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It seems that expansion rumors have never really
Jul 27, 2022, 12:37 PM
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amounted to much, if anything really. TAMU, Mizzou, Nebraska, Maryland, Rutgers, OK, Texas, USC, UCLA - they all just happened with no rumors leading up, only news leaks hours before announcements were made. Same for the ACC with Miami, Va Tech, BC, Syracuse, and Pitt.
I really don't put any stock into any particular scenario that's rumored about. Odds are it's a nothing burger.
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They have to add those teams.....
Jul 27, 2022, 1:46 PM
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to:
A) Make a Western POD for USC & UCLA
B) To control the playoff. No one is controlling the playoff with 16 team conferences. Too many teams that matter would be left out. I can promise you the SEC and B1G want to control the playoff.
I'm amazed ppl think the ACC, barring a miracle of ND and maybe a PSU joining (not happening), will survive. There is no scenario where the ACC can add teams that will markedly increase TV revenues. Dabo and Saban have told everyone where this is headed.
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When BIG added two Cali teams the writing was on the wall
Jul 27, 2022, 1:57 PM
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you dont add 2 programs from Cali and expect them to play all their games back East.
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Re: When BIG added two Cali teams the writing was on the wall
Jul 27, 2022, 2:02 PM
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exactamundo!
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Re: When BIG added two Cali teams the writing was on the wall
Jul 28, 2022, 4:16 PM
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Yeap
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Re: When BIG added two Cali teams the writing was on the wall
Jul 27, 2022, 2:12 PM
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I agree. I would be happy with adding Oregon and Washington. Stanford and Cal do nothing for me, but I think the B1G wants in the Bay Area market. I dont think either school deliver that market, but I am sure much smarter people than me are working on this. I love the idea of B1G football in 4 time slots, from noon to 1 am or so. Personally, I hope the B1G goes south. I would love to add UVA, NC, Clemson, GT, and Miami or Fl St. The B1G needs more recruiting territories and Georgia and Florida should be a high priority. We need to add teams that are strong in football (for once) and Clemson fits the bill. I think GT, in the 10 years with B1G money and a commitment to improving facilities and football spending, could be an above average to strong team. I know most of you have your eye on the SEC though.
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I honestly don't care which one we go to. It's becoming
Jul 27, 2022, 2:16 PM
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obvious that we are eventually going to one of them.
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Re: When BIG added two Cali teams the writing was on the wall
Jul 27, 2022, 4:56 PM
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Have you ever visited GT? It would take a lot of money to get that program relevant. The land around campus to build up and expand their program with updated or new facilities would be immense. They are literally a block off I-85. Plus they have a strong international student population that many times does not translate back to American football.
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 27, 2022, 2:09 PM
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I agree with they have to add teams so they have a Western Pod. Seems like adding Cal or Stanford or even Washington is allowing three lesser teams to get whipped every year by powerful Big 10 conference. HAHAHAHAHA ok maybe not that powerful, yet I do not see any of those teams ever having a winning record any time soon. I know money rules all of this, yet I would hate to see my team get pummeled week in and week out. That has to suck!!! Gamecock fans feel free to contribute to this post.....how does it feel?
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 27, 2022, 2:16 PM
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I don't see what the B1G gets by adding Cal and Stanford. It seems like if they add four it would be Washington & Oregon from the Pac and UVA & UNC from the ACC. That adds four more states to the conference footprint.
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 27, 2022, 4:08 PM
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You really need more than four teams out west. Stanford helps with ND too. Keep in mind, the B1G could eventually say no one in their conference will play ND. That leaves ND in a lurch with the number of traditional opponents they play every year. Teams like USC and MICH will be hard to replace with "equal quality."
Stanford & Cal def. help with the academic reputation. THis is mostly about $$$, but not entirely. Not every team will be able to bring in $100M extra each year....see UCLA as prime example.
Conferences will eventually need more than 20...it'll likely be nearer to 24. Plenty of room for the UNC/UVA/Pitts of the world...
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 27, 2022, 4:36 PM
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The B1G isn't going to say "nobody in our conference is going to play the school that gets the highest television ratings in the US."
That said, I do think that a 24-team B1G makes a lot of sense. Add Cal, Stanford, Oregon, and Washington out west. I can see Notre Dame being a lot more interested with both SC and Stanford in the B1G - not to mention old regional rivals like Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue. Fill out the conference with UNC, UVA, and GT. Kansas doesn't help football, even though they are a basketball blue blood - imagine Kansas, Indiana, and UCLA in one conference!
I have a hard time getting much past twenty logical members for the SEC. Clemson, Miami, FSU, Virginia Tech, N.C. State. I'm not sure if two more Florida schools add enough value to the media deal. VT and NCSU add to the footprint - and NCSU was rumored to be sniffing around there when Maryland left the ACC. But nobody else even possibly adds value. None of the Big-12 leftovers.
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 28, 2022, 3:41 PM
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Pretty soon, these mega conferences are going to be playing almost all in-conference games. If you are fighting for playoff spots for your league's teams...and you want to force ND's hand.....it can certainly be done. JMO, ND has the power now.....but I can see their choices evaporating in the future as leagues expand. Not that it may matter to them b/c ND isn't as motivated by $$$ as other schools and its allegiance to its independence could make up for (in their minds) the $ shortfall. I'm just not convinced the B1G or the SEC is going to save a seat at the playoff table for ND if they say they will always be independent. There are plenty of great matchups and the leagues' priority (for playoff spots) will be to their members.
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UO, UW, Stanford and Cal, along with USC & UCLA represent...
Jul 27, 2022, 4:49 PM
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6 of the original 8 teams from the old Pac 8 conference.
This makes total sense to me as they show loyalty to their longtime partner conference by completely absorbing them (minus Wazzu and Oregon State who are completely worthless any way you look at it).
The B1G has no long history, feelings or loyalty towards Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah, who are latecomers to the party.
This is the end game for the B1G with a door left open for ND sometime in the future.
Since they are going to clinch the TV deal before adding more schools, it makes me question if the four schools just mentioned will receive a full share of TV revenue if they are added later.
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Re: Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Cal with the B1G going to
Jul 28, 2022, 4:11 PM
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So there are 2 articles and we are not mentioned in either? Or did I miss something?
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