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2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.
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2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 5:16 PM

Saying, I can not believe that the USA will see anywhere near 80,000 dead from COV19 this year.

Of the 80,000 Americans killed from 1917-18, 90% were over 65! The same is a fact now since medium age seems to be in the 70’s.

Hope my naivety is justified.

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Check this out...


Mar 28, 2020, 6:32 PM

What if... just saying what if. What if... the universities, the businesses, the city councils, county councils said, "Hey! We made our employees come to work and now out of thousands there's that one who says I caught the virus from ...YOU."

Think about it.

And now you know why the world is s******g... haha, whoops. Typo. I mean, shutting down?

Lawyers.

Lawyers.

"I will sue you because I went to a Clemson game.... USC....Olympics...a concert.... an ice cream stand.... "

And it's your fault I became ill.

Lawyers.

There was a time before lawyers where people accepted responsibility for their actions. But, hey. Ask a lawyer. You can be stupid and STILL get paid!

Just ranting. Will I give a "Sorry, but.." line? Heck f'ing no. I'm not a p***y. I don't apologize for my view. And neither should you. When you preface your statement with, "I'm sorry but..." I automatically file you in the p***y category.

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I'd say...


Mar 28, 2020, 6:34 PM

Good luck holding court with less than 10...uh...5...ahem...2 people...and rendering an outcome. ;)

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Re: I'd say...


Mar 28, 2020, 7:57 PM

Because the mortality rate is 100%, or something close to it, of course.

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Re: Check this out...


Mar 28, 2020, 10:43 PM [ in reply to Check this out... ]

What did Obama do doing the H1N1 ??? That's right everybidy still went to work because he didnt give a #### about us

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Re: Check this out...


Mar 29, 2020, 9:17 AM

Amazing, isn't it? There was a major global pandemic, Obama was in charge, and yet very few people wound up dying and the entire economy didn't collapse. It's almost like he was really competent and that the country responded by not having a national freak-out.

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Re: Check this out...not going to happen ....


Mar 29, 2020, 9:33 AM [ in reply to Check this out... ]

that is not going to happen .. proving where you got the virus would be very tough first of all, not to mention, in all practicality, you would have to prove reckless behavior in a jury trial to win. If you did get it on the job, then you could not sue your employer as in any traditional meaning of the word. You would, at best , have a workers compensation claim. The only way there would be am additional third party lawsuit would perhaps be if the employer knowingly sent an employee into a hazardous and harmful situation without informing the employee, , for ex> Employer knows employees 1, 2, and 3 have corona. Employer puts those three in room 105 and tells them to keep it to themselves so as to avoid panic in the rest of the building. Employer later tells employee 4 to help out 1, 2, and 3, in room 105 without informing employee 4 of the corona.


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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 6:36 PM

my grandfather/namesake died in his 40's in '18

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Mar 28, 2020, 6:37 PM

Bill, what about the small pox outbreak in the late 19th century, were people freaking out like they are now?

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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 6:46 PM



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Mar 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

I hope you are right, Bill. The bad news is that the US death rate doubled in two days to 2,000.

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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 8:24 PM

Well, the University faculties will have new openings.

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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 10:05 PM

Actually, they really don't know. The CDC doesn't track real flu deaths. Only estimates. They don't know how many really die from the flu.

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So, will they know how many really die from COVID-19?


Mar 28, 2020, 11:35 PM

I contend that the death rate is much lower than is being reported. That's because we really do not know how many people are/were infected with COVID-19 because we don't everyone. I contend that most people with COVID-19 symptoms are simply self-quarantining, and healing. Thus the recovery rate is wrong too.

How can we do the math or track statistics if we are not counting everyone? We don't exactly have exit polls.

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Mar 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

This is exactly why long-term mitigation is so critical! Assuming the infection rate holds with the trends predicted by the epidemiologists and about half of all Americans end up harboring this virus, even a 1% to 1.5% mortality rate means well over 1 million deaths.

The scale of this thing is beyond anything almost anyone living in this country has experienced.

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Mar 28, 2020, 10:45 PM

300.000 died of the swine flu !!!!!!!!! Did we shut the country down ??????? Asking for a libtard

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Mar 28, 2020, 11:01 PM

Not sure where your numbers are coming from, but I’m quite certain that figure is inaccurate. The 2009-10 H1N1 mortality in the United States was something like .02%. The demonstrable mortality rate of Covid-19 is at least 50 times that figure. The inability to recognize health crises at scale is staggering.

Also - from a totally cynical personal opinion - the reason the country didn’t shut down because of swine flu is that it didn’t have an overly sized impact on the generation who holds political and economic power. Most of the H1N1 deaths were people younger than 40.

The fact that we’re being presented with a false choice between public welfare and economic prosperity says a lot about the damnable politicization of the present issue.

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Using your words...


Mar 28, 2020, 11:38 PM

"Most of the H1N1 deaths were people younger than 40."
And we did NOTHING.
Most of the COVID-19 deaths are people over 65 or 70.
SO, we care more about old people who have only a few years left than younger people who have many more years left? That makes no sense.

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Re: Using your words...


Mar 29, 2020, 7:56 AM

Look at the average age of a Congressman, Senator, or corporate CEO and you have your answer.

Bluntly, no, we - as a nation - don’t care about young people, laborers, or the generationally poor.

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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 28, 2020, 11:01 PM [ in reply to Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu. ]

Not sure where your numbers are coming from, but I’m quite certain that figure is inaccurate. The 2009-10 H1N1 mortality in the United States was something like .02%. The demonstrable mortality rate of Covid-19 is at least 50 times that figure. The inability to recognize health crises at scale is staggering.

Also - from a totally cynical personal opinion - the reason the country didn’t shut down because of swine flu is that it didn’t have an overly sized impact on the generation who holds political and economic power. Most of the H1N1 deaths were people younger than 40.

The fact that we’re being presented with a false choice between public welfare and economic prosperity says a lot about the damnable politicization of the present issue.

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Mar 28, 2020, 11:19 PM [ in reply to Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu. ]

The swine flu didn't kill 300,000 Americans.

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Mar 29, 2020, 1:54 AM [ in reply to Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu. ]

Less than 13k died from the swine flu. I imagine our numbers now will be around 25k. Don’t know why just a feeling.

Stay safe!

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:27 AM

whatever the final death toll is from this in our country, do not forget to consider the actions taken to prevent more. If such actions weren’t taken the toll would be much higher.
Italy population is about 60 million and so far there are 10k deaths, including the extreme lockdown measures. Wonder what it would be if they were not locking down. It’s only been a short while, the first case reported 2 months ago. US population is about 330 million. Of known closed cases, China death rate is 4%, they only had 3000 deaths or so but did the most extreme lockdown.

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Do you really believe the Chineese gov?


Mar 30, 2020, 6:22 AM

I don't.

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Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu.


Mar 29, 2020, 9:19 AM [ in reply to Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu. ]

300,000 died in the United States of the Swine Flu? No. 10,000 died of the Swine Flu in the U.S. Answering for a right-wing moron.

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Mar 29, 2020, 3:13 PM

Yes, and if you really dig down into those stats, you will find that a lot of those people had zero protection from the flu... Ie, no flu shot. And not mostly were that young.

This is a totally different animal. No pun intended.

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Global death toll was 284,000


Mar 29, 2020, 4:25 PM [ in reply to Re: 2017/18: 80,000 Americans died of Flu; 1918/19: 50-100 Million World Wide of Flu. ]

And much less than that in the US at approx 12,500. Check your numbers.

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Yep. We did NOTHING 2 years ago. We stopped LIFE this year


Mar 28, 2020, 11:28 PM

What exactly is the difference? It sure is NOT the number of deaths.

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Saying this a matter of weeks into a new pandemic is so dumb


Mar 29, 2020, 4:27 PM

Let's see where we are a few months from now.

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Mar 30, 2020, 5:01 AM

I really doubt it. Serious/critical cases in the US are at about 3,000 right now with 2,489 deaths. Total deaths in the world are at 34,000. While the virus isn’t under control more and more people are taking it seriously and taking more precautions. I’m sure numbers will even out soon and things will start to calm down. These guys who are making the predictions are probably the same ones who say the world is gonna end this year. Always groom and doom rather than thinking about things more logically.

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