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Vanguard Investments just outspent Tesla magnate to become largest
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Vanguard Investments just outspent Tesla magnate to become largest


Apr 14, 2022, 6:23 PM

shareholder of Twitter with 10.4% ownership to Musk's 9.2%.

They are left-leaning politically so what do you know..things are back to willy-nilly Censorship!

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They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 6:38 PM

statement on April 8, right?

Doesn't sound like that had anything to do with Musk, does it?

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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 6:55 PM

Vanguard is an investment group worth $8+ trillion in total assets - again, I remind people that the total net worth of Planet Earth is roughly $418 trillion - so they sort of exemplify "lead pipe capitalism."

But yeah, Bill, they're leftist. Carry on.

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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 6:59 PM

Blackrock are lead pipe capitalists, and lefties. They just finished stuffing climate alarmists on the Exxon board. Good luck to them.

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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 7:01 PM

Do even listen to yourself sometimes?

"Climate alarmists on the Exxon board."

At some point, it could just be you're very stupid.

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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 7:08 PM

I am very stupid, but you must be stupiderer.
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/blackrock-climate-change-doubletalk-larry-fink-esg-exxon-warrior-met-coal-sasb-stakeholder-capitalism-11644167948


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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 7:12 PM

So having a "purpose" beyond short-term profit and eff everything else - including long-term survival - is "leftist" now?

Exxon sponsored a bunch of internal climate data. Even their own studies indicated their product was to Planet Earth what Joe Camel was to human lungs.

This is...maybe not the best business decision ever, if you're trying to avoid winding up like Big Tobacco did.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/16092015/exxons-own-research-confirmed-fossil-fuels-role-in-global-warming/


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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 7:54 PM

Nope nothing is wrong at looking to the future, but this is how an alarmist would do it: “ Exxon had planned to increase oil and gas production by 25% over the next five years. After the proxy battle, Exxon plans to keep oil output at the lowest level in two decades, a 20% decline from prior forecasts”

They aren’t decreasing fossil fuel output, they are just shifting it from Exxon to other companies that do a much dirtier job. Period.

So, you basically made the climate worse through wokeness. You can increase production while simultaneously building for the future of energy. What Exxon did was fold their hand, and bow to idiots.

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Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1....


Apr 14, 2022, 9:41 PM [ in reply to Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1.... ]

Exxon has gone woke; the politics behind them coming up with a man-made global warming study justifies their 'study' to pander to the public and politicians by their poorly done "woke" climate change work.

Going to do this again ... but this time without the link (which is far too long for TNet site):


Man-made Climate Change - False Conclusion.

NOAA’s own data disputes their written conclusion that ‘man made’ CO2 is the main factor in global climate change. They don’t know, nor can they explain how the globe was so warm from ~ 925 AD through ~1075 AD (i.e., long before anthropogenic CO2 was possible).

NOAA Article: Climate Change - Incoming Sunlight (Oct. 7, 2021) - - - here is my summary:

The human-driven component is of climate change is unproven; NOAA’s attempts to devise a model to predict solar activity as a predictive indicator of climate change don’t hold up. NOAA’s failure to establish a solar activity vs. global temperature correlation proves that their solar model is wrong, and that solar activity is not predictable. Their recent years data (~ 300 years) is far too small of a data subset to be statistically meaningful when warming cycles of 400+ years are known to have happened since Jesus Christ’s time on earth.

Assertions that the recent ~ 100 year warming trend as being caused by anthropogenic CO2 are statistical B.S., based on the NOAA’s own (entire set of) data.

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Refer to NOAA article’s section titled “Long-term changes in solar activity” which is found a little less than half-way through the paper.

The article asserts that solar “warm periods” … followed by solar “cool periods” … are ~ 100 years. The article’s solar data reflects a bumpy sine wave of ~ 100 years in duration. In other words, the sine wave starts at a “cool” climate minimum (at ‘year 0’), then rises to a “warm” climate maximum (at ‘year 50’), and then ends at a “cool” climate minimum again (at ‘year 100’). (*) Refer to the 2nd paragraph and the chart “Schwabe and Gleissberg Cycles since 1700.”


From ~ 925 AD through ~ 1075 AD, the temperatures in N.America were inexplicably warmer - - - as warm as they are now the 21st century. (*) This is seen in the 3rd graph in the “Long-term changes in solar activity” section.

The fascinating part of this section is the editors’ decision to barely mention the ~ 150 year warm period from ~ 925 AD through ~ 1075 AD, which is revealed by their own data. There is also the fact that the “sine wave” which encompasses this period is ~ 400 years in duration.

As such, there is also no attempt to explain that period’s high temperatures and no one mentioned that their ‘100 year per sine wave’ model is utterly destroyed by this 400 year sine wave from ~ 800 AD to ~ 1200 AD.

In other words, none of the NOAA editors touched on the near-certainty that anthropogenic driven increases in CO2 levels did not cause the temperature rise during this period, nor did they assert that their arduously composed ‘proof-of-minimal-impact’ solar-activity during that period model might also be wrong.

(*) NOAA’s failure to discuss how their ‘minimal solar activity / less solar warmth’ model during the period of 800 AD to 1200 AD was contradicted by the fact that global temperatures were high for so long. Their ‘100 year sine wave’ for fluctuations in solar activity are proven as untrue; solar activity can be warm … with long term warming trends … for periods that far exceed 100 year cycles.

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Any assertion by the NOAA that the recent increase in global temperatures is caused by man-made CO2 cannot be proven as factual in light of the NOAA’s failed solar model (which asserts that the current solar activity is not in a cycle of increased activity). Just because they say it doesn’t mean its true … their own data fails to prove their own assertion.

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Vanguard is not worth 8 trillion


Apr 14, 2022, 7:07 PM [ in reply to Re: They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1.... ]

they manage funds. Blackrock manages funds as well. Blackrock stock itself has a market cap of 105 billion. They manage over 9 trillion, but it's not their money.

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Re: Vanguard is not worth 8 trillion


Apr 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

Well, sure. In much the same way as Elon Musk is not really "worth" $250 billion or whatever absurdist amount he's valued at, he owns stock. He can't just pull $250 billion out of the piggy bank, his money's tied up.

Still that's an enormous volume of wealth they're responsible for managing the direction of, and that they do directly control.

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Re: Vanguard is not worth 8 trillion


Apr 15, 2022, 11:05 AM

not the same at all lol.

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quozzell is a lying POS...the walls are closing in idiot***


Apr 14, 2022, 8:05 PM [ in reply to Vanguard is not worth 8 trillion ]



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If she's a hollerer, she'll be a screamer.
If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


Re: quozzell is a lying POS...the walls are closing in idiot***


Apr 14, 2022, 9:23 PM

They are closing in. Donald somehow keeps kicking those cans down the road...but at some point, Donald is going to run out of road. Everyone always does.

When the knives finally come out, it's going to look like the end of Julius Caesar. Caesar got away with obliterating norms and crossing every line imaginable in Roman culture and politics as well. Until he didn't.



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Re: quozzell is a lying POS...the walls are closing in idiot***


Apr 15, 2022, 8:21 PM

Trump = Caesar-Quozzel '22

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Musk bought majority shares a.few weeks ago


Apr 14, 2022, 6:57 PM [ in reply to They did that during Q1 and disclosed in their Q1.... ]

Didn't he? So those purchases would be after his. Doesn't matter. Majority holder doesn't give u much anyway. I don't think

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just a few more votes***


Apr 14, 2022, 7:08 PM



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I can't find any firm dates....


Apr 14, 2022, 7:39 PM [ in reply to Musk bought majority shares a.few weeks ago ]

Both seem to have disclosed the purchases in Q1 SEC filings and Musk publicly announced he had been buying shares.

It's not clear to me that Vanguard would have known this when buying their shares sometime between Jan and end of March.

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How is Vanguard left leaning? No I’m not bothering to look it up.


Apr 15, 2022, 12:23 PM

I guess if they are, the only solution is for Alex Jones to start offering funds.

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Just because they own the largest stake doesn't mean they


Apr 15, 2022, 1:34 PM

get to make the rules.

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