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Re: Lefty Journalist doing his Lefty Nazi thingy
May 9, 2022, 1:07 AM
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Ah yes, to those among the TNetters who suffer from cognitive dissonance, try to pay attention.
Just because someone "identifies" as being a Lefty doesn't cleanse him of his Nazi behavior.
Lefty Portland journalist (OMG, a noble JOURNALIST ???) / arsonist targeting synagogues and mosques?
Antisemitism anyone?
But NOOOO, self-identified leftists can't be Nazi's ... because lefties don't identify with being Nazis.
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So all arsonists are Nazis?***
May 9, 2022, 8:04 AM
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Re: Lefty Journalist doing his Lefty Nazi thingy
May 9, 2022, 8:10 AM
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Not long ago, a firefighter was arrested for starting fires, was he also a Nazi?
Or are you only referring to those who burn religious places?
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Re: Journalist arrested for trying to burn down
May 9, 2022, 6:35 AM
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Yep, if the right isn't actually doing all the bad things the left wants us to do, then they will do them for us. Ain't that considerate?
Again, these corrupt, no moral, no ethics liberprogs are the worst people on the planet.
Will you see anyone in the MSM call this out and denounce it? How about The View's Sunny Hostin? Nah, they won't say chit about this because in reality they want more of it to try and prove their false narratives.
Just like the black-dressed fake MAGA people at the Capital on Jan 6th.
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Re: Journalist arrested for trying to burn down
May 9, 2022, 7:04 AM
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Especially good call re: black-dressed fake MAGA people on January 6.
To introduce a third-party trouble maker element into the January 6 protests, these Antifa thugs (who had mastered the 'hide their identity' act during the excuse-for-George-Floyd-riots throughout the months of June through December 2020) added an element of violence to the riots.
The MSM knew (and knows about this); when they day finally arrives that this gets formally proven, January 6 will such a distant memory that the USA's leftists will yawn with a 'that's ages ago, no one is interested' refrain.
Just like they are trying to do with the Hillary Clinton fraud matter ... 'it's old news, time to move on' refrain.
The P-WOP party ... People With Out Principles.
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Re: Journalist arrested for trying to burn down
May 9, 2022, 7:37 AM
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Bivins is a psycho and he works for...wait for it...nobody. The word "journalist" is...self-applied, here. He looks like a trust fund yahoo sort of pinwheeling around in life.
I saw one reference to an article he co-wrote for Williamette Week...which is a local left-leaning tabloid. He did get interviewed by WaPo once in reference to some 2016 Portland riots. In Portland riot terms, that's like, so ten riots ago.
Basically he comes across as a lefty version of Andy Ngo. The difference is nobody seems eager to hire Bivins.
But I love how you take this obscure loose cannon with almost zero actual journalistic credentials and make him representative of all "journalists."
This stuff is easy to check, it's called "google". If you wonder why I don't take the MAGA clown show seriously, this is why. Your WWE reality is just stupid.
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Re: Journalist arrested for trying to burn down
May 9, 2022, 7:53 AM
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Freelancers make up the majority of press rooms.
But, I agree, he isn't representative of all journalists.
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He doesn't represent any of em because he isn't one
May 9, 2022, 7:58 AM
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He's just a guy who ran around with a camera or a phone and claimed to be one.
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Re: He doesn't represent any of em because he isn't one
May 9, 2022, 7:59 AM
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I agree.
Although he did write many articles for the Eugene Weekly newspaper. Looks like that was cut off around 2019 though.
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Re: Wait. Are we talking about Bivins, or Ngo?***
May 9, 2022, 8:20 AM
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LOL
That was a good one.
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YOu have a pretty low bar for what qualifies as a
May 9, 2022, 8:36 AM
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journalist, but then again you watch tucker and Hannity.
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Re: YOu have a pretty low bar for what qualifies as a
May 9, 2022, 8:42 AM
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I think society, as a whole, has a pretty low bar for journalism. We just don't have time for real journalism. It doesn't feed the beast.
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Re: To be honest, there are no real journalists anymore***
May 9, 2022, 1:08 PM
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Sure boo.
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Re: To be honest, there are no real journalists anymore***
May 9, 2022, 1:57 PM
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Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 9, 2022, 8:47 PM
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Especially you, XTiger.
Anyone who hasn't ever done anything in the profession of journalism knows #### about it. Period.
This little arson ##### ain't a journalist, and neither is this Ngo clown.
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 9, 2022, 9:13 PM
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Especially you, XTiger.
Anyone who hasn't ever done anything in the profession of journalism knows #### about it. Period.
This little arson ##### ain't a journalist, and neither is this Ngo clown.
Last time you bragged about being a "journalist" you were commenting on the officer sicknick death. You said it was very common to get reporting wrong in this instance.
In this instance, it was reported that he was bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher by the crazed maga crowd. What actually happened was he had a blood clot a couple days later. You said that this was a common error and it happens all the time. Lol.
No wonder you aren't a "journalist" anymore.
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 9, 2022, 9:21 PM
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I know you aren't smart but I'll try my best.
Simple sentences okay?
When law enforcement tells reporters how someone dies, this is how they report it. Sometimes law enforcement is initially incorrect. But reporters tell the public this is what they said. Sometimes coroner's reports contradict the initial law enforcement claim. Then the reporters correct it.
That's how it works. It isn't hard. Stupid people with poor reading comprehension skills and lack of any critical thinking whatsoever often believe the reporters "get it wrong" when reporting what law enforcement initially tell them.
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Re: Related. I think you'll appreciate it.
May 9, 2022, 10:17 PM
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Stupid people with 0 critical thinking skills, and no unique thoughts often point to grammar when they have nothing else to say.
I'm on a message board typing on a phone. Deal with it, nerd.
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Dude. I wasn't talking to you.
May 9, 2022, 10:22 PM
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And the link is not about you. And it's not even about grammar on a message board.
It's about the passive voice used by local journalists when reporting on police shootings.
So stop snowflaking the eff out chief.
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Re: Dude. I wasn't talking to you.
May 9, 2022, 11:22 PM
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Sorry ace. Just saw your link and read ambiguous grammar. My b.
We can admit when im wrong, unlike catahoula.
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I still love you.***
May 9, 2022, 11:24 PM
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 9, 2022, 10:09 PM
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Yes. All of that is common sense, you naive chode.
You said there was nothing nefarious about how it was reported and that an error of this magnitude was common.
Can you name any other example of a report on a police death being this wrong? And you still think that it was an innocent mistake?
How do you confuse a death by stroke 2 days after the riot with being bludgeoned in the head with a fire exteinguisher
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 9, 2022, 10:20 PM
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How do you confuse a death by stroke 2 days after the riot with being bludgeoned in the head with a fire exteinguisher
It's called an autopsy and a coroner's report, dumb ###.
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 10, 2022, 8:52 AM
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How do you confuse a death by stroke 2 days after the riot with being bludgeoned in the head with a fire exteinguisher
It's called an autopsy and a coroner's report, dumb ###.
Lol!!! You keep digging yourself a deeper hole.
How do you confuse a stroke 2 days after the riot with being bludgeoned in the head with a fire extinguisher in an autopsy?
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Re: Ain't none of y'all know nothin' about journalism
May 10, 2022, 2:41 PM
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Jesus Christ... his autopsy and report weren't concluded until April 21, 2021--over three months later. Police can't make that kind of medical determination over something like that. That's why it goes to the coroner.
Are you really this dense that you think the media made this up and got it wrong? Don't you think the police and the coroner would have corrected them immediately if they knew the answer?
Good Christ, you can't be this dumb.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes-after-riot-n1264562
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Re: Not much, but I know a smidgen about journalism
May 9, 2022, 10:32 PM
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My uncle (RIP) was a sports journalist (worked for mid-major newspaper in the NE quadrant of the USA).
He admitted that sports reporting in general (which of course excludes the TNet staff) was the bottom of the run as far as reporters.
He acknowledged that most reporters simply take what their interview 'source' tells them (with quotes being great filler material), and then hustle to make their deadlines. The special value that he'd brought to the paper was his relationships with professional sports stars from his alma mater (whom he had gotten to know when he was a student sports reporter).
Being a mid-major newspaper, he got to know some of his colleagues in other departments such as local, national, and business reporters.
Pretty much all of them did the same ... take what their source told them and do a write up on it.
Hard work, indeed. But not a whole lot of corroboration work (except when it was easy to do with a source whom the reporter had cultivated).
FWIW ... have I put you guys to sleep yet?
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Re: Not much, but I know a smidgen about journalism
May 10, 2022, 7:57 AM
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Yes, reporters interview people and officials and sources, write stories, and make deadlines. Thank you.
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Re: Very good ... I see that you get it
May 10, 2022, 11:07 AM
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The post worked!
I see that you recognize that reporters take what they learn from a source, transcribe their thoughts and notes from an interview into readable language, and submit their article. (With luck, their editor will not eviscerate the reporter.)
What's missing? Very few reporters are truly investigative reporters. with respect topics which are more complicated then the time / place of the local girl scout's cookie drives, the typical reporter does not spend the time, nor does the reporter's employer agree to provide the resources (time, money, travel budget, etc.) for the reporter to corroborate information that they get from sources with respect to complicated subjects.
Properly done corroboration requires conducting background work on these corroborating sources, and to seek out 'differing point of views' from additional corroborating sources.
Since the news organization's management directs the reporters where to go, frequently 'suggests' corroborating sources, and restrains the reporters budget, and has tight time lines ... the value of work from the typical reporter is pretty low.
Punchline: The non-lazy consumer of news will do her/his own work to seek out differing points of view from what their 'favorite' news outlets feed to them.
Again, I'm glad that you get this. Good job.
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Re: Very good ... I see that you get it
May 10, 2022, 1:57 PM
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What's missing? Very few reporters are truly investigative reporters. with respect topics which are more complicated then the time / place of the local girl scout's cookie drives, the typical reporter does not spend the time, nor does the reporter's employer agree to provide the resources (time, money, travel budget, etc.) for the reporter to corroborate information that they get from sources with respect to complicated subjects.
This is not true.
Properly done corroboration requires conducting background work on these corroborating sources, and to seek out 'differing point of views' from additional corroborating sources.
Since the news organization's management directs the reporters where to go, frequently 'suggests' corroborating sources, and restrains the reporters budget, and has tight time lines ... the value of work from the typical reporter is pretty low.
Punchline: The non-lazy consumer of news will do her/his own work to seek out differing points of view from what their 'favorite' news outlets feed to them.
Again, I'm glad that you get this. Good job.
The only person more uninformed about journalism than the average person is someone who had a relative who worked in the industry. They're even more uninformed because they THINK they know something about the business but don't.
You don't really get it. Good Lawd... what travel budget do you think a local reporter needs when covering his or her beat? They get in their cars and go.
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Re: Portland journalist credentials = reg. journalist creds
May 10, 2022, 1:35 PM
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Just on the off chance that you didn't get it ... flash back:
Yesterday evening (a little before 9 PM) you wrote along the lines of 'None of you know anything about journalism ... people who haven't been journalists don't know anything about it.'
Then you cite the Portland arson / journalist as somehow being lower than the other journalists based on the lack of credentials for the Portland arsonist and then tossed in Andy Ngo to 'prove' your high esteem for journalists.
My post (to which you graciously agreed) points out the most journalists are nothing special, and that from a professional qualifications perspective, the Portland arson / journalist pretty much fits the profile of most journalists.
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Re: Portland journalist credentials = reg. journalist creds
May 10, 2022, 2:00 PM
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No, I said those two weren't because one is a nutjob partisan arsonist hack, and the other one is the same but just doesn't burn down buildings. They aren't journalists.
... the Portland arson / journalist pretty much fits the profile of most journalists.
Uh, no, he was a freelancer for a partisan rag. That's not "most".
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Re: Portland journalist credentials = reg. journalist creds
May 10, 2022, 2:36 PM
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Rats ... I thought there was a rational discussion going.
This shouldn't be about anyone getting their back up if his/her previous comments contradict each other.
If it's social standing 'being right' in the eyes of other TNetters instead of coming to a rational conclusion based on statements and positions, then I'm out.
But thanks anyways ... at the very least I can appreciate that you put passion into your posts.
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