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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Slavery, Rodney King and the McRib***
Nov 5, 2012, 2:54 PM
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110%er [9096]
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big bird***
Nov 5, 2012, 3:26 PM
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CU Medallion [56087]
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Actually, I think it's the voters who are supposed to get
Nov 5, 2012, 2:55 PM
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revenge.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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for what?***
Nov 5, 2012, 2:56 PM
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CU Medallion [73569]
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for Romney destroying the country.
Nov 5, 2012, 2:57 PM
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oh wait, that was Barry. sorry
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CU Medallion [56087]
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I guess for whatever crap Romney said.
Nov 5, 2012, 3:00 PM
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Instead of booing or being angry, go vote.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I guess it's true what they say...
Nov 5, 2012, 3:01 PM
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"truth hurts"
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Legend [18334]
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Truth? From Romney? Come on Franc
Nov 5, 2012, 5:48 PM
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Now THAT would be some hope and change
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Heisman Winner [111599]
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Re: Truth? From Romney? Come on Franc
Nov 5, 2012, 6:11 PM
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fortunately the angry, dumb electorate is concentrated into 6-7 states that Democrats don't have to bother with.
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Re: Truth? From Romney? Come on Franc
Nov 5, 2012, 9:06 PM
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I beg to differ.
And lets not forget the obamaphone lady. There are plenty like her that would fit your description.
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amazing someone could get re-elected on such a campaign
Nov 5, 2012, 3:11 PM
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does anybody have any idea about Obama's second term agenda? I haven't heard a single thing about it. I'm not sure if that's just a sign masteful campaigning or a public that's more concerned with a candidate's personality and wealth than his platform.
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have you not seen the brochure....ITS IN GLOSSY COLOR!***
Nov 5, 2012, 3:12 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Clinton's speech was just another attack on Romney
Nov 5, 2012, 4:13 PM
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both Clinton and Powell simply assert that we'll be better off sticking with whatever it is Obama wants to do rather than detailing any plans Obama has to improve on his first term. It ought to be clear that Obama's first term was less than a success, so what is the substance on which we're supposed to vote for Obama? Just that we know he's reliably liberal? That he doesn't suck as much as the Obama campaign says Romney sucks? It's sad.
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CU Medallion [56087]
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I think it's hilarious that people think that
Nov 5, 2012, 3:18 PM
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"revenge" comment is a big deal. Or a small deal. In fact I can't believe anyone gives a #### of any kind.
It's also telling that the "revenge" comment resonated with you, but all the things Obama has said he'll do in his second term has somehow not sunk in. I guess our brains just automatically hone in on whatever we think is important -- whether it is or not -- and shitcans the rest.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I've heard what he said he is going to do....
Nov 5, 2012, 3:20 PM
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what evidence is there to support he will? Certainly not what he did the first four years.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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or raise the cost of energy substantially...
Nov 5, 2012, 3:32 PM
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another promise he kept (but now is troubled by it because it hurts his reelection campaign.
How about the "one term" proposition of reducing the deficit?
Unemployment will not go above 8%?
As far as health care reform, do you really believe this is what people were wanting? Probably the most divisive thing he has done. People wanted their health care costs to go down. Instead they have risen SIGNIFICANTLY and we are now enjoying a brand new tax.
He never promised to kill Bin Laden.
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CU Medallion [56087]
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bin Laden
Nov 5, 2012, 3:43 PM
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“What I have said is we're going encourage democracy in Pakistan, expand our non-military aid to Pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants. And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”
On the deficit and unemployment, you're right.
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Re: or raise the cost of energy substantially...
Nov 5, 2012, 4:18 PM
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franc, you are a day late and a dollar short.
and I realize you have a difficult time being factual, seeing that you believe in talking snakes and all, but Obama did in fact say that if he were given the opportunity, he would hunt down Bin Laden. Read the transcript and leave the fear campaigning to the Mormon.
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110%er [8142]
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Lol, you may not have liked it, but as for completing...
Nov 5, 2012, 3:29 PM
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... campaign promises, he's done considerably better than most. He said he'd pass health care reform, a HUGE promise, which he fulflled completely. He said he'd end the war in Iraq, another biggie which he accomplished. Pursue Al Quaida into Pakistan and bring Bin Laden to justice? Check. Has he done everything he said he would do? Of course not. Nor has any other president in history. But pretending he's done nothing he said he would do is silly.
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the seas didn't stop rising, for one
Nov 5, 2012, 4:24 PM
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I think for some of us (who never liked Obama to begin with) the huge, world-changing, promises made by Obama (or, if not by Obama, then by his campaign) were really irksome. When he turned out to be rather divisive and doctrinaire, and when his major legislative accomplishment turned out to be unpopular, and when the economy didn't improve, we were tempted to say "I told you so." I, for one, would've preferred as a Democratic president the less ideologial Hillary Clinton about whom there could've been none of the near- messianic fervor there was (and still is, to a lesser extent) around Obama.
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110%er [8142]
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Does it matter whether he actually said that or not?
Nov 5, 2012, 4:47 PM
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It's easy to make up crazy things and lie about them. Name me some actual promises made by Obama that he didn't at least try to follow up on? And as long as we're talking divisive and doctrinaire, maybe you could name a Republican who was willing to talk to him about anything the first four years? Just one?
I personally think he's been just OK, and that he's the lesser of the two evils that have a chance to win. But it is the right wing that made up many of these so-called goals they knew he could not meet. You people have convinced yourselves of a lot of things, but Hillary Clinton less idealogical than Obama? There's no evidence for that.
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110%er [8142]
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You may have to wait a while to see if that one is a lie.
Nov 5, 2012, 5:11 PM
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He said it was the moment we started to change. You do realize it will take a generation at least to know whether it was or not, right?
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I didn't claim it was a lie
Nov 5, 2012, 5:14 PM
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only that self-drunk rhetoric like that was irksome to quite a few Republicans, who are now trying to resist the temptation to gloat over Obama's transformation into a conventional, doctrinaire, politician.
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110%er [8142]
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Why in the world would self-drunk rhetoric...
Nov 5, 2012, 5:21 PM
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... offend Republicans???? That's flat-out laughable.
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it should offend everybody
Nov 5, 2012, 6:26 PM
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I'm not sure I've ever heard that kind of stuff being said about, and by, another politician.
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it isn't a big deal at all
Nov 5, 2012, 4:15 PM
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but it is indicative of the way Obama has campaigned this time around. I haven't heard Obama say he would do a single thing that he hasn't already been talking about the last four years. Heck, he's blamed Republicans for the fact he hasn't already done a lot of this stuff even though Dems. had majorities in Congress and a super-majority in the Senate.
I'll also say that a lot of Republicans feel that high-level Democrats get away with this kind of stuff much more easily than Republicans do. I'm not completely sure that's true, but I also don't think the 2012 Obama campaign has been covered like the nasty partisan affair that it has been.
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Rock Defender [53]
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lmao ... liberal dictionary .... no big deal = anything that
Nov 5, 2012, 8:23 PM
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can cripple a campaign that the press would crucify a republican over, but a dem can survive because the media is in the bag for dems like Clinton & Obama.
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Re: amazing someone could get re-elected on such a campaign
Nov 5, 2012, 4:35 PM
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I'm sure it's very similar to Romney's initial agenda, or his revised agenda, or his corrected or his amended agenda, or his October agenda, or his November agenda....
> does anybody have any idea about Obama's second term > agenda? I haven't heard a single thing about it. I'm > not sure if that's just a sign masteful campaigning > or a public that's more concerned with a candidate's > personality and wealth than his platform.
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which parts of his agenda have changed?***
Nov 5, 2012, 4:53 PM
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Make no mistake,
Nov 5, 2012, 3:47 PM
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it's not revenge he's after. It's a reckonin'.
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Re: In reference to your HEALTHCARE
Nov 5, 2012, 4:14 PM
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My wife has been working in the healthcare field for over 15 years. The cuts that are about to come down are HUGE. Over the last three years, every year, she has had meetings to cover the cuts that have been enacted each year. The cuts are at the point to where hours have been cut and employees are not being replaced when they leave because their hours have been cut. People don't realize because it has been a slow raise, but each year, peoples amount of out of pocket expense is going up.
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revenge on greedy corporations stealing money that
Nov 5, 2012, 6:22 PM
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we deserve
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110%er [6101]
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Obama has TWO CEO's on his economic advisory board
Nov 5, 2012, 9:16 PM
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that run corporations that pay ZERO tax. EXXON and GOOGLE.
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