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Tony Elliott at Virginia
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Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 10:32 AM

Looks like Tony Elliott is going to have to walk a fine line between being a Christian and being Woke over there at UVA. There is an article out on the ESPN website about him and it seems like there is a very strong 'Progressive' conformity attitude in the athletic department and the university in general (I know, 'oh the shock of it all!'). I hope he does well, but he will have to thread the needle on this, I believe, or he won't be long for old Virginny.

Still, it is a good read. Sorry, I tried to link the article, but I am old, so... :0)

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 10:37 AM



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There's something in these hills.


Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 10:40 AM

Tony Bennett has survived at UVA--Tony E. will, as well.

https://sportsspectrum.com/sport/basketball/2018/03/15/virginia-coach-tony-bennett-says-his-faith-in-christ-is-the-greatest-truth-i-know/


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"It is not part of a true culture to tame tigers any more than it is to make sheep ferocious."
--Henry David Thoreau


Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 10:40 AM

The woke scourge is strong at UVA. Unfortunately there is no mask or vaccine available which will protect against its destruction.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 10:45 AM

Yep, I have relatives in the area and they are strong liberals and WOKE people. Difficult to be around them and their unbelievable thoughts and ideas.

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I am afraid it is true. Living here in Virginny, UVA is


Aug 22, 2022, 10:58 AM

probably the Wokest of them all. They love their status as a "public Ivy" and are super Woke. And don't get me started on what they are doing across the street at Monticello. My daughter is a senior and UVA is #2 on her wish list of schools. On EVERY college tour these days there is a Woke talk and they go to great pains to acknowledge the enslaved people who built or worked at the college/university. TBF, UVA does have one of the better memorials to the enslaved people. But overall, I think TE will be fine for now.

https://slavery.virginia.edu/memorial-for-enslaved-laborers/#:~:text=The%20Memorial%20to%20Enslaved%20Laborers,built%20and%20maintained%20the%20University
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If he does a good job and wins football games


Aug 22, 2022, 11:02 AM

then it won't be an issue.

This is assuming that he will be proud of his beliefs without forcing them on others. As we know, there will be a greater degree of scrutiny since UVA is a public school.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


^^^ This ^^^ ... If Dabo weren’t winning and winning big


Aug 22, 2022, 11:13 AM

his strong beliefs would be under much greater scrutiny and criticism by Clemson fans.

His success grants him the freedom to express himself honestly without having to worry about negative reaction.

He doesn’t care about negative criticism, because he’s sincere and his sincerity is contagious.

And if we look at comments by many of his best recruits, his faith-based culture is a major reason why they want to play for Clemson and why parents are so thrilled to leave their sons at Clemson under Dabo’s watch.

Can Tony Elliott enjoy this same environment at UVA. Can Brent Venables make it work at Oklahoma?

Time will tell ... but, mostly winning will be the deciding factor.

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Tommy Bowden proved this isn't true***


Aug 22, 2022, 11:15 AM



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I must have missed the National Titles and 10-win seasons


Aug 22, 2022, 11:30 AM

we had under Tommy Bowden.

Can you provide a link to them?

But to your point (and to mine) we got lots of really good players during Bowdens tenure because of the culture. But, all those good players still provided mediocre results on the field.

That was the problem with Tommy Bowden. He didn’t win enough. If he had, he’d still be head coach at Clemson.

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Re: ^^^ This ^^^ ... If Dabo weren’t winning and winning big


Aug 22, 2022, 11:55 AM [ in reply to ^^^ This ^^^ ... If Dabo weren’t winning and winning big ]

Clemson Fans wouldn't connect those two things.

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Sure they would ... a fair minority of Tiger fans tolerate


Aug 22, 2022, 4:08 PM

Dabo’s faith-based culture only because he wins and wins a lot. Their opinion just gets squashed on TNet because Dabo is winning.

A coach has to win big in order to be able to express the sort of philosophy and world view that Dabo espouses.

A loser gets very little latitude.

Fortunately for Dabo, his sincere beliefs have also provided a winning formula for attracting and holding on to the right coaches and the best players.

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He needs to worry about these folks more


Aug 22, 2022, 11:03 AM



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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 11:07 AM

If anyone was woke, it was Jesus.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 11:13 AM

We have a religious forum Phan.Oh, I doubt that you would fit in. But God
doesn't bother with the politics of this world.

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His word would disagree with your opinion about God dealing


Aug 22, 2022, 11:23 AM

with the "politics of this world". His sovereignty covers all and as His people, we should probably follow His lead so to speak.

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You may want to reread your Bible...


Aug 22, 2022, 11:13 AM [ in reply to Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia ]

He came to save the lost, not affirm them.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 11:22 AM [ in reply to Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia ]

Lest we forget that Jesus made a whip out of cords and ran out all the people selling livestock and scattered the money changers coins and turned over their tables. He told them to clear out and respect his Father's House!!

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Jesus had many beautiful refrains


Aug 22, 2022, 11:41 AM

But he didn't care too much for the rich or money worshippers. The meek shall inherit the Earth, remember?

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Re: Jesus had many beautiful refrains


Aug 22, 2022, 4:18 PM

He also said I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Can you say this??

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Re: Jesus had many beautiful refrains


Aug 22, 2022, 4:37 PM

He also healed the sick and believed in taking care of the poor. What a libtard, huh?

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Aug 22, 2022, 1:09 PM [ in reply to Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia ]

he also looked more like someone that would get "randomly" flagged at airport security than what you see in the churches

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 11:11 AM

Coach Elliott secured a lot of goodwill in Charlottesville by hiring Chris Slade, former UVA All-American as DE's coach. Slade left Pace Academy in Atlanta where he had been head coach for 8 years or so and won a state championship in 2015.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 11:18 AM

Can you copy and paste the URL (hyperlink not necessary) so we can see what is being done at UVA that is in conflict with the teachings of Jesus?

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 12:08 PM

I’ll be completely honest on this……It’s extremely rare for me to take advice from people that are 35-40 years younger than me. I trust my extra 4 decades of experience over what they’ve read in the last 5 years.

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UVA and Charlottesville are very beautiful places. They are


Aug 22, 2022, 1:18 PM

also very intolerant places.

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Just remember and don't forget, Virginity is for Lovers.


Aug 22, 2022, 1:23 PM

Or, something like that.

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Bobo's***


Aug 22, 2022, 1:38 PM



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"something in these hills..." -joe sherman


Yes, UVa is full of misfits, malcontents and ...


Aug 22, 2022, 1:44 PM

counter-culture wannabees ...

I know, I live in Virginia and have been on the UVa Campus a lot. Makes Times Square look normal.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 1:46 PM

Thoughtful said:

Looks like Tony Elliott is going to have to walk a fine line between being a Christian and being Woke over there at UVA. There is an article out on the ESPN website about him and it seems like there is a very strong 'Progressive' conformity attitude in the athletic department and the university in general (I know, 'oh the shock of it all!'). I hope he does well, but he will have to thread the needle on this, I believe, or he won't be long for old Virginny.

Still, it is a good read. Sorry, I tried to link the article, but I am old, so... :0)


You can be a Christian and support equal rights for everyone and loving thy neighbor even if you don’t agree with them politically. It’s actually a large part of being Christian. That is of course if you’re the kind of Christian that follows the teachings of the Bible.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 2:02 PM

Being woke is not about supporting equal rights for everyone. Never was.

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Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 4:23 PM

Thoughtful said:

Being woke is not about supporting equal rights for everyone. Never was.


Please enlighten me.

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shame what the whole state of va has become


Aug 22, 2022, 1:51 PM

read up on alexandria school board how they covered up a rape in a bathroom at a school simply because the "girl" who did the rape was trans

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Re: shame what the whole state of va has become


Aug 22, 2022, 4:46 PM

Like all states, Virginia has its problems. Fortunately, the bad things that catch the headlines are not representative of most of the state. Events like this one in Alexandria, and others in Loudoun County played a role in the Dems losing seats in the state legislature and governor in 2021.

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Sometimes the road to the truth is so elusive it's confusing and reality becomes illusion.


Re: Tony Elliott at Virginia


Aug 22, 2022, 6:08 PM

Everybody loves Tony E.

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