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UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 8:06 PM
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Is this a joke advertisement?
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 8:39 PM
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UNC has a really good MBA program. The idea that academic misconduct in the AFAM department is representative of academic misconduct throughout the entire university is naive. The people I know that were most upset about the whole UNC athletics academic issue were people who have degrees from UNC for exactly this reason.
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UNC has been, still is, and will probably always be a coveted
Jul 31, 2021, 8:52 PM
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degree. The athletic academic scandal was bad, of course. But it's really no different than the Underwater Basketweaving majors that athletes have been taking everywhere for decades. They just cut to the chase and made the whole process more efficient...
Has nothing to do with the other non-athlete students, which is 99.9% of the student body.
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Re: Of course they were upset. They were outed as frauds.***
Jul 31, 2021, 10:01 PM
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No they weren't. The AFAM department was outed as a bunch of frauds.
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 9:07 PM
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You cannot seriously believe that academic cheating went on for 3 decades in their most popular sports programs and the UNC leadership was unaware of it. Apparently it was common knowledge enough so that non-athletes were also flocking to the classes for free grades. So it is ironic UNC would use integrity to tout its program when highest levels of leadership showed none so willingly for so long so recently.
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 10:00 PM
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That's not at all what I said. What I said was that every single person I know that graduated from UNC (upwards of 30) were extremely pissed about the AFAM department. The lack of integrity was linked to a single undergrad department. UNC's MBA program is not at all indicated in any sort of academic misconduct.
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 10:12 PM
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You are missing my point. It may have been a single academic department under which the fraud was committed but the leaders of UNC had to know about it. Many students that were not athletes knew about it. It went on for 30 years. Therefore, it was not as isolated as suggested. Plus the fact that they lawyered up to wiggle out responsibility is even more telling about their so-called "integrity."
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 10:27 PM
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I have a Clemson Finance degree and a UNC MBA. My experience at UNC was on another level compared to my Clemson classes, and the UNC MBA is a top 20 program.
But I do agree, looking at the athletic/academic scandal, there is no way the administration didn't know that it was going on. At least within the athletic department, kids were intentionally pushed toward those classes and majors. One of the investigations found a presentation was delivered to the basketball coaches, if I'm remembering correctly, after one teacher or department head retired with concerns it would affect athletes now. UNC got away with years of cheating though that scandal with no punishment.
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 10:02 PM
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Yeah, these people that are defending UNC are the problem. I’m not saying jocks didn’t have it easier at CU when I was there, but it was far from organized. A couple of buddies and I got together and extended a wrestler’s career by writing papers for him, but that was bc we liked the person and wanted him around. The RICO that UNC committed over decades was totally overlooked, while The NCAA picked and chose who was shut down for lessor crimes. Reminds me of when they kept CU in the crosshairs for years, while none other than Vince Dooley was chairman of the infractions committee. Of course, this was before the Hope Scholarship, so UGA was already an academic joke and had no way to fall further - think USC today. Reel forward and you have UNC, who is so rich due to the ancestral need to sell tobacco to children, pretending to be Harvard, yet sold their academic integrity decades ago for Dean Smith, who was a nice guy in person. Throw in the 1619 author/professor scandal and you’ve got much to contort to say they are on par with institutions without these egregious violations of ethics in the very recent past. It really does matter. Otherwise, why not take Google tests and forget college? So, sorry they blew $100k on an MBA from a shady organization, but not very sorry.
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Aug 1, 2021, 9:48 AM
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It wasn't the AFAM program, it was UNC's response to it.
"To seem rather than to be."
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UNCheat only marginalized an entire race of people and
Jul 31, 2021, 8:53 PM
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their history with the no show classes. I’m sure their MBA program is demanding and rigorous.
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unless u play the basketball***
Jul 31, 2021, 9:43 PM
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Re: UNC MBA: don’t compromise integrity
Jul 31, 2021, 9:53 PM
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No limit to where this degree will take you. Remember the roof is the ceiling"
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