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Orange Blooded [2669]
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Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 9:02 AM
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Saw an article that basically says Americans wil need to get the booster every 4-6 months to remain protected from covid.
I originally got vaccinated (mainly because work forced my hand) but I won't be getting any booster.
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I will rely on the advise of my doctor, not fox news***
Jul 20, 2022, 9:08 AM
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Re: I will rely on the advise of my doctor, not fox news***
Jul 20, 2022, 9:31 AM
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Who's relying on information from Fox News? How much Fox News do you think I consume?
Oh yeah, this is just your same brain dead response every single time somebody brings something up that offends you?
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All-In [47795]
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what makes you think I'm offended? do what you will
Jul 20, 2022, 9:36 AM
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but if you're making medical decisions based on anything but a doctor's advice I do pity you. I use FNC as a mere proxy for whatever foolish trumpy venues you obtain medical advice.
I suppose the only thing that would offend me is if you hold yourself out as a Clemson graduate whilst espousing medically unsound opinions.
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Re: what makes you think I'm offended? do what you will
Jul 20, 2022, 9:49 AM
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but if you're making medical decisions based on anything but a doctor's advice I do pity you. I use FNC as a mere proxy for whatever foolish trumpy venues you obtain medical advice.
I suppose the only thing that would offend me is if you hold yourself out as a Clemson graduate whilst espousing medically unsound opinions.
Lmao. You do a lot of assuming, and most of the time you are way off base.
Have you actually had an intelligent conversation with your doctor regarding mRNA vaccines or boosters?
Imagine getting a shot every 4 months that doesn't prevent you from getting or spreading covid, but protects you from a disease that doesn't kill or really harm healthy people?
I've known 2 people that had to go to the hospital due to covid. One was vaxxed and one was unvaxxed.
I know two children that have myocarditis and another friend my age that has had significant reactions to the vaccine.
I'm not fat, I eat healthy, and I have no risk factors associated with covid. I'm not getting a booster every 4 months, sorry. I formed this opinion based on conversations with my dr, my own life experience, and studies that I have read.
Lastly, you do realize that trump got the vaccine and recommends that you get the vaccine right? So when you say that I get my information from "trumpy venues" you sound like a complete dumbarse. Or for the course though.
Enjoy your day "conservative" Alex.
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Re: what makes you think I'm offended? do what you will
Jul 20, 2022, 9:54 AM
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Also, let's stop acting like doctors have never been wrong on anything.
Doctors have prescribed plenty of medicine that was later recalled due to adverse reactions.
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Re: what makes you think I'm offended? do what you will
Jul 20, 2022, 10:04 AM
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Yes I have numerous discussions with my doctor who is at the top of his field. He regularly tests my antibody levels and uses the data to inform his advice on vaccinations and boosting.
yes, your trumpy venues have out trumped trump. Trump is smart enough to follow doctors advice, his sheeple are are not.
also, making medical decisions based on anecdotal evidence from your acquaintances is dangerously stupid.
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Re: what makes you think I'm offended? do what you will
Jul 20, 2022, 10:28 AM
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Wait, so trumpy venues are contradicting.....Trump?
Can you name some of these venues, since you seem to have so much knowledge on them? I will let you know if I consume their material. You are acting very loony today, are you alright?
I understand reading is not your strong suite, so I will repeat again.....
"I formed this opinion based on conversations with my dr, my own life experience, and studies that I have read."
You see, us normal people get our information and form our opinion from a wide range of sources. I don't form my opinion simply based on my dr. advice alone. I don't form my opinion based on only my real world experience, or the media, or fauci, or the cdc, etc.
Maybe that is why you are so delusional? You don't incorporate your real word experience in your decision making process. You only do what others tell you. Quit being such a sheep and think for yourself.
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you argue like a girl!***
Jul 20, 2022, 10:37 AM
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lol, proving my pt***
Jul 20, 2022, 10:40 AM
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Strictly trusting 1 doctors advise is a good way to get
Jul 20, 2022, 11:15 AM
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killed. It killed my mom and it almost killed me. Her severe 'gas pains' that went on for years ended up being colon cancer that they caught way too late due to her being under 50 and nobody believing it could have been that. Likewise, my doctor would not refer me for a colonoscopy due to my age, despite reoccurring pain that they continually diagnosed as a UTI. Nevermind the fact that 1 UTI in a young male is rare, much less multiple over the course of a few years. Or that the pain was in my colon area.
Thankfully my colon fused to my bladder and didn't bust in my abdominal cavity, otherwise I wouldn't be here either. Thankfully after the 2nd ER visit I was seen by a competent doctor who almost immediately realized what was probably going on and ordered a scan.
I trust specialists and surgeons, most of the rest of them are basically reading off a s-c-r-i-p-t and putting zero critical thought into the root cause of your ailments or potential long term ramifications of the advise they give you. They're going to follow the direction of hospital administration/directors, if word came down to smear dog poop on patients wounds that's what most of them are going to do without question. And you've got to get through them before you can see the specialist or surgeon most of the time.
Based on what we know there's zero reason for someone under 50 who is healthy to get this vaccine. Giving it to your kids is lunacy.
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modern doctors simply follow approved protocol - the ######
Jul 20, 2022, 11:20 AM
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and never think critically or try to actually understand what is going on. They want to get you to the drugs so they can get their bonuses, and they want to do so in a way that won't get them sued for it later (or at least their malpractice insurance will cover.)
So they just go through the routines and shuffle patients in and out, never actually improving anyone's health.
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All-TigerNet [10887]
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###### got censored?
Jul 20, 2022, 11:21 AM
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The word is ######. Like a movie ######. Like "hey say your line, follow the ######!"
This is a "bad" word now?
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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It's been censored for over a decade. It's an HTML thing.***
Jul 20, 2022, 11:22 AM
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All-TigerNet [10887]
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oh right...
Jul 20, 2022, 11:32 AM
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I think I know why that is now that you remind me.... LOL
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Re: What an odd post to TD, lol.***
Jul 20, 2022, 7:56 PM
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have a thumbs up
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Hah, thanks. I was mostly commenting on the oddness.
Jul 21, 2022, 9:46 AM
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I make plenty of other rude and insulting posts that deserve TDs, but an honest helping one is the one that got it, just made me chuckle.
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Re: modern doctors simply follow approved protocol - the ######
Jul 20, 2022, 11:32 AM
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Doctors do NOT get paid for prescribing medications or vaccinations. That is a fact. There is no incentive to prescribe a medication or recommend a vaccination. This is a tiresome myth.
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Re: modern doctors simply follow approved protocol - the ######
Jul 20, 2022, 11:40 AM
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I’ve wasted a lot of time arguing with T net knuckleheads, but this one is on a whole other level
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Ultimately they do. They are paid incentives to follow the
Jul 20, 2022, 11:41 AM
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scr1pt. This is done via convoluted means but ultimately they are paid to stick to the big pharma plan and not deviate.
Obviously they aren't paid per prescription. As with everything else the corrupt criminal government does, they have "regulated" the industry so that it appears things are in the best interest of the people, but the reality is of course that they just added bureaucracy (so the government gets their cut) and obfuscation while still following the same practices.
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Re: Ultimately they do. They are paid incentives to follow the
Jul 20, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Myself and Dr Ron’s say doctors don’t get paid. EdgelordTom insists we do, but then again, you know more than everyone about everything, so you’re probably right on this one too.
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Re: Another outright lie from our resident medical "expert"
Jul 20, 2022, 11:56 AM
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I know right, what would I know about how surgeons get paid? It’s cool, we’ve well established that you’re more in tune with this issue than me or Rons. Do you have a bitchute video or a gateway pundit link for me so I can do my own research?
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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There are some good ones out there, I like our pediatrician
Jul 20, 2022, 11:36 AM
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But like anything in this world, you can't just blindly take their word for everything. You've got to use your own common sense and be your own advocate sometimes.
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Less and less these days, unfortunately.
Jul 20, 2022, 11:51 AM
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I have multiple retired doctors in the family and have heard some real horror stories. Most people have entirely too much faith in the medical system.
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Re: Strictly trusting 1 doctors advise is a good way to get
Jul 20, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Not to discount your experience, but a lot of times even major issues early on have very few or very vague symptoms. It’s the reason we screen for a lot of diseases, to catch things early when they can still be treated. Most times, vague symptoms don’t have great explanations, and it can take a combination of findings to make a diagnosis, which is what happened in your situation- as the disease progresses, its symptoms become more clear. Maybe you got bad doctors before your diagnosis, maybe it was just too broad a differential to start with the most aggressive testing. We also have to be mindful of things like specificity and sensitivity when ordering tests, and pretest probability, and being good stewards of resources.
It would be far easier, and more lucrative, if everyone everywhere got a full lab panel and a head to toe CT every month, but that would fail a lot of the ethical principles of medicine. Or, you know, like edgelord Tom suggests, we’re all just prescribing medicines and doing unnecessary surgeries to get bonuses.
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you have to worry about not being paid for the test you mean***
Jul 20, 2022, 11:55 AM
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Re: you have to worry about not being paid for the test you mean***
Jul 20, 2022, 11:59 AM
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No….
Ordering labs or imaging doesn’t get any doctor paid. Period. Doctors are paid by RVUs, a measure of production for work. The radiologist who reads the imaging gets paid for that work, the person who orders it does not. The person who orders the test gets paid for the visit.
But hey, again, you know everything about everything, so don’t take my word for it.
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Sorry, the actual mechanism didn't fit in one line, but you
Jul 20, 2022, 12:07 PM
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know what I meant. Doctors who order tests that aren't reimbursed don't stick around long.
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Re: Sorry, the actual mechanism didn't fit in one line, but you
Jul 20, 2022, 12:59 PM
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This is how it works. The doctor orders a CT scan for a specified reason. The insurance company may require further information to approve the test. On occasion, the insurance company may decline to approve the test.
If that happens, it’s then up to the patient to proceed with the test and pay out of pocket.
Physicians are under no financial pressure to order lab tests or radiographical studies. Whether the ordered tests get reimbursed likewise has no influence on a physician’s longevity.
Now if you really want to get into the weeds of physician reimbursement and be utterly amused, read up on Resource Valued Units(RVU).
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I get that, but if you've got someone coming in repeatedly
Jul 20, 2022, 1:35 PM
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with the same symptoms, in my mind it makes sense to start troubleshooting further to figure out what the root cause is instead of just rolling with the past 3-4 diagnoses and calling it good. In my moms case, by the time someone thought about it potentially being colon cancer the tumor had totally blocked the colon. This is after seeing multiple doctors over the course of years, now when she got to Emory the care was excellent.
Seems to me a simple colonoscopy in both our cases would have done wonders in preventing things from getting that far. But a lot of these MFers act like they've got some limit on how many referrals they can give or something, looking back it's really bizarre how reluctant anyone was to give me one.
I guess my ultimate point is a lot of folks seem to put their primary care doctor on some sort of untouchable pedestal, where they are the all knowing bastion of medicine. Based on my experience, that's not the case at all. That's like expecting a Jiffy Lube tech to put a new tune on your BMW M5, he might be able to to it, but it's probably best you just let him rotate the tires and change the oil.
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Re: I get that, but if you've got someone coming in repeatedly
Jul 20, 2022, 2:25 PM
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with the same symptoms, in my mind it makes sense to start troubleshooting further to figure out what the root cause is instead of just rolling with the past 3-4 diagnoses and calling it good. In my moms case, by the time someone thought about it potentially being colon cancer the tumor had totally blocked the colon. This is after seeing multiple doctors over the course of years, now when she got to Emory the care was excellent.
Seems to me a simple colonoscopy in both our cases would have done wonders in preventing things from getting that far. But a lot of these MFers act like they've got some limit on how many referrals they can give or something, looking back it's really bizarre how reluctant anyone was to give me one.
I guess my ultimate point is a lot of folks seem to put their primary care doctor on some sort of untouchable pedestal, where they are the all knowing bastion of medicine. Based on my experience, that's not the case at all. That's like expecting a Jiffy Lube tech to put a new tune on your BMW M5, he might be able to to it, but it's probably best you just let him rotate the tires and change the oil.
The ball was definitely dropped in your case. A UTI in a male under 50 is rare. You should have had studies to attempt to find the cause of the UTI rather than simply treating it.
Most primary care doctors are conscientious, but like everything else, some are sloppy which unfortunately can be disastrous when it comes to healthcare.
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I don't really question their conscientiousness
Jul 20, 2022, 2:50 PM
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I don't think it's malicious, it's moreso how they are being trained to look at/handle problems. Particularly when it comes to less common issues. New vaccine for a new virus? Yeahhh, I'll give them a few years to see how that pans out, cause it won't go how it was originally expected to. Very rarely does anything, and it certainly didn't in this case.
To be fair, I'm seeing a lot more of this kind of thing in my industry. If there's not a fault code explicitly telling someone what's wrong it throws them for a loop. It could be something as simple as the air being turned off, and they're in there just changing random settings hoping something sticks without any regard to the further damage they could be doing. Just no common sense.
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 9:18 AM
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May not be exactly within that window, but I do plan on getting boosters. I've known more people that have had serious complications from getting Covid than I know of that have had complications from the vaccine.
This ain't the right board for this question though... Rules are rules, sir
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I ask my doctors questions and follow their advice.
Jul 20, 2022, 9:22 AM
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I'm double boosted.
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 9:30 AM
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It's still an evolving situation. Unless the virus produces a variant that is much more lethal than what is currently circulating, No.
There is still so much that we don't know. With the vaccines, we are playing catchup with the variants and I doubt ever catch up. I chose not to take a 4th shot(2nd booster) of the same product. I'm healthy and did well with COVID in December.
It's here to stay, everyone should assess their own health risks and consult their physician, but taking a shot every 4-6 months is not sustainable.
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No. Got the Moderna shots in early 2021 and got the real
Jul 20, 2022, 9:36 AM
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thing in Nov 2021 - I'll chance it like the flu...
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My physician did not recommend the booster for me.
Jul 20, 2022, 9:44 AM
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He says he has seen a few weird deals with the vaccine but nothing recently with Covid for healthy-ish 30 or 40 year olds.
But he said it probably wouldn't hurt to get it. Just not recommended.
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2nd booster currently only recommended for...
Jul 20, 2022, 9:57 AM
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those over 50 or with underlying health issues.
I'm due for the 2nd booster and will likely get it.
frankly, I don't really follow what the big deal is.
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Re: 2nd booster currently only recommended for...
Jul 20, 2022, 10:04 AM
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It’s not a big deal as long as people have the right to choose. I respect any decision a person wants to make for themselves. I am not vaccinated and will remain so. If someone wants to get a shot every 4 months go for it.
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if your insurance premiums increased
Jul 20, 2022, 10:06 AM
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from lack of vaccine (much like with smoking - also a choice) would you be upset?
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Re: if your insurance premiums increased
Jul 20, 2022, 10:07 AM
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they found a vacine that works?
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yes senior Q***
Jul 20, 2022, 10:21 AM
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Re: if your insurance premiums increased
Jul 20, 2022, 10:15 AM
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Yes, I would be upset because there are plenty of contraindications for talking the shots. There are no contraindications to smoking cessation.
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how about if your doctor signed a note exempting you?***
Jul 20, 2022, 10:24 AM
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Re: how about if your doctor signed a note exempting you?***
Jul 20, 2022, 11:29 AM
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I’ve made a personal hess as log decision not to be vaccinated. Pretty much end of story for me. There’s enough evidence of vaccine complications and inadequacy that I don’t think insurance companies have a leg to stand on. So, we’re talking hypotheticals here.
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Re: 2nd booster currently only recommended for...
Jul 20, 2022, 10:46 AM
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I agree. If you are over 50 and fat, you should probably get vaxxed or have a mitigation plan of your own.
I am not over 50 and not a fatarse. I am very conscious in public settings to prevent myself from getting it. I've been to very limited bars, music venues, etc in the last 2 years (also due to having 2 kids under 3). Both my wife and I have never tested positive for covid throughout the pandemic. I'm vaxxed and she is unvaxxed.
I feel like we've probably had it a few times. My 2 year old goes to a nanny that keeps 5 kids. One kid's mom is very #### about covid and tests her kid weekly. He's tested positive on 6 different occasions in the last 2 years. Wild
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Re: 2nd booster currently only recommended for...
Jul 20, 2022, 11:31 AM
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two things that would most likely work
-school choice
-insurance premiums paid per pound
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boosted
Jul 20, 2022, 10:06 AM
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All-TigerNet [10887]
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Never got any, never will. Had covid once, no big deal, have
Jul 20, 2022, 10:53 AM
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not had it since.
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Legend [17774]
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Maybe annually like the regular flu jab***
Jul 20, 2022, 11:16 AM
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All-In [31462]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 11:50 AM
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I got the moderna series in early 2021, and got the booster just this month because I had to in order to travel. I don’t see myself getting more boosters, but I’m also fit and 35, not an overweight boomer with COPD.
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 12:06 PM
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Are all boomers fat with copd? Interesting.
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All-In [31462]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 12:13 PM
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Is that what I said?
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 12:19 PM
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Nah just sounded like a dig. It’s all good.
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Orange Blooded [2595]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 8:24 PM
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It was a dig. I’m vaxxed and boosted. I have a question for the people who aren’t vaxxed.
What is your reason for not getting the poke? Is it that you don’t like being told what to do or are you scared of it? Legit question.
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Orange Blooded [4679]
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Re: Do you plan to get the booster every 4-6 months?
Jul 20, 2022, 8:38 PM
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My primary reason is that I’ve had Covid and I consider natural immunity a reasonable choice. I believe many studies are showing it’s most likely a better choice. I don’t blame anyone for taking the vaccine. In turn I would expect people to respect my decision. Pretty simple.
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110%er [8984]
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All-In [44042]
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No booster for me if COVID stays mild.
Jul 20, 2022, 10:52 PM
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I got vaxxed and boosted when hospitals were overcrowded and the deaths were high due to nasty COVID strains. Now, COVID is much less severe so I’m not planning to get a booster, especially since I had COVID last month.
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