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Here is an example of the kind of things ESPN does that
Dec 20, 2017, 6:16 PM
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really irritates me.
If you look at our list of signees on ESPN, you will correctly see 15 players listed. However, if you look at the summary of the list above the players names, the summary STILL only lists 14 players, missing our latest 5 star signee KJ Henry. May seem like nothing, but every UGa and Alabama signee was immediately updated on the list, and their ranking in the ESPN recruiting ranking was immediately adjusted. We are still sitting at # 9, with 14 signees listed instead of 15, two hours after Henry signed. When they eventually get around to adding him to the list, we are likely 6th in the country.
Yeah, it doesn't change anything in the long run, but the bias to the SEC is just so tiring.
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Well, while I was typing they corrected the list to 15, but
Dec 20, 2017, 6:20 PM
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I find it impossible to believe we did not move from 9th by adding the # 5 player in the nation.
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But if we had added two 4 stars and three 3 stars we would have moved up.
Dec 20, 2017, 6:24 PM
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They way they rank quantity over quality is just stupid. Every recent year we have been in the top 5 in average star rating yet we end up 8-15 bc of the low attrition.
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Re: Well, while I was typing they corrected the list to 15, but
Dec 20, 2017, 6:30 PM
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They changed their minds on his talent and just now decided he was overrated and dropped him out of the top 300 and made him a 1*.
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Re: Well, while I was typing they corrected the list to 15, but
Dec 20, 2017, 6:31 PM
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They aren’t reporting sports news, they’re reselling the product that they already bought, namely the SEC. They just look stupid and dishonest for trying to convince everyone that the Mustang that they bought is a Formula 1 car.
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Re: Here is an example of the kind of things ESPN does that
Dec 20, 2017, 6:32 PM
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Let them flounder in their star bias......the ACC will still beat their(sec) hineys in head to head matches.....and I guess our star power will always be lower than the theirs...... It's a matter of the ESPN ...FINEBUMB PERSPECTIVE... MAYBE THE ACC NEEDS A TV STATION TO ASSIST IN OUR PUBLICITY OF STAR POWER RATIO TO WINNING..... ITS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPE OF MEDIA BIAS....BUT PAID FOR BY SEC...
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Re: Here is an example of the kind of things ESPN does that
Dec 20, 2017, 6:55 PM
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Some of you will really find displeasure in anything. Yeah, ESPN is trying to bury the Clemson signing class so hard that they showed the Henry commitment on tv today, have an article on their front page for the Cartman commit, and have another article on the front page titled "Georgia, Clemson big early signing day winners."
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Well, 3.5 hours after Henry signed we
Dec 20, 2017, 8:06 PM
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are finally upgraded from 9th to 5th. Why did it take 3.5 hours, when everyone else was getting real time upgrades in their ranking. My first post suggested we move from 9th to 6th. I was close, but why the delay by ESPN?
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Re: Well, 3.5 hours after Henry signed we
Dec 20, 2017, 8:10 PM
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Who knows? I'm sure it could be a lot of reasons beyond "let's delay this to hurt Clemson."
Let's pretend for one moment that it was on purpose. What would ESPN have to gain by that? If you're someone who says "SEC bias" then how does that help the SEC exactly? Is that going to help SEC schools get more recruits in the future, or win more games? Is delaying that by a few hours going to have sponsors pay ESPN more? Is Clemson going to lose any recruits because they looked earlier and say Clemson was 9th instead of 5th?
And if all of that was on purpose, why have two front page articles related to Clemson's success today?
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Re: Well, 3.5 hours after Henry signed we
Dec 20, 2017, 8:44 PM
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You make way too much sense for these tin foil hat goons.
They didn’t immediately update some other teams either. I guess he didn’t mention that because it doesn’t match his theory.
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You obviously didn't understand my original post. It is the
Dec 20, 2017, 8:54 PM
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uneven attention given to SEC schools, no so much specifically against Clemson. My original posts mentioned the real time adjustment for Alabama and Georgias classes when they received a 5 star commitments, I mean within minutes after the signing happened. Ours took almost 4 hours.
If you deny the SEC bias at ESPN, then you are just not paying attention.
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Re: You obviously didn't understand my original post. It is the
Dec 20, 2017, 9:45 PM
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The bias is only there if you are wanting to see it IMO. I've seen Clemson get a ton of love the past few years, FSU was one of the most hyped teams in the preseason, the real USC was as well, and Ohio State always gets a ton also. It's just that people shout SEC bias whenever an SEC team gets the same sort of attention.
I can't speak for whether all 14 SEC teams were updated right away today as you say, or the reason for why Henry wasn't added right away. But as I said in another post, let's say you're right. What does ESPN have to gain out of holding off on adding Henry right away? Is there a potential future recruit considering Clemson sitting around thinking "man I was going to pick Clemson if they had a top 5 class, but I saw they were only 9th so forget that."
Also as I said above, if they were biased to the SEC only, then why include the headline of Georgia and Clemson being big winners today? Couldn't they have easily used Georgia and Alabama instead?
Why come to gameday at Clemson so many times recently? Why spend all the money and resources in showing the complete Clemson entrance before the Georgia and FSU games a few years ago? Why show any of the Clemson commit announcements today if they were wanting to hide them or whatever? Surely ESPN could have figured out Henry was pretty much a Clemson lock just like everyone else and not bothered to show him announce if they were wanting to delay letting the rest of the country know about it.
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Re: Well, 3.5 hours after Henry signed we
Dec 20, 2017, 8:19 PM
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This is a ridiculous post... ESPN is not attempting, in any way, to harm Clemson. Maybe the unpaid intern was overworked at the sports network and couldn’t keep up. Or maybe they were 3 hours late and who cares?
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Dude, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It is
Dec 20, 2017, 8:58 PM
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SEC bias, we just happen to be the program it affected today.
That has been the theme in all of my posts on this issue.
Man, I've been on this board for 20 years, 15 under my current handle. I seldom post anymore because people would rather be smart ##### than make an intelligent comment.
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Re: Dude, reading comprehension is not your strong suit. It is
Dec 20, 2017, 9:00 PM
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Don’t take it personal. They either didnt read your original post, or just waiting to slam someone. There are plenty that would just rather slam other’s opinions instead of having a common sense opinion themselves
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You mean like when players commit to us during the summer
Dec 20, 2017, 8:25 PM
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when nobody is playing football and their ranking drops just all of a sudden?
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Re: You mean like when players commit to us during the summer
Dec 20, 2017, 8:36 PM
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> when nobody is playing football and their ranking > drops just all of a sudden?
That's not a conspiracy, it's called sensationalizing. "#1 recruit in the country" creates drama, and everybody knew Lawrence wasn't playing the game...Clemson guys tend to go "All-In" and stay firm, and while that's great for us, it's not interesting to anybody else.
But it's drama attracts clicks, and clicks are the name of the recruiting-reporting game. Anybody with eyes can tell you that unless it's a 7-on-7 the stats and relative abilities of Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields aren't even close. But it attracts a lot more clicks to keep the undecided player - in this case, Fields - rated at #1 so they seized on those 7-on-7's at The Opening (where Lawrence did OK, but Fields dominated) and used that as a pretext to elevate Fields above Lawrence.
I doubt even the worst recruitnik shill really believes that, though. Game tape doesn't lie. Lawrence isn't just the best QB prospect in 2018, he might be the best in the last 20 years. If he turns out like he looks...well. Won't go there. Not yet.
So...opportunistic journalism? Sure. A conspiracy? Not really, except in the sense they're trying to keep interest drummed up.
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