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Oh David Hale SMH


Nov 11, 2022, 12:49 PM

He was just on Sirius XM and if he hasn’t already gotten his name permanently removed from Dabo’s Christmas card list this interview will do it. I paraphrase; but he said that he doesn’t think that Dabo will make any changes in the offseason because he always wants to be smarter than everyone else, and that the reason people don’t like Dabo is because he can’t put himself in other people’s shoes and didn’t treat people well when he was on top. It seemed a but personal and unprofessional to be honest with you; but, more importantly, a guy in the media publicly admitted that they don’t like Dabo.

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I heard it as well. Just posted.


Nov 11, 2022, 12:52 PM

David minced no words but I think it was what a lot of people think-right?

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I guess I really don't understand this comment


Nov 11, 2022, 12:56 PM

"Dabo is because he can’t put himself in other people’s shoes" who's shoes is he talking about because Dabo is been in more shoes over the course of his life than most people I know...... I can see why some people might not like Dabo but don't understand that angle at all....

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The football writers’ shoes; they’re clearly the only ones


Nov 11, 2022, 12:59 PM

That matter. He was specifically referring to Dabo “calling people idiots” for questioning DJ.

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Re: The football writers’ shoes; they’re clearly the only ones


Nov 11, 2022, 1:23 PM

Well, at the moment, it looks like Dabo was a bit hasty on attacking people who questioned DJ. That comment probably could've waited for the season to play out.

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Lucky Johnson


That's Dabo being Dabo. He is ALWAYS publicly optimistic


Nov 11, 2022, 2:40 PM

about players and the program.

He's the 2nd winningest coach in America since being hired in 2009. He's said a lot of "controversial" things, but what's the problem with that when he's built the program he has? Maybe if he starts failing as a head coach then we can rag him about standing up fir his guys?

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Re: The football writers’ shoes; they’re clearly the only ones


Nov 11, 2022, 1:33 PM

Dabo is the only one not questioning DJ, at least the majority has. He’s been looking more like he did in 2021. Most thought we were stuck then because we didn’t have another option. This year we did but …

I can’t believe David said that on national radio though?

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Those who can, coach. Those who can’t, work for ESPN. ***


Nov 11, 2022, 1:51 PM



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Nobody will be fired.


Nov 11, 2022, 12:56 PM

And it has nothing to do with Dabo wanting to be "smarter than everyone".

He's fired his hires before and will do it again, if needed. Short of the wheels completely falling off and losing the rest of the games, nobody is going anywhere. Why should they?

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Re: Nobody will be fired.


Nov 11, 2022, 2:11 PM

Because they are completely unfit to be in the positions they are in? Do you truly believe that Streeter, Richardson, & Spiller have done anything (coaching wise) that warrants running the offense at a T5 program in college?

They were terrible hires and everyone without orange colored glasses can see that.

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What are you basing that on?


Nov 11, 2022, 2:36 PM

The performance of the team over 1.7 years, where the QB was completed dysfunctional in one season, rose to mediocre in another 6 games, then fell back to mediocre?

Hard to make ANYTHING work when the QB is struggling so badly. Streeter can't call plays when the QB can only run 30% of them.

How has Richardson warranted a firing?

And CJ? What's the best performing group on the offense?

The only judgements that can be made on Streeter is he's somehow 9-1 as OC, with a below average QB.

My glasses are perfectly clear. There's nothing to warrant any firings, although me personally I'd like to new blood in S&C.

Are you one of those dudes who says heads should roll if we 13-1, win a NY6 bowl, and finish in the top 10? ... despite restrictions at the most important position on the field? Surely not?

Nobody is going to get fired.

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I realize we have a lack of data, but WR coaching


Nov 11, 2022, 3:02 PM

seems like it has been really bad the last two years.

Bad blocking, bad routes, bad hands..... things that worse players could do better.

Also, recruiting has slacked off from what it was despite the huge pedigree.

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Re: I realize we have a lack of data, but WR coaching


Nov 11, 2022, 3:10 PM

I don't buy the recruiting bit. You hit on some kids and others you have to work with. WR coaching may have some merit although again with hit and miss recruiting which all programs have. For instance one highly regarded slot receiver has been out for two years now with injury. A second was injured last year and must be struggling some as he isn't in the lineup much. If I had my guess maybe receivers coach but outside that I don't see many changes either.

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I've Saud before.. we could start (5) Coope Kupps


Nov 11, 2022, 3:33 PM

But we still need someone who can't reliably get them the ball. Until we fix that, there's no way to judge WRs under DJ. Under Trevor and the same WR coach we have now, Grisham led us to the most productive receiving group in Clemson history.

That's what I use to say we seem to have a good coach, but we need a QB who can deliver the ball. I maintain - put Trevor, Deshaun, or heck Stetson Bennett or Sam Hartman is our offense today, and a plethora of "concerns" (8-1, #10?) go away.

We have (5) top 10 receivers and a a top 60. That's among every WR coming out of the respective recruiting classes. I don't know of Ngata has a few plays left, but Collins, Williams, and Randle can be studs when someone can reliably get them the ball. EJ Williams still has great skills as well, but he seems to be taking time to get back to form after injury. And then too, he was in 1:1 coverage the other night for a perfect opportunity to make a play - except for the fact the QB didn't even get it in the same area code.

Spector has 13 catches so far, and may end up with significant time before its all said and done. Taylor is coming off injury but showed flashes last year. Stellato is supposed to have national caliber talent, but he's hurt too.

Am I missing anyone? These guys aren't chopped liver. They are very talented players who just need more opportunities to catch the ball. When almost half of our passes have to be force fed on short routes to RBs and TEs, then you know there's a valid concern with the QBs capability to reliability to get it downfield.

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The god #### Saudis got nothin' to do with it - Buford T.


Nov 11, 2022, 4:55 PM



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"They talk most who have the least to say." - Matthew Prior 1664-1721


Lol IKR. A Saudi could type better than me, that's for sure.


Nov 11, 2022, 7:10 PM

Screw proofreading. Lol.

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Re: What are you basing that on?


Nov 11, 2022, 3:20 PM

And who do you think is tasked with developing DJ? I’ll give you a hint, his initials are BS. He’s a bad coach. Point blank.

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You can't get water out of a stone young man.


Nov 11, 2022, 3:42 PM

DJ had the same QB coach when he was breaking records in 2020, and the same coach actually polished that turd of 2021 for 6 games this year. I mean, DJ is not the most gifted QB we've had, but he can be much better.

The guy has been taught and reinforced for evert nuanc of the game, and he even has a personal psychologist. DJs is Deshaun or Trevor, but he can play like he did against Wake, for example. His problem, that has crept back in, is between his ears. It's not a lack of intelligence, it's a lack of mental fortitude. Some guys have and some don't, but you can't force it into anyone. All you can do is give him all the resources possible. They have to take the next step.

Brandon isn't a psychologist. DJ has one of those. Brandon is a proven commodity and bright offensive mind with 20 years of coaching offense along with almost 4 years of OC experience.

What else can you do? Again, insert Deshaun, Trevor, or even Stetson Bennett or Sam Hartman, and the offense takes off.

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Streeter can’t get an OC pass on his QB being


Nov 11, 2022, 3:21 PM

Incapable. He is the one coach in charge of that. He’s had access to the kid for 3 off-seasons and should have better technique than when he got here. If not, one of the QBs on the roster should have better technique than when they got here. If none do, then he’s failed his positional responsibilities. He’s also been the recruiting coordinator. So there are a lot of avenues to accountability that lead to Streeter.

Grisham is due. If he’s not gone then we’re in trouble. Dabo needs that position to outperform our peer institutions. Its a core tenant of our offense (because its like 30% of our run game too).

I don't think any other first-year coaches get fired even if they are underperforming. Dabo is conscious of what that means for their families and thinks everything n be fixed.

Spiller probably won’t ever be fired. I worry there. I think he will be the hill that Dabo dies on if he doesn’t work out. I love having him on staff, but i think he needs to be surrounded with more experience to become successful. Every position coach can’t be <3 years experience in D1.

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I disagree with all of that.


Nov 11, 2022, 3:59 PM

Everything you mentioned is a result of a QB who has now regressed for a 2nd time. DJ has a strong arm and some skills, but his issue is between the ears. A coach can show a player every single important thing about his position, maybe you've noticed but there are literally 100's of 4 and 5 star kids who are just not capable of putting it all together.

DJ had been given every single resource. He's been taught (over and over) every nuance to play the position, and he even has weekly sessions with a psychologist.

What else can you do? DJ wss doing better, but now it appears he's back to being his own worst enemy again. Some things can't be fixed by a coach. Sometimes a player is just what you see.

It's lazy to want to fire (9-1 in spite of s challenging QB) Streeter. Until we fix the root cause, nothing would change. There are no magic schemes or playcalls that can fix a mentally broken player. But like I've been saying, insert Deshaun, Trevor, or even Stetson Bennett or Sam Hartman, and the offense explodes.

So again, Streeter won't be fired. No reason.

Grisham was in charge of most prolific receiving season in program history. It's not his fault the QB can't reliably throw passes.

The RBs are the best performing group on the offense. Why in the world would we need to fire him?

Bottom line is - NOBODY IS GETTING FIRED NOR SHOULD THEY. We can reasonably go 13-1 and win a NY6 bowl to finish in the top 10. Do this despite the elephant in the room, and it becomes really silly to suggest heads should roll.

We need a QB. Gaining elite status again depends on that. Not gutting a good staff.

Funny thing is, there's an outside shot at making the playoffs,

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The wheels have fallen off the offense***


Nov 12, 2022, 12:10 PM



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Re: I heard it as well. Just posted.


Nov 11, 2022, 3:51 PM

Hal's a Leftist hack masquerading as a sports journalist.

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That idiot is still mad because Dabo wore a “Football Matters” shirt to the pool.


Nov 11, 2022, 12:54 PM

Hale is a worthless scumbag.

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Says way more about David Hale than it does Dabo.


Nov 11, 2022, 12:54 PM

I would guess that Dabo Swinney does more for others in any given day than David Hale does in a year. And I don’t just mean “gives money” because obviously that’s not fair. I mean gives his time and shows caring. Thinks of others and makes sure his players do too.

I don’t know much about Hale but hard not to think comments like that (and I didn’t hear the interview so going just on your summary) are indicative of having an ax to grind.

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I think Hale is the one who brought up the “C” word


Nov 11, 2022, 12:58 PM

a few years ago in a press conference. He knew that would pi$$ Dabo off and that was his goal. If he wants to be treated better, respect for CDS would be a good place to start.

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He's right about Dabo probably not making any staff changes


Nov 11, 2022, 12:58 PM

after the season.

However, the reason isn't because Dabo is a bad person or lacks empathy. In fact, Dabo is a great guy and has a big heart.

The reason Dabo won't make any changes after the season is because he's fiercely loyal and also very stubborn. Those attributes, which have certainly contributed to his success, are also part of why he might not be the fastest to adapt when things aren't going as well.

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Cobbox on Brad Brownell: “His only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Yeah, and there's nothing to warrant any firings.


Nov 11, 2022, 2:46 PM

Now, basketball? Now there's solid reason for a firing. This season is your last chance, Mrs. B.

Your husband is an awesome dude and all of us wish he could succeed. Nobody wants Brad to fail, but one saving grace from that, in addition to new blood, would be that your trolling would disappear with the Brownell family moving truck.

Good luck, Mrs. B. I hope we can win, I really do. Won't be sad if you're gone though.

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Losers can’t stand winners.


Nov 11, 2022, 1:30 PM

That should pretty much sum up Hale’s problem.

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Re: Oh David Hale SMH


Nov 11, 2022, 1:35 PM

I really want someone to provide a single ####### shred of evidence that Dabo treats people like ####, people don’t like Dabo because he won’t ####### bow to them. #### pisses me off more then anything Saban isn’t all rainbows and ####### sunshine but nobody attacks him. These reporters aren’t anything besides egotistical dirt bags #### em

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BOOM....and there you have it nailed! Screw the b*stards!***


Nov 11, 2022, 3:54 PM



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Re: Oh David Hale SMH


Nov 11, 2022, 1:45 PM

Listening to David Hales opinion is like listening to a disgruntled employees opinion of a place they got fired from. Even if they make some good points, they have an agenda. Dabo has called Hale out on more than one occasion and rightfully so.

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Super post, Gooch.***


Nov 11, 2022, 2:01 PM



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Fantastic!!


Nov 11, 2022, 2:05 PM

You saw my post I feel so special. I thought I was one of the 97 or so people you were afraid of and are ignoring like a little beeeech.

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Nah, I keep you visible for when I want to troll your


Nov 11, 2022, 2:23 PM

miserable old ###.

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"miserable old ###"...


Nov 11, 2022, 2:59 PM

Is that anything like saying, "only miserable boo-holes TD people", while you're by (miles and miles) the site's most prolific TDer? I mean nobody is even close. And if that doesn't reek of "miserable" on a message board, then what does?

You miserable old #### and boo-hole you.

I tried to be reasonable with you, but you're an insufferable human being.

Carry on, TD Queen.

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$ 1000 bet Stan.


Nov 11, 2022, 3:06 PM

Free money if you are who you say you are. But we both know you won’t take the bet because we both know you are, in fact, the Stanley.

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Calling people Stan doesn't change the fact you've voted for yourself THOUSANDS of times.


Nov 11, 2022, 4:10 PM

You werent using yhe same IP address on any of the 3 self-vote scoks you were cold busted and banned for either.

You have some issues, TD Queen. And some obviously mentally tormenting ghost named Stan isn't one of them.

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Poor AND scared, lol.


Nov 11, 2022, 4:29 PM

Got it. Why don’t you, at least, pay your dues? Tell ya what, I’ll kick in half for your dues since you don’t want to lose this Scok by taking a bet you know you can’t win. Deal?

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Are you 12 or just mentally stunted?


Nov 11, 2022, 7:09 PM

I clearly asked the Mods to do what you asked. I'm neither poor nor scared, child.

I ACCEPT YOUR WAGER. Please also feel free to ask the mods to check IPs, like I did.

You're not making any sense, while acting like the TDing teenage girl you are.

Look, TD Queen, it's PERFECTLY obvious you're triggered. You got straight up busted using 3 different handles to vote for yourself, and most everyone knows you got caught and were banned because of it. The board just laughs at you.

Thing is, other than 11k TDs and oddly feeling a sense of accomplishment, you're STILL using multiple self-vote usernames, simply because you're painfully insecure and immature.

I pity you. I really do. What kind of alleged grown man spends hours a day clicking thumbs down for "coot trolls" and thumbs up yourself rying to make yourself feel wanted. THAT'S NOT MENTALLY STABLE.

Poor guy.. tormented by figments of your imagination.

Good luck, TD Queen. Let me know when you'll pay me my money.

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TLDR. T-mail the mods and copy me. Maybe the 10th time I’ve stated.


Nov 11, 2022, 8:03 PM

You’re a poor little adult-child pretending like people don’t know, even anonymously on the net, what a tool you are.



Pay your dues, Scok-boy.

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He doesn't ignore. He just TDs everything.


Nov 11, 2022, 2:50 PM

Like you said, a juvenile beeech for sure. Most insecure vote-for-self poster on the board. If he's not TDing "coot trolls", aka "descent" Tiger fans, then he's busy with 3 other handles TUing himself.

He actually thinks people don't know it. LOL!

Watch the beeech TD this is 5...4...3....

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Put your money where your mouth is, Stanley


Nov 11, 2022, 3:10 PM

or are you the scared little Beeeech???

1k to prove contact with the mods to check your IP. If you aren’t the same poster as PeppaTiger, SavageTiger, CourageousTiger, etc, I’ll pay you 1k, Stanley.

STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY
STANLEY

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Dear Mods, please show the TD Queen my IP.


Nov 11, 2022, 4:21 PM

And please compare it to any of the IPs the TD Queen is referring to.. these are obviously posters who have mentally damaged the fragile bass turd.

I do wonder, TD Queen / Self-vote King, what did these nasty anonymous posters do to you? Were they also "coot trolls" like the "descent" Tiger fans you've targeted with 11k TDs?

11k TDs!! There's something wrong with you, and it's not just being miserable with low self-esteem.

Watch out for Stanley! Show me on your Barbie doll where he poked you, TD Queen.

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Lol,


Nov 11, 2022, 4:32 PM

Scared little baby Stanley. T-mail the mods and copy me.

You’ve sent me enough T-mails blubbering so I know you know how to use it, ?

I’m almost embarrassed for you.

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Fight, fight, fight, fight


Nov 11, 2022, 4:37 PM

:)

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What person with nothing to hide


Nov 11, 2022, 4:42 PM

wouldn’t take the bet, no?


Fighting the special and elderly isn’t any fun. They tend to shat themselves in the throws.

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I tmailed bmeist and copied you.


Nov 11, 2022, 7:23 PM

And by the way, TD Queen, I'll bet you another grand I'm younger, smarter, stronger, and better looking than you.

I assume you'll have my $1k st the game tomorrow? Let me know where you'd like to meet, you know, since I'm so "scared" and all. Hope another $1k you'll have some lame excuse.

$1k, my name isn't Sta
$1k, I'm younger, smarter, stronger, and better looking than you.
$1k, you'll have an excuse for not meeting tomorrow and pay me my money.

Balls in your court, TD Queen. Don't be "scared". Put your money where your piehole is.

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I’ll take that bet, Stan.


Nov 12, 2022, 12:07 PM

Bring your son too. He needs to learn what a creep his poor father is.

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By the way you bizarre bass turd..


Nov 11, 2022, 7:31 PM

I looked in my tmail history.. looks to me I tmailed you ONE TIME, because it was evident you were TD queening every one of my posts. ONE TIME! Are you sure you're not confusing me with stan?

Lol, see you at the game tomorrow. I'll be with my son, but let me know where you'll be and we'll swing by to collect my $2k. It will be $3k when you state your excuse, in which case you can cashapp me.

Cool, beeeech?

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Re: By the way you bizarre bass turd..


Nov 12, 2022, 12:08 PM

Must be sad being a shameless liar. ? ?

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I went back and transcribed his words from the interview


Nov 11, 2022, 2:02 PM

So that you can judge for yourself

About off season changes:
“If Dabo thinks they’re falling behind I think he thinks they just need to work harder at what they’re doing he’s so sold on his own belief system, and I’m not here to criticize him on that because he’s won more games than I ever could, every move he made this offseason was about thumbing his nose at popular opinion and saying I know better.”

About why people don’t like him:

“This has I think gotten a little worse with Dabo, the more people push back the more he pushes back, I think Dabo does not necessarily do a great job of ever putting himself in someone else’s shoes, and so the criticism he gets he takes very personally; and I think that’s part of it. You look at the DJ situation, and look he played pretty well for the first part of the year, and I think that was surprising to a lot of people and a lot of people had questions and those questions were 1000% Justified; but after he plays 5 or 6 good games Dabo is out there saying y’all idiots who wanted him benched who questioned the quarterback are all so dumb, and then he goes out and benches the quarterback in back to back games. This is sort of the problem that is created when you always wanna act like you know something more than everybody else, a lot if times he probably does, and Dabo’s whole career to some extent is based on him proving people wrong more than any other coach in college football he has probably been doubted over the course of his career. I get it I get where it comes from but it helps to have some friends when things aren’t going your way and Dabo did not do a good job of playing nice when he thought he had the upper hand I’ll put it that way”

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Re: I went back and transcribed his words from the interview


Nov 11, 2022, 2:52 PM

He’s just another Finebum wannabe. Creating controversy is what they try to do. Anyone who has followed Dabo closely knows his motives are pure and guys like this just can’t stand to see a good guy win.

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