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Trump folks: What will you do...

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:54 AM
 

If Trump softens his stance on immigration as he has hinted at doing the past couple of days? Wasn't this one of his biggest draws for you?

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Re: Trump folks: What will you do...

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:57 AM
 

Never thought it would be as extreme has he made it sound. There are limits to what he can and will do. The point is that there is a much needed focus on illegal immigration, and he's the best candidate available.

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He's still not Hillary.***

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:57 AM
 



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I don't think he'll lose many people.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 8:10 AM
 

The main, constant, argument I see is that he is not Hillary Clinton. So unless he suddenly morphs into Hillary Clinton, I don't think he'll lose many supporters.

It appears he finally realizes the only way to defeat Hillary Clinton is to persuade people in the middle to vote for him. Maybe too little, too late at this point.

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His supporters never cared about his policies anyway

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:34 PM
 

It's kind of amazing to watch him vacillate on nearly every issue while his supporters just shrug it off. Just further illustrates that his support is about an attitude and a style more than it is about anything else.


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Re: His supporters never cared about his policies anyway

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 1:51 PM
 

Wow what an incredibly ignorant statement to make.

This Trump supporter is all about his policies....immigration being one of the least important.

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How can you stand his Trade and economic policies.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:50 PM
 

Not SINGLE Republican WH economic adviser has endorsed Trump's ideas.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:56 PM
 



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Never was a draw for me. Draws: 1)

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 8:19 AM
 

HE'S NOT HILLARY!

2) He stuck it to the donor class in the primaries and Iblive him for it. We are no longer govt of, for, and by the people.

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This is just so nutty:


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:39 PM
 

1. Lots of people aren't Hillary. Literally everyone but Hillary isn't.

2. How did he stick it to the donor class? By insulting everyone who isn't Trump, which just so happens to include the "donor class"? Kind of ironic, considering Trump is, himself, a donor.

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1) Exactly. A.B.C. Hillary, OMDB 2) Did you see the debates?


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 1:03 PM
 

He called out the donors (the establishment, if you will) in front of everyone. He self-funded his primary campaign. Donor does not mean you give money. Heck, by that definition I am a donor. Donor means you are part of the entrenched political establishment, that happens to have money.

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you mean folks he's raising money from now?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:27 PM
 



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Never an issue. I knew from the get-go that deporting

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:56 AM
 

11,000,000 illegals would not be done.

What is important?

1. Border security - he will do that, Hillary will not.

2. Truth in government - he will do that, Hillary.... for God's sake.

3. Constitutional Supreme Court Justices - he will do that, Hillary will not.

4. Rebuild the economy - he will do that, Hillary will not... same old tax & spend.

5. Revitalize our military and crush ISIS - he will do that, Hillary will not




If he accomplishes those things, it will be more than has been done since Reagan.

Another thing.

I see in Trump the willingness to learn and adapt.

The latest is his position on deportation.

This willingness, I think, was what made him successful in business, and it can make him successful as a President.

Hillary, however, is bought and paid for.

She is corrupt, and always will be.

The Presidency will just enable her to go to another level of corruption.

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Re: Trump folks: What will you do...

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 10:27 AM
 

Love him and hope nudes surface. God I love that guy. The bat is lifting off the bag just thinking about him.

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Re: Trump folks: What will you do...


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 10:52 AM
 

He'll have an "R" next to his name on the ballot, so nothing will change, no matter what he says or does.

It's that simple.

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I know, right?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:25 PM
 



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That was so eloquent***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:30 PM
 



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Re: Trump folks: What will you do...


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 11:04 AM
 

Not a Trump fan but anyone with a working brain should have known from the get go that much of what he said, wouldn't be done anyway.

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Promising to start the largest humanitarian crisis in US


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:35 PM
 

history didn't affect his support, so I doubt reneging on that promise will have any effect either.

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Re: Promising to start the largest humanitarian crisis in US

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 1:54 PM
 

"the largest humanitarian crisis in US history"



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You found a humane way to deport 11 million people yet?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 1:59 PM
 



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Re: You found a humane way to deport 11 million people yet?***

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:10 PM
 

Start with student visas. Process each. Process criminal immigrants as they interact with the justice system. Purge entitlement rolls of all who cannot prove legal citizenship. Require eVerify reporting for ALL employees.

This is not hard. You've got some vision of storm troopers kicking down doors and ripping children from their mothers' arms.

That doesn't jibe with reality.

Wait. Did you really want to discuss this beyond the surface talking points?

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Tell me again how you aren't voting for Trump?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:13 PM
 



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Re: Tell me again how you aren't voting for Trump?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:14 PM
 

Get beyond the "fortune cookie" stuff and you're lost.

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That wouldn't come close to deporting 11 million people.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:20 PM
 



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Re: That wouldn't come close to deporting 11 million people.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:42 PM
 

Over 40% of illegal immigrants are here on expired visas. That's a good start.

I know: I went beyond the talking points again. Sorry.

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Re: That wouldn't come close to deporting 11 million people.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 4:06 PM
 

> Start with student visas. Process each. Process
> criminal immigrants as they interact with the justice
> system. Purge entitlement rolls of all who cannot
> prove legal citizenship. Require eVerify reporting
> for ALL employees.

What does 'Process' mean?

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Re: That wouldn't come close to deporting 11 million people.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:14 PM
 

Process them. Put them through the immigration system again. If they don't add to the national good, so to speak, send them home.

Those who are presented through the justice system? Deport them.


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And how would you round them up?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:45 PM
 



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Existing ICE personnel and local law enforcement.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 6:59 PM
 



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Who have stated they have a capacity to deport 400,000


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:03 PM
 

per year. But it's all so simple.

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i wouldn't round them up but as you come across them

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:07 PM
 

process them and send em packing

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That's a solution. However, Mr. Trump has been claiming


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:10 PM
 

since day 1 he'd deport all of them within 2 years. Saying he'd wait till they are all gone before building the wall. Says it's really simple when done correctly.

But I assume it was just more of his trademark 'sarcasm'

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and i'd also say to the people hillary had @ townhall

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:15 PM
 

meetings saying they haven't seen their husband in 6 years because he was deported
you can go to mexico and see him

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Trump's an idiot.***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:03 PM
 



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So deport 400,000.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:04 PM
 

It's a start.

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Under current law we've deported around 2.5 million since


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:12 PM
 

2009. The majority of them were convicted criminals.

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Re: Under current law we've deported around 2.5 million since


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 10:13 PM
 

Yes, under current law, which was changed to redefine deportation.

Surely you have more compelling arguments than, "Obama was great in fighting illegal immigration," don't you?


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And in 2 years no less.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:22 PM
 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-it-would-take-up-to-2-years-to-deport-millions-of-undocumented/

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Re: And in 2 years no less.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:30 PM
 

Just because the last 8 years was full of failed promises doesn't mean nobody else can get anything done....

I know why the majority of democrats don't want to deport anybody, they're scared jobs will open up and they wont have an excuse to live off the government anymore.

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Check out this libtard analysis.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:32 PM
 

https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/the-budgetary-and-economic-costs-of-addressing-unauthorized-immigration-alt/

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Re: Check out this libtard analysis.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:43 PM
 

Oh of course....and Trumps tax and economic plan would be a disaster as well....

We know for a fact Obama's policies don't work but let's continue those....

Funny the article cited a huge loss in the labor force....how many people are on welfare in this country?

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This was from a conservative think-tank, but carry on.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:50 PM
 

A majority of those on welfare are already working.

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Lutz..WE'LL RUN OUT OF PEOPLE!


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:31 PM
 

Said noone ever.

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It is hard, and it doesn't work.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:06 PM
 

The largest deportation in history was 7 million people, and it was a human rights crisis. It cannot be done cleanly.


This is not hard. You've got some vision of storm troopers kicking down doors and ripping children from their mothers' arms.


That's exactly what has happened and will happen. It's the only way to make it work.

You need to read up on the post-WW II deportation of Germans.

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Re: It is hard, and it doesn't work.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:05 PM
 

> The largest deportation in history was 7 million
> people, and it was a human rights crisis. It cannot
> be done cleanly.
>
>
> This is not hard. You've got some vision of storm
> troopers kicking down doors and ripping children from
> their mothers' arms.

>
> That's exactly what has happened and will happen.
> It's the only way to make it work.
>
No, it's not.

> You need to read up on the post-WW II deportation of
> Germans.

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There aren't that many people on the entitlement rolls

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:24 PM
 

who are not documented. Unless they are using a fake social.

The kids, on the other hand, may be, but they are already citizens.

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Sorry, meant to address some other points


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:32 PM
 

not sure e-verify is doing that much now, there are still plenty of people working SC without documentation and we've had mandatory e-verify for all employers since 2008. Criminal immigrants are already being processed if they have serious crimes, which is the reason Trump is suddenly saying he's okay with what Obama has been doing.

But the humanitarian crisis is partly in the separation of families. Kids who are citizens of the US but not the country their parents came from. Kids who were brought here very young and speak only english being sent back to countries they have no memory of because they got here at 2. Undocmented women who are abused by their undocumented spouses who have US citizen children.

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Not only that...


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:34 PM
 

But past cases of mass deportation have resulted in many incidents of "deport now, ask questions later," and the wrong people are sent away. That would happen to legal residents, but they would likely get swept away in the fervor.

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USING everify is required...


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:01 PM
 

...but an employer is prohibited from reporting findings in any meaningful way.

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Re: You found a humane way to deport 11 million people yet?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:12 PM
 

Put em on a bus and ship their ### back to the country they came from and make them come back LEGALLY....

I realize your kind don't like to follow them but we do have laws in this country.

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And how do you get 11 million of them on a bus?***


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We can ask the chinese***


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This is the problem with folks who support it.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:07 PM
 

You can't analyze this with critical, practical thinking. You think it's a simple solution. It's not, but people like you will just keep shouting it because you don't understand just how massive of operation this will be.

A deportation this size has never been attempted, and the ones that are the closest to it were disasters.

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Re: This is the problem with folks who support it.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 3:20 PM
 

I was joking with the "bus their ### back to Mexico" remark.

I realize what you're saying but screaming racism at the very thought of deportation doesn't solve anything either.....

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I didn't cry racism.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:08 PM
 

I'm saying it would be a disastrous, expensive, and immoral humanitarian crisis. It has nothing to do with race.

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Re: I didn't cry racism.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:17 PM
 

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=19869814

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Re: I didn't cry racism.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:28 PM
 

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=19870266

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Well since its never worked, there is no way we can ever


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:30 PM
 

fix our immigration of illegals.

Might as well keep on, keepin' on, huh?

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And that's exactly what I said, right?


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:32 PM
 

Oh yeah. I didn't. Why does a disagreement here always result in a hyperbolic response...?

We can and should explore other options. But a mass deportation of millions has proven to be a disaster every time.

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Re: This is the problem with folks who support it.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:16 PM
 

I support it. And I presented, what I consider, certainly, steps by which we can accomplish the enforcement of existing laws. It's not tough.

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Make it illegal to pay them, and actually enforce it.

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 2:40 PM
 

Enforce stiff penalties for anyone caught paying illegals.

We saw it defacto happen in 2007-2009.

They'll leave on their own.

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Re: Make it illegal to pay them, and actually enforce it.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:18 PM
 

It's weird. E-verify is required, but employers can't report the results.

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If we kill the reason they are here, there will be no need

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 5:24 PM
 

to deport anyone. They'll leave because there's no reason to be here--just like when the economy took a dump in 2007-2009.

Give local municipalities the ability to spot check construction sites, farms, and restaurants etc for employer documentation, and put some teeth in the punishment in the form of ridiculous fines. Give the cities and counties a peace of that action. Incentivize them to do the work the feds won't, or can't.

It won't take long before builders, farms and restaurants won't want anything to do with an illegal worker.

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Ann Coulter not happy today***

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Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 12:47 PM
 



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Not Hillary***


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Wait...he was full of crap on deportation? Shocking....


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:26 PM
 

I can't see him losing any support and it's probably a good move politically.

Most of his supporters are in the one of the following groups:

1) People that support him for not being Hillary and were smart enough to know he wasn't going to deport 11MM people.

2) People that believe whatever he says and are able to rationalize all of his BS nonsense.

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So does that make him a liar?***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:35 PM
 



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In political terms, no***


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 7:46 PM
 



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He also claimed to have met with the "top police" in Chicago


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 8:01 PM
 

Said he could end the crime there in a week.

No such meeting took place. Liar?

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Wait, have i given you the impression that I like Trump?...


Posted: Aug 26, 2016, 8:51 AM
 

or that I don't think he's FOS?

Let me clear that up then...I think he's a walking disaster and is FOS on many fronts.

I just don't think softening his position on immigration deportation is lying in political terms.

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Here's what I'd do.


Posted: Aug 25, 2016, 9:26 PM
 

I'd figure he's a liar and wants to use them to build a wall no matter what he says.

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And Hillary was against gay marriage.***


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