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Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
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Until York confirms it is all just rumor***
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Re: Until York confirms it is all just rumor***
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:36 AM
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Well it is all just rumors right now... and even if all this is being discussed, it could change.
But no way these schools will sit back while SEC/B1G keep renegotiating contracts 2 times before our crappy GoR expires.
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Re: Until York confirms it is all just rumor***
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:42 AM
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Seems like a stretch that the Big12 will survive over the ACC but in this new CFB world nothing really makes sense anymore.
I can see some of these happening but one thing is for sure - the ACC is sleeping at the wheel and it’s just a matter of time before we veer off into incoming traffic.
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Is that the dude who said he had inside sources saying it was done deal?
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Apr 14, 2023, 2:09 PM
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And he garnered thousands of points posting daily fictional updates?
Yeah, let's hope he "confirms'.
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Can’t be true without WF going to Conf. USA
Apr 14, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Gotta take care of everyone… 😎
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:43 AM
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but would revenue increase?***
Apr 14, 2023, 10:59 AM
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IMO, there will ultimately be (4) superconfences.
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Apr 14, 2023, 2:16 PM
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Split up in (4) conferences into two major divisions (like AFC/NFC) with playoffs to weed out teams in each side, ultimately leading to a "superbowl" of sorts. 64-80 teams to battle for the "1A" trophy. The rest of college teams will set up as needed, kind of like an NIT for remaining programs.
Probably 5 years or less, in my opinion.
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The NIT would be those meaningless/irrelevant bowl games.***
Apr 14, 2023, 2:20 PM
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Nah. Always cool to win a bowl game, regardless.***
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Apr 14, 2023, 7:15 PM
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No one cares if you win the Slack Jaw Corndog Bowl
Apr 17, 2023, 12:36 PM
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Over SW Missouri State Tech.
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Re: IMO, there will ultimately be (4) superconfences.
Apr 14, 2023, 7:19 PM
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I’m thinking 2-3 super conferences, maybe relegation being involved. Your thoughts might be right though.
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That scenario makes as much sense...
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:50 AM
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... as any of the other 20 or so scenarios (hyperbole) I've seen.
I still maintain that the B1G and SEC are not through expanding. I don't know who's going where. And, I certainly don't know when it will be announced. (Remember, I predicted Clemson and FSU to SEC would be announced before April of this year. So, clearly, I am not a prophet when it comes to conference expansion.)
It is possible that the hold up in the timing was the B1G getting a new commissioner. And, now that they have one who has extensive ties to CBS, the ball may start rolling quickly.
But, it sure looks like:
1. PAC 12 is toast.
2. ACC is toast.
3. Big 12 may survive as "3rd major conference" or, at worst "best of the rest."
4. SEC and B1G will become the bullies on the playground and each will be claiming, "We're #1."
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One thing is for sure. I will never chant SEC.***
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:57 AM
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Honestly...
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:58 AM
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the ACC deserves to be toast for putting its member institutions in a inequitable position with the ridiculous GOR agreement.
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Re: That scenario makes as much sense...
Apr 14, 2023, 10:59 AM
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Yeah I think BigXII did a decent job setting themselves up to be the 3rd conference though they took some teams in this last round that may have made them the next ACC. Had they waited, they could have been in line to be closer to what the SEC/B1G is building but with all these G5 teams they took, they look like they will be a solid but 2nd tier.
I think the top teams will come down to Fox and ESPN driving B1G and SEC into turf battles.
You know Fox wants some of the South east... almost all of the National Championships are won there.
Will the SEC let that happen or will it play defense?
I dont think it will let Clemson and FSU go to the B1G without a fight if the B1G comes calling because Clem/FSU has won 3 of the last 10 National Championships.. but we will see.
It certainly seems like there are a number of schools aligning themselves to make a move and it appears they are close to getting the numbers together to get around the GoR.
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Re: That scenario makes as much sense...
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Just a bit of information....unless the B1G drastically changes its admission requirements, only UNC, UVA, Duke and Ga. Tech would qualify. Currently a school has to be a member of the AAU to be admitted and they share in the Big Ten Consortium which controls around $1B in research funds annually.
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Re: That scenario makes as much sense...
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Apr 14, 2023, 3:48 PM
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Pitt is also AAU.
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Re: That scenario makes as much sense...
Apr 14, 2023, 3:51 PM
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True....good catch. Forgot about them.
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Re: That scenario makes as much sense...
Apr 17, 2023, 11:08 AM
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There's some speculation that the B1G has become more receptive to softening that stance ever since Nebraska was expelled from the AAU.
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There isn't going to be anything with only the former SEC and Big 12 playing for it all.
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Apr 14, 2023, 2:21 PM
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There are currently 5 power conferences. That doesn't work so well in a playoff system, so we will need to create an even number of "superconfences". 64-80 teams.
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20 years ago I had drew out the super conference concept on
Apr 17, 2023, 11:30 AM
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my office whiteboard. 128 teams at the time, so 8 16-team conferences. Made too much sense to ever happen.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
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Apr 14, 2023, 10:59 AM
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I don't see NC State going to the Big 12.
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They can go with Wake to Conference USA or the AAC.***
Apr 14, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Makes a weird sort of sense
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:04 AM
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If everybody jumps ship, then nobody has to pay to leave the ACC.
The question has always been "How does the media powers make more money?" If ESPN thought they'd make more money keeping the ACC whole, then they'd renegotiate that deal.
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Nobody wants the Dukies?
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I have no idea how accurate or reliable that is, but it's
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:14 AM
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very easy to see it playing out that way. It's obvious that the current conference structure is not sustainable going forward and that Clemson and FSU for sure are looking to get out of the ACC.
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Among others !!!!***
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I believe so too - I'm just thinking us and FSU are the most
Apr 14, 2023, 12:19 PM
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obvious and most hamstrung by being in the ACC.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:23 AM
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So this looks like the scenario playing out if it continued down this path (which of course it all could change). A few of these are listed twice in possible locations.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:37 AM
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This doesn't make much sense. Why would the SEC only go up to 18, when the Big Ten goes to 20? Why would the SEC watch the Big Ten nsje significant inroads into the southern market, and not expand their own footprint?
It would make much more sense to add NC State and Virginia Tech as well, rather than just conceding the Mid-Atlantic market to the Big Ten.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 14, 2023, 3:02 PM
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You're looking at it through the lens of some big master plan. There isn't one. I believe Sankey when says he is just taking it as it comes. The SEC doesn't give 2 cents what the B1G does as far as adding teams goes. The SEC is willing to accept teams that add value to the conference. They have absolutely nothing to prove to the B1G. Some of the southern teams clearly represent a value to the B1G from a location and footprint standpoint, that do nothing for the SEC. Outside of perhaps FSU and Clemson, the SEC wouldn't care if the B1G took every other team in the ACC.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 14, 2023, 11:45 AM
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I listened to all that "24-team superconferences" talk as far back as 15 years ago and figured it would never happen. Maybe it still won't, but there is enough rustling in the bushes to make me think it could be true in a season or two.
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Not sure why NCState and VTech
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Apr 14, 2023, 11:51 AM
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would go to the Big XII instead of the SEC in this scenario. SEC could gain NC And VA footprints to battle with B1G there. Then Big XII gets BC and Cuse.
Other than that, I could definitely see this as a possibility.
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Where do Wake and Duke end up in this plan?
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Just asking...
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Re: Where do Wake and Duke end up in this plan?
Apr 14, 2023, 2:30 PM
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They'll be bouncing ACC Commissioner Jim Philips from campus to campus giving the Bagdad Bob speech telling everyone not to panic...all is well.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 14, 2023, 1:07 PM
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This doesn't make any sense from the Big Ten's perspective.
The Big Ten would be much better off with Oregon and Washington than any of those four schools.
Maybe even Stanford and Cal makes more sense.
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Not the same guy, but equally as ridiculous.
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Apr 14, 2023, 2:07 PM
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Rather play in the CUSA than the new Big 12.
Please stop guys. Please stop being do incredibly gullible.
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If this were to happen...
Apr 14, 2023, 2:18 PM
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I think you'd see the ACC sue the SEC, the B1G, and the Big XII for collusion and tortious interference.
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Re: If this were to happen...
Apr 17, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Not if Clemson and FSU were to approach the SEC.
While UNC, UVA, GT, and Miami separately approached the Big Ten.
And then NC State and Va Tech got word of this and approached the Big XII to make sure they had a safe(ish) landing spot.
It is hard to legislate morality when there is literally billions of dollars on the line.
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Wait a minute, what the Heyall have turtles go to do with
Apr 17, 2023, 10:38 AM
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any of this? Maryland is already in the Big 10!
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Hope its true this time***
Apr 14, 2023, 2:23 PM
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 14, 2023, 3:16 PM
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I just don’t see how any of those teams make the big 10 better.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 14, 2023, 3:59 PM
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Basketball and baseball and possibly a few other small sports could possibly be an improvement, but I do not follow that much from other conference and normally catch the better teams from each conference in a post season tourney.
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I'll believe it when I see it.....***
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Complete, made up garbage click bait
Apr 17, 2023, 10:33 AM
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This guy is looking for clicks and attention. Nothing to see here.
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Re: Guy who was all over Texas/OU leaving BigXII...
Apr 17, 2023, 10:54 AM
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I think the votes would be there if eight teams got a much better deal. I don't see how Big12 is going to help an East Coast school already in a P5 though.
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Does that mean I get to silence the Vandy whistler
Apr 17, 2023, 10:58 AM
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at a baseball game?
Also, can I confiscate all of the cowbells and give them to the CU Dairy Science department?
Just asking.
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