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The game was lost long before the technical foul
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The game was lost long before the technical foul


Nov 21, 2021, 7:30 PM

Players not able to execute against an overextended defense cause their minds were blown apparently. Shame on them.

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True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 7:54 PM

Instead of canning him yrs ago

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 8:12 PM

WHY does teams from West Virginia or New York or other places hundreds of miles away pack gyms to see their teams play. None in this tourney are high profile teams.
I cant recall seeing more than a dozen Tiger fans on tv. That is much more disgraceful than the coach none of you support. If you are Clemson you GO to these games. That is what Clemson men do! It’s easier to get on the internet and show your support I guess.

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 8:22 PM

Were you there?

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 8:32 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

Cause we suck. Period was you there NO. Because we suck

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Exactly.


Nov 21, 2021, 8:39 PM

Who wants to watch completely incompetent coaching in person?

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 8:47 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

I assure you that if I lived within an hour or two drive to Charleston I WOULD have been at every game and I’m 80 years old. With the exception of a few games in 2017 after a horrendous car crash I can’t remember the last football game that I missed in DV. And I live 180 miles from Clemson South Carolina. Not an easy trip for a youngster. I was there Saturday. We’re you.? I came alone too.

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No, I wasn't.


Nov 21, 2021, 8:49 PM

I am not a masochist.

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Re: No, I wasn't.


Nov 21, 2021, 8:56 PM

I never feel any emotional pain when I’m at Clemson. Do you?

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We don’t suck.


Nov 21, 2021, 9:55 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

You’re clueless if you think that.

Please stick with football.

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We don't suck. I think we have a very good...


Nov 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

...team overall. But we have had some incredible moments late in the second halves that defy explanation. To put it nicely.

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I'm sorry sir, but that's the thing..


Nov 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

We, "have had some incredible moments late in the second halves that defy explanation"

Yeah, most all of the tenure of Coach Brownell. Countless losses late in games. It's a large sample size that leads one to believe it will continue to happen again and again. I like Brad and want him to succeed, I really do, but this has to be the last chance to get over the hump.

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Forest, I'm sure you mean well. But you are a heck of a...


Nov 21, 2021, 9:52 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

...lot closer to Charleston than those fans from New York or West Virginia. So, why weren't you there? Football game? Ok. Same as many of us. Maybe you should tone down your rhetoric and stop castigating fans for not showing up to an early season tournament that you didn't attend yourself. And while we're at it, stop dumping on DJ ad nauseam. It's not becoming of a Tiger Gentleman.

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 9:57 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

Did you go

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Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension


Nov 21, 2021, 10:02 PM [ in reply to Re: True, lost when we signed bb to extension ]

Why does Duke fans pack the gym but none go to their football games? Same reason Clemson fans pack the stadium but not the gym. There was a time in the past under Prenell, Barnes, and Ellis our gym was noisy and packed. It’s about the product man. If Brownell starts winning these kind of games instead of losing them then the gym will start to fill up.

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That’s a ridiculous comparison because Duke football isn’t competitive.


Nov 21, 2021, 10:31 PM

Clemson basketball is.

We finished in the top third of the ACC last year. We made the NCAA Tournament.

We’ve played two excellent teams with winning programs super close this weekend. We are right there.

And you and others say we are boring?

Our team plays their tails off. They consistently go toe to toe with programs with much more history than we have. Teams we should be getting blown out by. But we hang in there and win a lot more than we should.

I don’t understand why a fan couldn’t get behind a team and program like that. Playing hard, punching above their weight class. That’s inspiring to me.

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Duke football has won 7 ACC championships...


Nov 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

and a division title in 2013.

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Oof


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Re: Oof


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We are talking about Brownell’s tenure.


Nov 21, 2021, 11:16 PM [ in reply to Duke football has won 7 ACC championships... ]

During that time, Duke football is 65-73 (.471).

Clemson basketball under Brad is 205-152 (.574).

Is this really the hill you want to die on?

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I don't think he meant Clemson basketball sucks as much as


Nov 21, 2021, 10:51 PM [ in reply to That’s a ridiculous comparison because Duke football isn’t competitive. ]

Duke football.

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Re: That’s a ridiculous comparison because Duke football isn’t competitive.


Nov 21, 2021, 10:58 PM [ in reply to That’s a ridiculous comparison because Duke football isn’t competitive. ]

There is no reason Baylor can be as successful as they are and Clemson cannot. Sorry it’s as simple as that. We deserve better, those of us that are actually invested and care about the program. Sounds like you’re settling

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"Punching above our weight class"?


Nov 21, 2021, 11:04 PM [ in reply to That’s a ridiculous comparison because Duke football isn’t competitive. ]

See, now that mentality is incorrect. Clemson basketball has shown it can succeed at a high level when the right coach is in place.

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When has Clemson basketball achieved at a higher level than Brad has?


Nov 21, 2021, 11:24 PM

No coach has more wins at Clemson. No coach has a better conference record. No coach has a better graduation rate.

I appreciate the success that prior coaches such as Bill Foster, Cliff Ellis, Rick Barnes, and Oliver Purnell had. They gave us some exciting moments. But none of them showed that they were capable of building a consistent winner. Perhaps if Barnes or Purnell had wanted to stay, they would’ve built a consistent winner. But they didn’t.

Brownell certainly isn’t perfect, but it’s time our fans stop overrating previous coaches and underrating our current one.

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Re: When has Clemson basketball achieved at a higher level than Brad has?


Nov 22, 2021, 12:23 AM

At the end of the day I just don’t think he’s getting enough out of our program, situation or fanbase. Agree to disagree. OP would’ve had the same records Brad does based on longevity

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They were apparently surprised by the pressure since they


Nov 21, 2021, 8:51 PM

had no idea how to deal with it.

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Maybe Clemson should hire a basketball coach that can


Nov 21, 2021, 8:56 PM

teach the players how to deal with pressure and late game situations. No, that's just crazy talk.

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Re: Maybe Clemson should hire a basketball coach that can


Nov 21, 2021, 9:00 PM

Oh they are taught for sure. The biggest flaw to me is lack of movement by players without the ball. This roster has some good talent. Maybe this is the year.


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Re: They were apparently surprised by the pressure since they


Nov 21, 2021, 10:07 PM [ in reply to They were apparently surprised by the pressure since they ]

The players could not handle the pressure because the coach could not. You respond as your coach does. If your coach does not know what to do the players pick up on it quick and respond in like manner .

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Re: The game was lost long before the technical foul


Nov 21, 2021, 10:58 PM

It seemed like two different teams again tonight. One team was aggressive almost to the point of reckless on offense and it fed the energy on defense. The second half we seemed to be trying to take the air out of the ball and run the shot clock under 10 before initiating offense. WV recognized that and turned up the pressure and our guys didn’t get aggressive and make them pay for overextending.

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We ran out of juice tonight.


Nov 21, 2021, 11:27 PM

The virus has really impacted our team. I think that has something to do with it.

In hindsight, we probably should’ve kept our foot on the gas pedal. WVU made good adjustments with their press.

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Re: The game was lost long before the technical foul


Nov 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

Huggy Bear outcoach Brownell which is the norm. With an extension I still can't figure out, this is the year to say bye bye as his buyout will be at its lowest level.

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