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What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:22 PM
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Wanna do wood floors but don't know much about the different types (hardwoods, engineered, etc). Anybody have good/bad experiences? I know the humidity in this area can wreck havoc on some kinds. I want the best bang for the buck.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:23 PM
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This was meant for the lounge...my bad.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:36 PM
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We re-floored our entire house (except bathrooms) with oak flooring from Lowe's. Very good product and a fair price. They also have contractor's that will put it down.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:38 PM
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where do you live? his question got me to start searching. i'm thinking of doing same thing.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:37 PM
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I chose whatever was easiest for my wife to put down.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:38 PM
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I'll need to shop around for one of those too.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 10:11 PM
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Splurge on some knee pads when you find her. It's worth the investment and saves on replacements down the road after the floors are done.
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Orange Blooded [2550]
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The gift that keeps on giving!***
Feb 16, 2017, 7:46 AM
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:40 PM
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Dirt floor. Never gets dirty.
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Heart pine is timeless. It's softer than oak, but has tons
Feb 15, 2017, 9:46 PM
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of character.
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Orange Blooded [2479]
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heart pine is also termite proof***
Feb 15, 2017, 10:49 PM
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Re: heart pine is also termite proof***
Feb 16, 2017, 6:17 AM
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And costs a gazoo
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You get what you pay for***
Feb 16, 2017, 10:43 AM
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:49 PM
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If you are near the coast call Steve at Charleston Heart Pine in Jamestown. He has different grades at different prices.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 16, 2017, 6:40 AM
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You can't get to Jamestown from where you live. It might be on the map.lol
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Avoid Lumber Liquidators ......
Feb 15, 2017, 9:53 PM
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....my personal experience ....BAD
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:56 PM
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Solid Oak or hickory. My brother lays and refinishes floors in the Columbia area if you need someone to do them.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 9:59 PM
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Yep, oak and hickory are the most durable.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 10:05 PM
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Thanks, I'm near Clemson. I want to lay them myself just to save on labor a bit. I've done a little before and it didn't seem too difficult. Floating floors seem like the easiest of all...just not sure about their durability.
I do like oak and the hardness of hickory. Just not a fan of the knots in hickory and pine species.
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Have built two houses in past 10 years, one in
Feb 15, 2017, 10:07 PM
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Western NC, one in Greenville, SC. Both were white oak. One was over a crawl space, so very standard installation, the recent one on a slab. We decided to not glue the wood to the slab, but to glue 3/4 inch subfloor to the slab, then standard installation of the wood to the subfloor. Both floors are white oak.
The key to both - which relates to your humidity question - was to have the flooring delivered to the house two weeks before installation. As this is one of the latter jobs it is easy to want to hurry it along, but don't. Acclimation is important. In our case the wood was milled in Greenville and warehoused only 6 miles away, but the mill owner said to acclimate nevertheless, so we did. Neither floor has been any problem at all, transitions from winter to summer and back without a blip.
We handled the subcontracting for the floors ourselves, and found a local mill that sold us leftover lots at a great price (I think I remember about $2.50/ft). This is required slightly different wood from room to room, but that actually worked out to be a feature rather than negative. We found an installer-finisher who installs gym floors and was between jobs, and I think his laying and finishing cost was about $1.50/ft. This was before the cost of the subfloor, glue, poly, etc, so when it was all done we have about $6.00 or $6.50/ft in it.
That is way more than you wanted to know. Have the wood inside the house two weeks before installation, you will be fine.
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Re: Have built two houses in past 10 years, one in
Feb 15, 2017, 10:11 PM
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No that's all good to hear, thanks. What are your thoughts on floating floors?
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Oculus Spirit [97717]
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My wealthy cousin had an old log jam
Feb 16, 2017, 10:45 AM
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dredged up from the Pee Dee River. Had the lumber custom cut and stained. It had been sitting at the bottom of the river for 150+ years. No moisture issues at all. And it looks awesome.
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Will water/humidity be involved?
Feb 15, 2017, 10:16 PM
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Engineered flooring will not move like unfinished hardwoods. If you don't mind movement and character, it's difficult to beat unfinished hardwoods=maple,hickory,oak.
If you want uniform flooring that will not move, go engineered. Hickory has the most variation. Maple and oak are the most consistent in appearance.
Also with unfinished woods, narrow boards don't move as much as wide boards. 6 inch boards will crown and cup. 2.75 to 3 inch boards will stay uniform.
Pets? Dogs and furniture will scratch even the hardest flooring. In that case, there are tile products that look like wood. I feel, however that these will become very dated in 5-10 years.
In other words, there isn't a best...there is a best for you. My personal favorite is reclaimed oak barn wood. Any hickory is a close second.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 15, 2017, 10:25 PM
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Fake wood ceramics are all the rage these days. Look better than laminate but wont break the bank.
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First question: What type of subfloor do you have?***
Feb 15, 2017, 11:05 PM
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Re: First question: What type of subfloor do you have?***
Feb 15, 2017, 11:10 PM
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It's just plywood over a crawl space. I may have to add another layer of plywood to raise them to match the soon-to-be tile in the bathrooms/kitchen.
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No problem.. I use 15# roofing felt for underlayment stapled
Feb 15, 2017, 11:14 PM
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with no overlap.
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PS: Be sure to glue and screw that second layer of subfloor
Feb 15, 2017, 11:17 PM
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WELL or you'll be squeaking with every step...or another layer of felt to take it out of play.
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Re: TMail me if you have any questions... I could give you
Feb 16, 2017, 8:42 PM
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Thanks! I may have to do that. Im still shopping around but will be trying to lay them down in April/May.
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now this is why i frequent TigerNet. this was awesome.
Feb 16, 2017, 12:24 AM
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i'm not a lunger, so it's nice to see this on the mange, actually.
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Lived in SC my whole life. Suggest REAL wood you finish
Feb 28, 2019, 9:34 PM
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the way you want. Whether you pick Pine, Red Oak, etc. I personally would not get a pre-finished floor if you have a quality house you plan to stay in. Unless you have no pets, no kids and you put 3M film on your windows you are eventually going to get scratches, fading and possibly even water damage. Not to mention styles change and that cool gray, pickled or whatever color today will not be cool in 10 years. So, I prefer a nice thick solid wood floor that I can refinish down the road.
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Also personally would not use wood in kitchen or laundry
Feb 16, 2017, 1:04 AM
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Too much opportunity for water damage and usually too much foot traffic (kitchen) so eventually the floor will look much worse than the rest of the house. I think tile is much better for kitchens and the laundry (or save some $ and go vinyl in the laundry).
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You can cut and refinish a pre-finished 3/4" oak floor if
Feb 16, 2017, 1:34 AM
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and when it comes to that... Even change the shading of the stain, tho I wouldn't get carried away with it.... I agree about the wet areas...
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Some of the groutable, vinyl tiles are very good. I installed
Feb 16, 2017, 1:52 AM
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some Trafficmaster from Home Depot five years ago, and still looks like new. It is peel and stick vinyl, but thick enough you can grout it. Installed some on concrete and some over old sheet vinyl.
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Sand is becoming really popular
Feb 16, 2017, 1:48 AM
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I put it in the downstairs living room and kitchen. It gave it a cool beach vibe unti last summer when it became infested with fire ants.
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 16, 2017, 4:29 AM
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I work for a flooring manufacturer and we actually have the largest laminate manufacturer in the US in Barnwell, SC. If you go with laminate, get a 12mm beveled item with a good pad underneath. Installs like a dream. I put some new product like this in my house (1200 sq ft of it) and my wife and I love it.
Price will be a big deciding factor for you when it comes to hardwood, engineered, or laminate (which is engineered pine basically)
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 16, 2017, 6:38 AM
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Best advice of all.......roofing felt as underlay. Whole house done 12 years ago, never a squeak. I used #2 pine whole house.....liked the markings. Get any water spills up NOW.
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Whatever floor you use, read the manufacuter's instructions
Feb 16, 2017, 6:46 AM
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and follow them to a tee. Your installer will be smarter than the instructions and will know it's okay to take shortcuts then he'll blame the problems on manufacturers' defects.
I'm an engineer and do structural inspections. I only get calls where there are problems. In winter I get calls for gaps in floors, in summer I get the buckling and cupping calls.
1. Very important - Acclimate the product 2 weeks minimum, but read the manufacturer's recommendation. You can not wait to long. This means the house is closed up and HVAC is running like normal as if you were living in the house.
2. If at all possible, put the floor down in fall or spring.
3. Make sure there are no humidity issues in the crawl space. Tape your vapor barrier joints. Check your foundation block. If it has a white chalky substance on it, then you probably have high moisture and may need to address this first.
4. Take moisture readings of your subfloor and make sure they are in the manufacturer's range.
5. Carefully inspect the vapor barrier that goes on top of the subfloor, especially at edges of vents.
6. Make sure that the moisture readings of the new floor are within manufacturer's tolerance as well. It should be very close to the sublfoor.
7. Gaps at the edges are required and important. Be careful around openings. This is where expansion is sometimes limited.
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^^^^^ GREAT advice ^^^^^
Feb 16, 2017, 7:13 AM
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+1
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Re: What's the best kind of flooring for the southeast?
Feb 16, 2017, 7:27 AM
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Some damb good advice in all above - can't add to it other than to say:
If you're a fair (or better) DIYer AND enjoy this sort of thing, about ten years ago, I put down about 1250 sf of Bruce's Marsh prefinished Oak flooring (3/4") from Home Depot (it's about $4 sf). Bought a floor nailer and did it myself. It still looks great. Be sure to follow the advice above, especially the underlayment tips, acclimation, etc.
Good luck!
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