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What is the latest w Mark Packer?


Aug 18, 2021, 9:01 AM

I havent been able to watch or seen anything here lately. I hope he is well

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Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 9:02 AM



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Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 9:24 AM

WAIT, YOU MEAN HE SOMEHOW SURVIVED THE DREADED.

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Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 10:52 AM

He said it was no joke and that there was one night in the ER that he thought he was going on a vent. He lost 20 lbs, says 3 weeks later he still can’t walk up the stairs without getting winded, and hasn’t regained his strength. He said he thanks god that he was vaccinated. I know you’re trying to be cute but why don’t you find out what he has to say first.

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Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 11:06 AM

And guess what he was overweight which is a major factor in Covid. Why don’t you wake up and realize that healthy people don’t have issues with Covid. Young people don’t have issues with Covid. It is serious but it is not extremely deadly the way you have been brainwashed and people have been brainwashed to believe. Vaccinated or unvaccinated if you are young or middle-aged and relatively healthy you have very little to nothing to worry about.

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Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 11:16 AM

Uh Oh here comes 97 YouTube videos from a bunch of random people.

How do you know you are the biggest loser poster on Tnet? Because the one person following you is the board moderator. B-meist is following you, and yours is the only non-internal tnet account he’s following, presumably because he knows at any minute you’re gonna post some ridiculous sheet that’s gonna need to be deleted or moved to the right board.

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I love people like you.


Aug 18, 2021, 12:49 PM

Do you think you are cute and smart, but you are not.

You act like someone on YouTube is not an expert. Every major news network has their videos on YouTube. YouTube has a ton of extremely legitimate independent journalists and scientists that have podcasts such as Glenn Greenwald and Matt Taibbi. Brett Weinstein, Eric Weinstein, Sam Harris, John McWhorter, Jordan Peterson, Thomas Sowell, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

More people have become informed by Joe Rogan and the plethora of first class experts he has on his show than anything else Around today. He has more viewers on his videos than Fox, MS NBC, C NBC, CNN, etc. combined!

If YouTube did not have so many experts that were making an impact people like you and the left would not be in favor of all the big tech and far left censorship of YouTube and social media. Social media and YouTube have transformed America and the world. They are how people communicate today.

You know all of this but you’re just a far left loony tune that will do anything to discredit anyone that doesn’t agree with your far left insane propaganda!

When I post videos they are of award-winning well respected journalist as well as preeminent scientist in whatever field that the topic of discussion is.

And I love my people like you never discredit the fax or the information. You just try to discredit the people or the medium.

This reminds me of the 80s and 90s when talk radio became huge and conservatives dominated talk radio and people on the left acted like oh that’s nothing but a bunch of crockpots and conspiracy theorist! Had there been anyone on the far left ghat had any type of significant audience or traction on talk radio you would have thought it was the greatest thing in the world! People like you discredit anything you can’t control.

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Aug 18, 2021, 1:13 PM

You’re like that slow kid in the 1st grade who gets moved next to the teacher’s desk on the first day because she can see right away he’s gonna need special attention. I’m rooting for you to find a way to grow into this internetting thing, and progress to a point where you don’t need to be babysat.

BTW I’m a fiscally conservative graduate of the very conservative John e Walker economics department at Clemson university, and a registered Republican. You don’t have to be a progressive liberal card carrying ANTIFA member in order to reject ignorant BS from alt-right kooks.

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Re: I love people like you.


Aug 18, 2021, 1:24 PM

Well it just goes to prove that even conservatives can be stupid and brainwashed when ut comes to certain things. Show me science or data that proves me incorrect. I’m tired of people ruining this country based on fear lies and ######## and if you aren’t part of the solution you’re part of the problem. And right now you’re part of the problem.

And oh by the way I was almost always one of my teachers favorite students and I typically sat in the back. I didn’t need special attention. I’m a born leader and I’ve been successful at everything I have done in life. And I have done that despite being a quadriplegic with a spinal cord injury from a car accident since I was in high school.

I have a BS in finance from Clemson and an MBA. I have started and run several successful businesses. I have owned my own mortgage company and been doing real estate and investing for nearly 30 years. I get phone calls weekly from friends and family for my financial and mortgage advice.

It saddens me that people like you have been brainwashed. That you are not educating yourself on the data and the science. Because you are clearly intelligent, but you’re letting the ######## brainwash you.

And FYI being a Republican means absolutely nothing these days. Roughly 1/3 of Republicans are just as bad if not worse than Democrats. The establishment Republicans. The big government big military corporatists! People like mitt Romney and South Carolina’s own scourge on society, Lindsey Graham.


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Re: I love people like you.


Aug 18, 2021, 1:36 PM

Congratulations on overcoming adversity and building a successful life; and I mean that sincerely.

However; your opinions on this, and almost everything else you’ve posted, is ignorant garbage. Don’t forget you engaged me on this topic and I’m not one of the many people who solicit your advice. I have no need to watch your beloved videos as I have my own doctor ,and other medical and scientific professional that I actually know and trust, who’s advice I’ve valued.

Bottom line is that I don’t care about your opinion, and nothing I say will have any impact on you. So, as it would be more effective for me to go into the backyard and argue with the privacy fence as it would be to continue interacting with you, I will no longer be engaging with your nonsense.

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OK Sherlock riddle me this


Aug 18, 2021, 2:02 PM

Do you understand how the PCR test works?

Do you understand that even the creators of the PCR test say it should not be used for Covid?

PCR is not a diagnostic test. It should only be used as confirmation when someone already has symptoms. But that is not what we are doing. And we are using these tests to lock down entire countries. New Zealand just locked down because one person tested positive with the PCR test for the Delta variant. Do you understand how insane that is? If that person isn’t showing symptoms they must probably are not sick and are not contagious. But without the underlying data showing how many cycles it took to get that positive we will never know.

There is no other test that people take that shows simply positive or negative other than a home pregnancy test. And even then you go to the doctor and get a real test a blood test. But there are no Frontline testing that doctors use that does not have underlying data in addition to positive or negative. For example, if you have a bladder infection the test does not come back simply positive or negative. The test also says what type of bacteria you have and to white degree it is sensitive to white antibiotics. That’s how all testing works. Except for PCR. PCR only gives you positive or negative which is absolutely meaningless without the underlying data especially for people that have no symptoms which is the majority of people that test positive.

If it took more than 27 cycles on a PCR test you have nothing to be concerned about because you don’t have Covid you should not be getting quarantined.

A lot of doctors are actually saying what they have to say because they will lose their job or their license if they don’t. There are a lot of doctors in America that will not prescribe ivermectin but they believe it works and they will direct you to the right place so you can get a prescription for ivermectin.

Show data that proves me wrong. People like you keep saying I’m wrong and I’m ignorant and I’m stupid. Really? Where is the data. You have no credibility unless you prove me wrong. Because I actually post real data real numbers real science and include videos or articles by legitimate journalists and scientists that are experts.

We have a clear pattern in the data of who is at risk from Covid. The shut downs the lockdowns are having a far more significant impact on people and the economy especially children than had we not shut down.

And I hate to break it to you but most doctors are not experts in science. Most doctors do not know what’s going on with research. I was watching an award-winning independent journalist just last night that asked her pediatrician about an issue and the pediatrician gave her the wrong information and the journalist showed her a scientific study that proved her doctor wrong and the doctors response was I don’t have time to keep up with all of that.

I was prescribed ivermectin by my doctor in Charleston who is an extremely good young doctor that graduated from Clemson as an undergraduate and Duke medical school.

I am dealing with a bone infection right now that is healing nicely thank you very much and my infectious disease doctor told me that his practice pays a pharmacist to read all of the papers coming out every week because there are literally new papers and new science being published every day but doctors do not have time to keep up with that so they pay a pharmacist to read those papers and give them a monthly synopsis of the latest data and science. I guarantee you probably less than 10% of doctors, probably less than 5% of doctors do something similar.

Due to everything I have dealt with since my accident in 1980 I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt there are a large percentage of doctors that suck! Doctors that are terrible. I’m not talking incompetent, although probably at least 10 to 15% of doctors are incompetent like any other profession, but there are a large percentage of doctors that have not updated what they believe in 20 years or more. They don’t know the science and the data.

There was a guy back in the 1980s that proved that 80% of ulcers are created by bacteria. The medical establishment mocked him for more than 20 years until he finally got people to believe. Never mind all you have to do is run a simple experiment and have a control group and then another group of people with ulcers and give them antibiotics and see what happens. This is one of the easiest things in the world to prove. He proved it over and over again and was still mocked! Today it is accepted that the vast overwhelming majority of ulcers are caused by stomach bacteria and can be cured with antibiotics. Yet it took that guy over 20 years to get the medical establishment to listen. Add this was over something that is as basic as it gets.

I hate to break it to you but most doctors have a huge ego and are incredibly arrogant. Scientists are like journalists. They are supposed to be skeptics but they are not. They dig their heels in and you cannot get them to change their mind without using dynamite.

Doctors are also like politicians. People often think that many are incompetent or bad, but at the same they think their guy is the good guy.

So next time you post rather than call me a name or ignorant post some credible factual information that proves that I’m wrong.

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Aug 18, 2021, 12:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

This is simply not true. How COVID impacts each person varies from person to person. Being, young and health is not a guarantee. I personally know a young woman, in her thirties, excellent health, and a coach. She got COVID and within 24 hours, she was in the hospital on a vent with her organs shutting down. She was in the hospital for while, but now home recovering. She is in PT helping her regain body movement. It was very serious for this one young person, so making a claim that it will not impact you if you are young and healthy is not accurate.

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Yes. Covid does affect everyone differently. Every health condition does the same thing!


Aug 18, 2021, 12:55 PM

That doesn’t change the fact that there are clear patterns. There are clearly known complications.

Here is the reality that you don’t want to accept Covid is not as deadly as any of the past epidemics we have had including those with other viruses over the last 20 to 30 years.

Covid is nowhere near as deadly as the Spanish flu in 1918, which killed over 3% of the American population. Covid has only killed .19% of the American population and people are far less healthy today and live in much more crowded conditions which helps with the spread.

Only around 1200 people under the age of 25 have died from Covid. And the overwhelming majority of them had health issues. Have you seen how fat kids are today? Have you seen the diet of kids today? Have you seen the rate of diabetes in children today?

80% of the people that have died from Covid were over the age of 65.

80% of the people that have died from Covid were obese and had High blood sugar or were diabetic.

Even the CDC has said that less than 10% of the people that have died from Covid died only from Covid.

So you can run around like chicken Little and say stuff that has a kernel of truth but is actually contextually incredibly stupid because it doesn’t look at the numbers and the data and the science!

We know exactly who is at high risk when exposed to Covid. And at no point in history have we ever punished everyone to protect the tiny minority of people that are at high risk. The people at risk do what it takes to protect themselves. We don’t punish everyone. But that is what we are doing. We have never had mandates like this and we have never had widespread mandatory testing with a test that doesn’t even test for Covid and is extremely flawed because it has a poor methodology and it doesn’t even reveal the underlying data that would show that a huge percentage of the people testing positive are actually not sick , will not get sick, and cannot spread the disease. But we are using the PCR test as if it is the gold standard and if you test positive you have to be quarantine for 14 days even if you have never shown symptoms, which means you’re not really sick!

I love idiots on the left that don’t know #### about science, don’t follow the science, and don’t follow the data! Nothing but government ######## and talking points!


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Re: Yes. Covid does affect everyone differently. Every health condition does the same thing!


Aug 18, 2021, 1:45 PM



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The majority of what you posted


Aug 18, 2021, 2:11 PM

I agree with 100% and I’ve never said otherwise. People like you are not reading and comprehending what I am posting.

And Delta is simply another thing that proves how the government and people on the left freak out at the slightest little uptick in numbers without waiting for any data and any science.

I have seen many experts serious big-time respected experts that are looking at the data and think that the Delta variant has already peaked and it’s going to burn out faster than the original virus.

The only reason the numbers look as high as they are is because people are looking at percentages not real cases. They are looking at positive PCR testing which has been proven repeatedly to be incredibly flawed.

So there is in fact a lot of debate even over Delta because it hasn’t been around that long and some of the new data emerging is telling a very different picture than the sky is falling fear mongering that people on the left and the government repeatedly do.

I’ll look at the science and I’ll look at the data. That is where I inform my opinions. As well as listening to real experts.

The data coming out of Ireland and Israel seem to be establishing that 50% of their hospitalizations are people that were vaccinated.

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Re: The majority of what you posted


Aug 18, 2021, 2:26 PM



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XT would beg to differ and Justin Foster, though he was


Aug 18, 2021, 12:52 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

unhealthy since he had asthma

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"It's Baltimore, Gentlemen; the Gods will not save you."


No one said they couldn’t get it. That’s the problem with you people.


Aug 18, 2021, 1:12 PM

You don’t ####### read and comprehend!

The vast overwhelming majority of young people have absolutely no issues with Covid.

Both of the players you mentioned have had injuries and health problems while at Clemson. Both of the people you mentioned are actually overweight. Have you ever seen what lineman look like five years after graduating from college if they don’t play in the NFL? Tons of them lose over 100 pounds and are unrecognizable. These guys put a ton of stress and strain on their bodies.

How many of them ended up in the hospital? Zero!

How many of them have died? Zero!

How many children under the age of 25 in America have died from Covid? Roughly 1200.

So get back to me when you have some data that shows any significant impact from Covid among young people especially young and healthy people being hospitalized or dying from Covid.

You are on here posting about Covid based on fear ignorance propaganda and total ######## that is not supported by data or science.

Remember when we couldn’t play football because kids were going to be dying and they were going to be having all types of heart conditions etc. etc.? No one has died. I don’t know of any players beyond maybe a handful that have been hospitalized. I have only heard of one or two that had any type of heart issues, which more college players than that have heart issues every year. There’s no way to know if they already had an unknown heart issue. Every few years a college athlete drops dead from a heart attack. Justin Ross and Mike Williams did not know about their health issues until they got injured in a game. This is very common.

Here’s the thing people like you keep missing.

I have never said Covid is not serious.

I have never said Covid is not extremely contagious.

What I am saying is it’s not extremely deadly. We know the people that are at high risk. They never ever should have been a shut down. More children I’m going to have serious mental health issues, suicide, depression, drugs and alcohol addiction, anxiety, and other issues because of the lockdown because of the fear mongering than the #### disease!

We never ever should’ve had lockdowns. We should not be using the PCR test to randomly test people that aren’t showing symptoms. We should be showing how many cycles they’re positive test took. Anything under 27 and they don’t need to be quarantined or considered sick, specially if they don’t have symptoms.

The overwhelming majority of people on here posting have no clue how the PCR test works or the actual data and numbers and science behind Covid relative to other pandemics.

Every single person that tries to discredit me or counter whatever I post is posting out of fear and ignorance! No one has yet shown any data to prove anything wrong that I have posted.

So again where is your data? Where is the evidence to support your opinion?

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You JUST said young people don't have issues with it here


Aug 18, 2021, 1:29 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=29286326#29286326

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And another person that doesn’t read and comprehend.


Aug 18, 2021, 1:40 PM

I have never said kids don’t have a problem with Covid. But Very few children have issues with Covid. Do some? Yes. But it is rare.

If I made the statement that kids don’t have trouble with Covid I was clearly saying that there is no significant or even moderate risk for children. That doesn’t mean there is zero risk. There’s this thing called life. People die laying in bed. Life is risk. But there is no moderate nor significant risk to children of Covid. That has been made painfully clear bye the data.

I have repeatedly posted the data.

Here is the data, again!

Roughly 1200 people under the age of 25 have died in America from Covid. And the vast majority of them had health issues. American children have epidemics of obesity and diabetes as well as other health issues because of their diet and lifestyle.

Healthy children literally have a far greater risk from suicide, dying in a car accident, etc. and the data has shown the seasonal flu kills more children than Covid. That is scientific fact!

I have never said children don’t die from Covid. That children have no risk from Covid. Only an idiot would say something like that. The data, however, clearly shows children have very little risk from Covid and the vast overwhelming majority of children that have had negative Covid consequences or died are kids that had serious health issues such as obesity and diabetes.

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Aug 18, 2021, 5:20 PM

You said, and I quote: "Young people don't have issues with Covid." Sounds pretty cut and dried, maybe it's not my comprehension, but your composition that is to blame here Ace...You plainly stated that young people don't have issues, how else are we to interpret that statement?

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Dude, wait until you turn 50 and see how easy it is to


Aug 18, 2021, 1:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

lose weight.

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Once again an idiot that thinks they know me because of my postings online.


Aug 18, 2021, 1:15 PM

I’m 55 years old and I have been in a wheelchair as a quadriplegic since high school. I was in a car accident in high school that prevented me from playing football and running track at Clemson along with my two best friends growing up.

I was the first person to live on campus and go to Clemson as a full-time student in a wheelchair.

Don’t ####### tell me I don’t know how hard it is to lose weight.

You know why people don’t lose weight? Because they don’t know #### about science. Get on YouTube and learn about keto and carnivore and intermittent fasting.

I have been doing keto and intermittent fasting this year and I have lost more weight in two months than I have been able to lose in the last 10 years. In roughly 90 days I have lost 30 pounds with zero exercise!

I feel better than I have in 20 years. My blood work is better than it’s been in 20 years.

I’m actually not that overweight. I am 5 foot 10 and currently weigh around 200 pounds. But being in a wheelchair with only upper body muscle mass I am overweight and I’m planning on getting down to around 150. And I will achieve that before my 56th birthday in March doing keto and intermittent fasting.

So now what do you have to say smart ###?


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Re: Once again an idiot that thinks they know me because of my postings online.


Aug 18, 2021, 2:38 PM

I'm 56 and I'm pretty sure I remember you. You have my admiration.

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What is you like if work my friend?


Aug 18, 2021, 1:44 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

I'm bagging unvax people with few comorbidities.
We have an average age of 43 in the icu my last 5 days.

I feel little for the people I'm watching die young and quickly bc of ignorance like your post. Not one of these pts thought it would be them.

You make your choice, that's fine, but don't speak of things as fact if you have NO first hand understanding. If you do, please share it.

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Your postings are emotional and anecdotal.


Aug 18, 2021, 2:13 PM

Show me the data. Show me credible data from Johns Hopkins or the CDC or some other establish source that can be verified and confirmed.

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Emotional and anecdotal?


Aug 18, 2021, 2:29 PM



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And again you don’t read and comprehend very well.


Aug 18, 2021, 2:19 PM [ in reply to What is you like if work my friend? ]

I have never said Covid is not serious. I have never said no one should not get vaccinated if that’s what they want to do. I have said there should not be mandates. And the courts so far agree with me for the most part. You are seeing people in Canada and other countries that are very liberal even in France pushing back against government mandates. You can’t tell people what to put in their body especially an experimental vaccine. And let’s be honest any approval less than 10 years is rushed. Look at how long the FDA takes to give the average drug approval. You almost never see a drug approved in less than seven years. That is very rare. So of course people are going to be skeptical. Including legitimate doctors researchers and scientists that are all over the Internet but are being silenced.

Go watch the videos on YouTube of the Democrats before Joe Biden got elected saying they would never take a vaccine created under the Trump administration. The minute Joe Biden got nominated and took office all of a sudden Biden took credit for the vaccine and Democrats think it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. You can’t make this #### up man.

Also the two groups least vaccinated are blacks and Hispanics who overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.

They don’t trust the government and they don’t trust doctors. And who can blame them.

You do realize that the shut downs have been worse than the actual virus. Do you understand that right? When you look at drug addiction what is done to the economy when you look at suicide anxiety and these things have been even worse among children. The Keira has been worse than the disease. Politicians people on the left are not following the data and the science. This is about power money and control.

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Aug 18, 2021, 2:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

I just had covid….I’m 6’2” 330lb…..41yrs…..high BP….and mild asthma……tested positive last Wednesday…..I’m good to go now…..experienced many of the symptoms…..sweats lasted 10-20 min…..headache…..2days….loss of taste and smell…..2days…..lethargic……2 days………I’d say my body does a great job fighting crud……ps…..I’ve never had the flu.

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Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now***


Aug 18, 2021, 2:28 PM

……I’m not vaccinated

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I got Covid 18 months ago....


Aug 18, 2021, 2:20 PM [ in reply to Re: Was out for a while with COVID but is back now*** ]

and had trouble breathing for the better part of a year.

Mind you I've ran 14:00 for a 5k & 29:00 for a 10k and recorded a low 80's VO2 max less than 15 years ago (Im 44 now). So, breathing has obviously never been a problem for me. Matter of fact, it was maybe my strongest asset as a runner.

In all seriousness, I now consider myself lucky to be alive.

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Back on the air, sounds good


Aug 18, 2021, 9:20 AM

Says he's still not 100%, but overall doing well.

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Re: Back on the air, sounds good


Aug 18, 2021, 9:28 AM

He said this morning that he's not fully recovered but getting better every day.

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Re: Back on the air, sounds good


Aug 18, 2021, 9:49 AM

He actually said he was vaccinated and he caught it and it kicked his rear end. Said he has no stamina. Hard to walk a few yards to a restaurant. Three weeks after getting ill.

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Re: Back on the air, sounds good


Aug 18, 2021, 9:53 AM

That #### china virus.

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Re: Back on the air, sounds good


Aug 18, 2021, 2:21 PM [ in reply to Re: Back on the air, sounds good ]

Makes you wonder, if he didn't have the vaccine, would he still be with us today?

So glad he's pulled through and hope he continues to get better.

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