Morotti, Moffitt
Crazy when Uf won 2 titles who did they use ? Mickey Marotti
When Ohio State won it this year who did they use ? Mickey Marotti
I didn't say batson sucked . I said when he retires which is coming . I hope we get a guy like this
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you didn't have to say it, i've seen your posts & there's a
Jan 16, 2015, 9:06 AM
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reason for my quotations marks.
there are other much greater issues at play. clemson does not run the same systems as those teams you mention which is a tremendous difference.
42 wins in 4 years, i think it's working out; things can always get better and they are.
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Re: you didn't have to say it, i've seen your posts & there's a
Jan 16, 2015, 9:13 AM
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What does the type of offense have to do with it ? Being strong in the weight room doesn't mean crap unless you can bring that strength onto the football field . Wow our OLine can bench 500 pounds but can't get a push on a tiny Sc state dline . It's all about functional strength
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practicing to reach 100 plays per game vs 70? no difference
Jan 16, 2015, 9:15 AM
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at all if you're an idiot.
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Re: practicing to reach 100 plays per game vs 70? no difference
Jan 16, 2015, 9:19 AM
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2013- 81.5
2014- 76.8
Yep we run 100 plays all the time haha
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yes, we do. 5+ days a week. the lsu game is nirvana for
Jan 16, 2015, 9:27 AM
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this scheme; was that hatch strewn all over the field? or tOSU in the orange? or saban crying a river about the hunh because his fat boys can't keep up and it's hard?
we are conditioned completely different running the hunh whether you care to acknowledge it or not. the entire scheme is built, practiced and designed for volume and to wear down bigger teams with space, not bellying up at the point of attack.
it's just football, don't let it get in your way.
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Re: yes, we do. 5+ days a week. the lsu game is nirvana for
Jan 16, 2015, 9:30 AM
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So let me get this straight we are weak on the OLine because we run the hunh haha please stop talking
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so let me get this straight, we won 42 games in 4 years with
Jan 16, 2015, 9:35 AM
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a weak o line? we are the number one rated defense in the land because we're weak?
haha, you're hilarious. go on.
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Re: so let me get this straight, we won 42 games in 4 years with
Jan 16, 2015, 9:38 AM
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The fact that you don't think our OLine is weak is all I need to know about you football knowledge
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the fact that you don't understand the differences in scheme
Jan 16, 2015, 9:41 AM
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and have avoided each offering just galvanized what i already knew. you're a football moron.
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Re: the fact that you don't understand the differences in scheme
Jan 16, 2015, 9:54 AM
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Hey you said it we don't have a weak OLine haha
Stop talking you are clueless .
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haha, i said clemson won 42 games in 4 years & could not
Jan 16, 2015, 10:12 AM
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do that with a weak o line nor could clemson roll out the number 1 defense in all the land not having any mayonaisse.
haha, i know you're having a difficult time wrapping your limited football knowledge around those two things, but it's ok, maybe one day you'll makes some sense. i'm rooting for you.
if this is all going to0 fast for you, you could always pull a hatch and roll around on the ground like lsu?
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Re: haha, i said clemson won 42 games in 4 years & could not
Jan 16, 2015, 10:17 AM
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Ah, the old hatch "falling like flies" strategy. 60% of the time, it works every time.
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funny thing is, i hate the huhn-spread and you know this.
Jan 16, 2015, 10:20 AM
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i'd love to run a system closer to many of those 54 listed.
fingers crossed DW learns to slide before fall camp breaks.
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Re: haha, i said clemson won 42 games in 4 years & could not
Jan 16, 2015, 10:23 AM
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Spin it however you would like the OLine is weak and has been weak since Batson got here . What has changed over those years OLine coaches but what has stayed the same Batson . You are happy with 42 wins and no titles that's fine but some of us set the bar higher and want National Titles .
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Re: haha, i said clemson won 42 games in 4 years & could not
Jan 16, 2015, 10:24 AM
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So yer sayin that if Clemson has an elite Oline, an elite QB and an elite defense that we have a better chance of winning a championship?
Can you teach me your football wizard ways?
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Re: haha, i said clemson won 42 games in 4 years & could not
Jan 16, 2015, 10:29 AM
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Greg McElroy is elite ?
AJ McCarron is elite ?
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yeah, ok, i'll spin 42 wins in 4 years and the number ONE D
Jan 16, 2015, 10:32 AM
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in all the land, while you cry me another river. the salt in your tears are a bitter-sweet reminder that even though clemson prides itself as being a football skewl, some fans were left at the station long after the train departed.
no worries, hopefully we'll send someone back for you, ok?
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Re: yeah, ok, i'll spin 42 wins in 4 years and the number ONE D
Jan 16, 2015, 10:34 AM
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"Pure strength that can't be converted to athletic strength is of no use to an athlete," Hatch said, launching into an example using a former LSU football player. "A delivery man can move a refrigerator 10 yards, but he can't move it as fast as (former LSU defensive lineman) Booger McFarland can move it 10 yards.
"In Olympic-style lifts, you're standing on your feet. That's the way you play football. You're not laying on your back like you would for a bench press."
The Hatch system focuses on overall explosive strength and doesn't target body parts the way bodybuilders sculpt themselves for on-stage posing or the beach.
"In Olympic lifting and in football, your body is working as a single unit," Hatch said. "You don't use your hamstrings on one play and your pecs the next."
Football players do specific leg, hip and back work, but it's part of a system that strengthens those areas for better explosive strength in competition. Hatch said the system also demands -- and exacts -- mental toughness.
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awesome, he's a good one, no doubt... so is batson and
Jan 16, 2015, 10:43 AM
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so are the 42 wins and a wrecking ball of a defense, maybe the best clemson has ever seen?
everything is improving and i'm glad you're here for it even if you don't appreciate it unfolding in front of you.
i have concerns as well, which i've shared many times, but this batson thang is not one of them. you do not accomplish what these clemson teams have without accomplished S&C. you just don't.
now, ebb tide! and help that lsu player off the field, 'cause he looks gassed and after all, it's the right thing to do.
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Re: awesome, he's a good one, no doubt... so is batson and
Jan 16, 2015, 10:52 AM
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No we won 42 games and had the number 1 defense because of the type of athletics we have coming in and the coaching we have . Imagine how many wins we could have had with the proper nutrition and strength and condition coach
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coaching including S&C, you can't separate them no matter
Jan 16, 2015, 11:11 AM
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how much you tighten your sphincter and wish it so.
clemson is last on your list in money and just recently got a training table plus increased staff including nutritionists.
dabo has gotten buy in from the highest reaches of clemson and it continues to show on the field, that includes trying to catch up in support staff and facilities where clemson has been dwarfed for many years by those programs you run out.
continue to dream your little dream and ignore the real differences both on and off the field. i like you football ignant, just so you know.
42 baby, the answer to the universe... just not yours 54.
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no, not at all...
Jan 16, 2015, 11:14 AM
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[rolls eyes]
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Re: no, not at all...
Jan 16, 2015, 11:31 AM
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He got Batson
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oh no, you've got a photo of a guy that out grew a position
Jan 16, 2015, 11:37 AM
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like philip price from a 235 lb walk-on te to starting left tackle for the acc champs.
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Re: oh no, you've got a photo of a guy that out grew a position
Jan 16, 2015, 11:40 AM
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You thank Rendrick cried a little when news broke that they don't let 265 lb guys play wide receiver?
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nothing worse than watching an ath like rendrick try to find
Jan 16, 2015, 11:43 AM
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his sweet spot. glad vic did. there's a lot of others out there that don't either.
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Re: nothing worse than watching an ath like rendrick try to find
Jan 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
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Taylor was fine at wr and wonder how much weight Vic puts on before the combine
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obviously he was not fine at wr, did not have "it" at lb and
Jan 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
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did not have the edge needed to man the fb/hb spot.
his injuries early on didn't help either.
vic isn't running up and down the field in practice or games, i hope he puts on weight.
seriously, this is too easy.
you're a hatch fan, good for you.
clemson is it great shape for the long run, good for me.
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Re: no, not at all...
Jan 16, 2015, 11:44 AM
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I dont have a dog in this fight, but rendick came into Clemson a chiseled mass.
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did franc give you a hall pass to leave the lunge young man?***
Jan 16, 2015, 11:45 AM
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Re: did franc give you a hall pass to leave the lunge young man?***
Jan 16, 2015, 11:46 AM
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don't tell me what to do.
signed franc
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that's just juan of the reasons i like franc more than gwp.***
Jan 16, 2015, 11:52 AM
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Re: that's just juan of the reasons i like franc more than gwp.***
Jan 16, 2015, 11:54 AM
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I thought it was his pantry full of gluten free communion wafers.
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no, that's a delta
Jan 16, 2015, 11:58 AM
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along with his coot wife & 4 coot chillins, but i try to overlook those short comings.
sometimes it's harder than others...
no baptist
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Re: no, that's a delta
Jan 16, 2015, 12:07 PM
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well, I hope his butt heals properly so he can come back out to play.
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Depends on if he used the equestrian model....***
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Re: no, not at all...
Jan 16, 2015, 11:49 AM
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He came in as a physical specimen and left as an overmuscled blimp unable to move.
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Re: no, not at all...
Jan 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
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do you have a point?, I did not bother reading up until this far.
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he has
Jan 16, 2015, 11:56 AM
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a man crush, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Re: he has
Jan 16, 2015, 11:58 AM
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I just use him to re-charge TU's...
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i know a lot of folks think 54's a coot. i still
Jan 16, 2015, 12:02 PM
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believe he's all tiger, just a misguided juan; he's his own worst enema.
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dood has mad skeelz.***
Jan 16, 2015, 9:36 AM
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fencebusters®
Jan 16, 2015, 8:51 AM
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Maxwell came into the NFL stiff—literally. He couldn’t touch his toes while standing. So he took up hot yoga and has been dedicated to it for three years. He even finds a way to do it in road cities. Sometimes before he goes to bed on the road he’ll do the poses right there in the room—Crouching Camel or whatever it’s called. He’s proud of it. It got him through shin, hamstring and shoulder injuries that kept him off the field while I was able to earn a role. The way he feels about yoga is the way I feel about film study, because I know I’m not the best athlete playing corner in the NFL.
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Re: fencebusters®
Jan 16, 2015, 9:41 AM
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Well that settles it. The Hatchy Crouching Camel/Drunk Dragon method is what we need to look as good as Alabama looked against teams like, oh, I dunno. . .Oklahoma.
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Re: fencebusters®
Jan 16, 2015, 9:51 AM
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Since 1998 BCS How many teams won tittles using hatch
Bama-3
Lsu- 2
Fsu -1
Tenn-1
Miami-1
USC-1
Uf won 2 but do not know the type of system he used but he is the same guy urban is using at Ohio state
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Are all those teams still using that system?***
Jan 16, 2015, 10:28 AM
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Re: Are all those teams still using that system?***
Jan 16, 2015, 10:32 AM
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I know bama , Lsu , Fsu do the others I do not off the top of my head takes a lot of digging
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Re: fencebusters®
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Dude pulling up BCS figures is completely ridiculous. The sec had so much favoritism that even esecpn analysts would say the sec championship was the national title game.
They didn't earn titles, much like the incest bowl.
Look at it this way, this year under the bcs bama would have beat fsu. How did system work for them when they had to earn the title?
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Your in the NFL?
Jan 16, 2015, 10:02 AM
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How longs Batson been here?
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Re: Your in the NFL?
Jan 16, 2015, 10:04 AM
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Think like 18 years at Clemson
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 9:55 AM
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Has Hulk Hogans name come up yet?
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We don't need Scottie's Pharmacy at Clemson....***
Jan 16, 2015, 11:53 AM
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Re: Whenever Batson retires
Jan 16, 2015, 1:17 PM
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If we get him do we get the HGH in the package too?
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