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What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....
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What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 9, 2022, 10:04 PM

The haters go into hiding. Hopefully they keep winning then haters like nctigs won't post false comments about how the coach has been lucky with his past teams or it was the prior coach's team and or whatever garbage he tends to make up. Go Clemson and Brad keep up the winning ways and silence the haters.

Just found out that Brad Brownell coached Clemson team has the best winning percentage against ACC teams vs all past Clemson coaches. I wonder why that's not brought up? Most wins ever against ACC teams 102 and counting....

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 9, 2022, 10:12 PM

I don't understand the poster who earlier this week said stop buying tickets for four years until Coach BB is gone. These kids need support no matter whether you like the coach or not. PJ Hall plays with passion and has leadership that is second to none. If you have not seen this team play, you are missing something. I read today sixth in nation in 3 point shooting.

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Dec 9, 2022, 10:40 PM

Nah, that only hurts the university and all sports. Not a good look no matter the sport. It's hard enough to fill up when we win.

Rock the John
Go Tigers

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 9, 2022, 10:48 PM

Roughly 8 posts a year. Nearly 100% of which are singing the praises of Brad Brownell and Judge Keller. This seems like a very legit, non scock account. Might want to work on that pulse though.

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Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
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142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Yeah that’s not a coincidence but let’s get to the point here.


Dec 10, 2022, 9:09 AM

Nobody wants Clemson to lose but the way it is with Brad is the same way it was with Tommy B. After so long with someone as a head coach you know exactly what you have. This season has a long way to go before anyone could consider it a good season. If this does happen to end up being a good season it will be the first good season in half a decade. Unless we advance deep into the NCAAT still doesn’t cut it. It’s been past time to move on from Brad and bring some enthusiasm and optimism back to our fans.

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20 wins and NCAA Tournament


Dec 10, 2022, 11:32 AM

If that's not good enough to keep a great basketball coach, you are a pathetic human being.

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Dec 10, 2022, 8:00 PM

premature ejactulaton, Cobb.

Settle down, Beavis.

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Re: Yeah that’s not a coincidence but let’s get to the point here.


Dec 10, 2022, 7:55 PM [ in reply to Yeah that’s not a coincidence but let’s get to the point here. ]


Nobody wants Clemson to lose but the way it is with Brad is the same way it was with Tommy B. After so long with someone as a head coach you know exactly what you have. This season has a long way to go before anyone could consider it a good season. If this does happen to end up being a good season it will be the first good season in half a decade. Unless we advance deep into the NCAAT still doesn’t cut it. It’s been past time to move on from Brad and bring some enthusiasm and optimism back to our fans.





Hmm WRONG, there are a decent amount of people who want Clemson to lose so Brad will be replaced. To say differently is a complete lie.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 7:49 PM [ in reply to Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins..... ]

Yea I was waiting for this. I defend the judge because I agree with him and I think all the hate towards him is a joke. So to get this straight. I don't know the judge, I am living in Orange County, Ca. I doubt the judge lives here. I am a grad of UNCW and I started following Clemson BB when BB arrived. I can say that Clemson is my second favorite BB team in college next to UNCW.

If you think any different you are a fool and I'm just guessing here but I doubt the judge has any secret accounts.

Psychology: People tend to project their own guilt on to others, so maybe you are the one with the secret accounts? This is nctigs right? You sure sound like him? Lack of knowledge especially when you describe Brad and his prior coaching days like at UNCW. I doubt the judge knows the details I've provided about Brad from his UNCW days? Maybe he does because the judge is Brad? Maybe I am Brad? Maybe you are, wait you can't be Brad because you lack the intelligence to know I am not the judge.

Enjoy NCTIGS or whom ever you are??????

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Counting your chickens before they hatch, ain't ya Ms. Keller?

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Dec 10, 2022, 8:06 PM

If we would have listened to you for the last 12 years, then we would have won more than 2 tournament games in 12 years. That's pathetic and you CANNOT defend it.

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Re: Counting your chickens before they hatch, ain't ya Ms. Keller?


Dec 10, 2022, 8:20 PM


If we would have listened to you for the last 12 years, then we would have won more than 2 tournament games in 12 years. That's pathetic and you CANNOT defend it.






It's obvious that you haven't even read what I have posted because if you did then you wouldn't have come up with the conclusion that "If we would have listened to you for the last 12 years, then we would have won more than 2 tournament games in 12 years." Yea that makes no sense at all. The lack of education from the haters on this board is amazing.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 9, 2022, 11:00 PM

When the Tigers win, regardless of the sport I pull for the team. If they don’t win I don’t assume that I know more than the coaching staff. Sure, sometimes I have questions about a certain play or call or someone’s performance but that is someone else’s job to evaluate and I trust that process.

My job is to pull for the Tigers…and I do!

Go Tigers!

PS: I know some of you will say this means that I’m willing to settle for less but I have never, ever felt that any particular group of young athletes owed me anything. I always believed that I owed them my support.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 7:56 PM

cu45usc0® said:

When the Tigers win, regardless of the sport I pull for the team. If they don’t win I don’t assume that I know more than the coaching staff. Sure, sometimes I have questions about a certain play or call or someone’s performance but that is someone else’s job to evaluate and I trust that process.

My job is to pull for the Tigers…and I do!

Go Tigers!

PS: I know some of you will say this means that I’m willing to settle for less but I have never, ever felt that any particular group of young athletes owed me anything. I always believed that I owed them my support.





Thank you spoken from a True Fan.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 9, 2022, 11:32 PM

We burn couches?

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 8:41 AM

What happens if Coach Brownell beats UNC in Chapel Hill a second time?

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 8:55 AM


What happens if Coach Brownell beats UNC in Chapel Hill a second time?




We burn books!?

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 11:38 AM [ in reply to Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins..... ]

It snows in Hell?

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Well we already know what happens when they lose


Dec 10, 2022, 8:51 AM

i.e. win 2 tournament games in 12 years and finish in the bottom half of the conference more often than not: brad gets a big pay raise.

I too would love to see what happens when the basketball team wins. Maybe brad will grow wings and fly up to heaven. Maybe he’ll sprout horns out of his head and grow a tail. Or maybe he’ll just keep getting fatter and wearing track pants and a scowl, complaining about money and fan support.

We just don’t know.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 10:44 AM

What a stupid thing to write.

Do you think the team is on a positive trajectory where they will all of sudden in year 13 start finishing in the top half of the ACC regularly?

and make the NCAA tournament regularly?

or is this another year with decent play and frustrating losses and no post season play.

and have you seen how few people are at the games?

because the fans are NOT supporting the coach and are already voting with their feet.

Most fans want something to be excited about...

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8-2 and undefeated at home


Dec 10, 2022, 11:35 AM

You just stay home. We don't need your negativity. And you have followed Clemson basketball, you know that Clemson "fans" don't show up until the ACC games begin so they can pull for the visitor. When Duke and North Carolina come to town, orange turns to blue. That sucks.

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Dec 10, 2022, 7:58 PM [ in reply to Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins..... ]

castaway® said:

What a stupid thing to write.

Do you think the team is on a positive trajectory where they will all of sudden in year 13 start finishing in the top half of the ACC regularly?

and make the NCAA tournament regularly?

or is this another year with decent play and frustrating losses and no post season play.

and have you seen how few people are at the games?

because the fans are NOT supporting the coach and are already voting with their feet.

Most fans want something to be excited about...





Stupid, Not even close to the truth. You being a negative person projecting negative towards the team is a fact.

All the hate towards BB and many try to put him up against past Clemson coaches and when they do they avoid the simple facts of winning percentages against ACC teams. Brad wins.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 10:46 AM

Pigs finally learn to fly...

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 8:27 PM

slwcu79 said:

Pigs finally learn to fly...





Here is proof pigs do fly https://abcnews.go.com/US/proof-pigs-fly/story?id=27222136

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Dec 10, 2022, 8:28 PM [ in reply to Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins..... ]

slwcu79 said:

Pigs finally learn to fly...





Here is proof pigs do fly https://abcnews.go.com/US/proof-pigs-fly/story?id=27222136

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 11:30 AM

I posted about Brad yesterday. The point you’re making about his overall success can’t be argued against. But there’s a reason we’ve wanted him gone for a while now, and it’s because of his consistent ability to crash and burn and not reach the NCAA tournament. He’s done it a couple of times, but with the teams we’ve had especially with Blossomgame, McDaniels, Simms, Hall and more, we should have done more. I believe we could have with a different coach. But we’ll see how we do in ACC, that’s what it always boils down to.

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Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 10, 2022, 9:16 PM

ROYBus10 said:

I posted about Brad yesterday. The point you’re making about his overall success can’t be argued against. But there’s a reason we’ve wanted him gone for a while now, and it’s because of his consistent ability to crash and burn and not reach the NCAA tournament. He’s done it a couple of times, but with the teams we’ve had especially with Blossomgame, McDaniels, Simms, Hall and more, we should have done more. I believe we could have with a different coach. But we’ll see how we do in ACC, that’s what it always boils down to.




This has to be the best reply from the side that would rather Brad be gone. One question you said you believe that more would have been done with a different coach. If there was a different coach then I am sure the players that Brad recruited might not be here with that coach. Different players different results so I think it's not a valid point.

I do understand what you are saying and you have valid points on his shortcomings . Brad has dropped the ball on multiple years with some coaching blunders. I've stated that in past posts. I've also stated that he needs to step up the recruiting game and land some 5 star and more 4 star recruits. I'm not sure if he's ever landed a 5 star at all? He is in the ACC and landing 5 star should happen. I have no issues with listing what I think he needs to improve on.

There are people on this board that do root against Clemson just for the fact that they want Brad gone. That is not a true fan in my opinion.

If Brad was let go I can honestly say that Clemson will still be my 2nd favorite BB team in college next to UNCW. People rooting against Clemson to have Brad gone to me prove they are not fans of Clemson BB.

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Shut down the biggest basketball parking lot


Dec 10, 2022, 11:36 AM

During the season so Dabo can have bricks and trees. That's a great idea to boost basketball attendance.

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What do you Lunatic Fringe people want???


Dec 10, 2022, 11:38 AM

Check out the history of Clemson basketball and you will see CBB has exceeded every coach in program history. Clemson Grit.

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Re: What do you Lunatic Fringe people want???


Dec 10, 2022, 12:39 PM

So maybe that points out coaching really has been the problem all along...

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Re: What do you Lunatic Fringe people want???


Dec 10, 2022, 5:17 PM [ in reply to What do you Lunatic Fringe people want??? ]

He’s exceeded them by a single metric that doesn’t mean what you think it does. He performs worse against better teams. He has less top 25 victories. He loses more to sub 200 teams. Of our last 5 coaches Larry Shyatt is the only one the there is any legitimate argument that Brownell is actually superior and that is much closer than you’d ever actually realize.

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1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Re: What do you Lunatic Fringe people want???


Dec 10, 2022, 8:01 PM

viztiz® said:

He’s exceeded them by a single metric that doesn’t mean what you think it does. He performs worse against better teams. He has less top 25 victories. He loses more to sub 200 teams. Of our last 5 coaches Larry Shyatt is the only one the there is any legitimate argument that Brownell is actually superior and that is much closer than you’d ever actually realize.





So Brad has the highest winning percentage of all Clemson BB team coaches against the ACC. Yea that means nothing right?

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Dec 10, 2022, 9:23 PM

Want to guess who the only coach to be in a 15 team league with unbalanced scheduling which has yielded the lowest average RPI per opponent in conference play since the advent of the 64 team ncaa field? And it is probably the lowest since the creation of the conference but I’ve not bothered to try and go back that far.

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Jstone D329 - “ It’s ok to want a coaching change”
Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Being Average is not being Clemson Strong


Dec 10, 2022, 9:03 PM [ in reply to Re: What do you Lunatic Fringe people want??? ]

BB has been given the opportunity to take this team to the next level and as failed. Matter of fact, he has more than an opportunity and not been successful. Time to move on!

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Dec 10, 2022, 2:16 PM

Hey bud, I’ve always liked BB, but trying to compare what the ACC has been like to what Bill Foster/ Cliff Ellis had to face (home and aways with Duke, UNC, great GT teams, Maryland, UVA, NC State, and WF) is not fair to former coaches. It was a gauntlet, and a 7-9 team in the league back then was a solid team nationally. ACC basketball in the 70’s, 80’s, and even 90’s was the best top to bottom.

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Dec 10, 2022, 9:01 PM

idigtigs said:

Hey bud, I’ve always liked BB, but trying to compare what the ACC has been like to what Bill Foster/ Cliff Ellis had to face (home and aways with Duke, UNC, great GT teams, Maryland, UVA, NC State, and WF) is not fair to former coaches. It was a gauntlet, and a 7-9 team in the league back then was a solid team nationally. ACC basketball in the 70’s, 80’s, and even 90’s was the best top to bottom.





I'm not trying to compare him with past coaches. In reality many here do that, saying he's not as good as this coach or that coach. All I've stated was he has the best winning percentage of all Clemson coaches against ACC teams. With that said I say why all the hate on him, he's the only coach to win at UNC, he has the best winning percentage against all ACC teams who has coached for Clemson. That's all that I am saying.

I agree with you about trying to compare with other coaches in different decades it makes no sense. Just like it makes no sense when the people hating on BB chose to avoid facts that make there points invalid.

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Hi Ms. Keller. Serious question...


Dec 10, 2022, 7:58 PM

How many handles do you have?

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Re: Hi Ms. Keller. Serious question...


Dec 10, 2022, 8:05 PM

This is viztiz right? No it's nctigs, it's got to be, no wait it's Clemson mountaineers right? No it can't be Clemson mountaineers that guy actually makes sense and has knowledge which can't be said for yourself. So it's got to be nctigs, How's it going? I guess you are not posting under that name for a minute now, why is that?

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It just seems odd that you are putting in a ton of effort


Dec 10, 2022, 8:36 PM

Supporting your boy on tiger net seeing how you are just an UNCW fan.

Do you go on Pack Pride calling out people that complain about Kevin Keatts?

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Re: It just seems odd that you are putting in a ton of effort


Dec 10, 2022, 8:54 PM

sophie said:

Supporting your boy on tiger net seeing how you are just an UNCW fan.

Do you go on Pack Pride calling out people that complain about Kevin Keatts?




Nope I never said I was JUST an UNCW fan. I said I am a Clemson fan as well just not when playing UNCW. Clemson my 2nd favorite college basketball team. Big difference. As per your question: Do you go on Pack Pride calling out people that complain about Kevin Keatts? No I don't do that. I am not a Keatts fan so nice try. I am a Takayo Siddle fan.

Any other attempts at humor you want to make?

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Dec 10, 2022, 10:19 PM

Wellness check on rambis007? He isn’t as disillusioned as most of us and might be taking this pretty hard.

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1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Re: What happens when Clemson Basketball wins.....


Dec 11, 2022, 5:44 AM

viztiz® said:

Wellness check on rambis007? He isn’t as disillusioned as most of us and might be taking this pretty hard.





It's a bad loss that's it. So as I see every loss Clemson has will be under a microscope x 100.

Wellness: Check

Rambis: Not the Judge check

disillusioned: If you think so.

viztiz® or is that nctigs

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