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Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 9:30 AM
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Ouch.
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ok.. it is a bunch of things
Oct 15, 2021, 9:41 AM
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it is hard to win a football game. a lot of things have to come together.
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Tnet has narrowed it down to this single issue...
Oct 15, 2021, 9:51 AM
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1) Tony Elliott play calling
2) DJ
3) Not using the portal
4) Nepotism
5) Jeff Scott leaving
6) Too many walk ons getting scholarships
7) Player development
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this looks like a list.. is this a list?***
Oct 15, 2021, 9:52 AM
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 9:43 AM
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Miami is the most telling on that list... how in the world have they been able to continue to recruit at a relatively high level with the product they have put on the field the last decade +. Now that is coaching malpractice, off years happen--11-2 is still on the table for us, and that's not a bad "down year", even Bama has 2 of those years in the last decade.
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 4:45 PM
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If we can win 10 games I will be a happy 74 year old man and dance in the street in front of my home
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shotgun formation in the end zone***
Oct 15, 2021, 9:46 AM
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Re: shotgun formation in the end zone***
Oct 15, 2021, 4:31 PM
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Shot gun formation 4-1 & 3-1 too.
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 9:53 AM
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What is "coaching"? Is it the same as "Clemonsing"?
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 3:35 PM
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It’s the lack thereof ..and player development.
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we were one play away***
Oct 15, 2021, 10:41 AM
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 10:54 AM
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Tell me fans are irrational and/or ignorant without telling me fans are irrational and/or ignorant
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 1:00 PM
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13 years
2009 Atlantic division champs
2010 6-7
2011. 10-3 ACC Champs
2012 11-2
2013 11-3
2014 10-3
2015 14-1 ( player for NC)
2016. 14-1 Nationa Champs
2017 13-2 ( play offs)
2018 15-0. ( National Champs)
2019 14-1 played for NC
2020 10-2 ( Covid). Play offs
Oh yeah it is COACHING
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110%er [6858]
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Such an empty, superficial, lazy take
Oct 15, 2021, 1:25 PM
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Do you work for CNN by chance?
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Re: Such an empty, superficial, lazy take
Oct 15, 2021, 1:36 PM
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If your replying to me wow! Your the woke spoiled CNN guy.. good grief..
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1965 - wow dude
Oct 15, 2021, 2:27 PM
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Im woke? Ok Mr Dont Question The Masters, just fall in line, we are smarter than you! Good luck to ya fella.
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Re: 1965 - wow dude
Oct 15, 2021, 2:32 PM
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Re: Not sure how collecting and presenting facts is lazy?***
Oct 15, 2021, 2:26 PM
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What facts? Our record? Wow thats really diving deep! LOL. Some of you people have the mental capacity of a chihuahua. We have gotten progressively worse offensively sense 2018. Guess what happened? Jeff Scott left. Play book hasnt changed since. Opposing coaches and players will tell you as much since you dont believe the "armchair quarterbacks" here. Already posted a stat about how absurdly much more talent we have than ANYONE else in the league. Let alone GT, NCST, Wake, and Cuse. Funny thing about having NFL 1st round talent on your roster is that you can call stupid plays and they work against 2* defenses.
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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So posting facts about talent is relevant...
Oct 15, 2021, 2:35 PM
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but posting facts about our record is irrelevant?
And it's not that I don't believe you, I just think you are falling victim to simplism. And I don't think it's intentional.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/simplism Definition of simplism | Dictionary.com Simplism definition, exaggerated simplicity, as in concentrating on a single aspect or factor of a problem or situation while disregarding others; oversimplification: The senator is given to simplism in dealing with international issues. See more.
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110%er [6858]
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Its more complex and analytical to say "lack of execution"?
Oct 15, 2021, 2:38 PM
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than to look at whats possibly causing this "lack of execution" Got it.
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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Ok...
Oct 15, 2021, 2:50 PM
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You don't have all the information, but you have the solution, it's "lack of execution" and that's 100% on Tony Elliott. Tony Elliott is 100% the problem. I understand. There is no need to discuss it further.
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110%er [6858]
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Well, for starters
Oct 15, 2021, 3:21 PM
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Im not the one saying lack of execution. But if that WERE the case, then what? You just going to throw all 11 offensive starters under the bus? Maybe the QB....toss ole DJ right up under there! Maybe its the lazy receivers that wont get open or run the right routes, run them over too! Or that worthless OLine! Those bums! Gimme a break, thats a total cop out!
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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So is the problem Tony Elliott or not?
Oct 15, 2021, 3:25 PM
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Please make up your mind. Just clearly and succinctly tell me what the problem is. And if you don’t know, that’s fine too, just say it. I need to move on from this.
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Yes.***
Oct 15, 2021, 3:28 PM
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Yes, Tony Elliott is 100% the problem?
Oct 15, 2021, 3:29 PM
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I need to be sure I understand correctly.
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Not going to commit?
Oct 15, 2021, 3:42 PM
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You were so sure up until now. I get it though, never easy to figure these things out.
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Where specifically did i blame player execution in this thread?***
Oct 15, 2021, 3:41 PM
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In that handy link I provided.***
Oct 15, 2021, 3:43 PM
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110%er [6858]
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You linked me to the entire thread
Oct 15, 2021, 3:48 PM
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Which im already keenly aware of, thanks.
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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Incorrect…
Oct 15, 2021, 3:49 PM
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Click the link and it will take you to your post.
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110%er [6858]
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I didnt, and it didnt. Dont know what to tell ya
Oct 15, 2021, 4:02 PM
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Just cut and paste....
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We're getting sidetracked...
Oct 15, 2021, 4:05 PM
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Please just confirm that Tony Elliott is the problem in the above post, or back off of that, either way, just be clear.
Thanks.
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110%er [6858]
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Ive been pretty clear, repeatedly, across multiple threads
Oct 15, 2021, 4:10 PM
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And said "coaching" and singled out Tony on occasion. There are other coaches to be included in this offensive catastrophe (specifically Caldwell) but he is "the guy" when all is said and done.
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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SO IS TONY ELLIOTT THE PROBLEM?
Oct 15, 2021, 4:16 PM
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WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO ANSWER. YES, HE IS or NO, HE IS NOT?
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110%er [6858]
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You may have some sort of mental disorder
Oct 15, 2021, 4:18 PM
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Im rapidly coming around to that assessment. Ive said both YES, which wasnt clear enough. Ive said, Ive been pretty clear, which wasnt good enough. Ive said he is the guy, which wasnt clear enough. Im at a loss.
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Heisman Winner [139883]
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You've resorted to personal attacks several times...
Oct 15, 2021, 4:36 PM
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I have not done that. You had not answered the question directly/clearly until this point, not sure why, but you finally did. You assume I have read other posts of yours on the matter, not sure why. You feel you know exactly who the problem is, and that's great, you have an opinion on it. I just find it curious when people are so adamant they have a solution to a problem when they don't have all the facts, but that's just me. That's not to say you're wrong, just saying it's interesting to me.
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110%er [6858]
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I do not assume
Oct 15, 2021, 4:49 PM
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I know factually because you have responded to several of them.
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If you would provide a link, that would be great...
Oct 15, 2021, 5:02 PM
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I do not remember responding directly to a post in another thread where you said Tony Elliott was our problem, but if I did, you’ll have my apology for asking you to repeat yourself. But you understand I will need the link prior to my apology.
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Ok, I’ll keep waiting.***
Oct 15, 2021, 5:35 PM
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Re: Ok...
Oct 15, 2021, 3:38 PM
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But .. unfortunately the opinion that matters thinks he’s “ brilliant” ..
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All-American [581]
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He was highly accurate, succinct, and irrefutably shown the
Oct 15, 2021, 3:31 PM
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coaching to be elite.
What is your basis for your opinion... 5 games??
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110%er [6858]
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Basis is the last three years, at minimum
Oct 15, 2021, 4:06 PM
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So youre going to tell me our offensive scheme was just so cutting edge and mind boggling that defenses just simply could not do anything with it? Or was it maybe that we have had 1st round NFL talent running it until now? You or I could have called plays that "worked" against ACC defenses over the past several years.
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You could not have called plays that would have worked.
Oct 15, 2021, 4:07 PM
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There is no doubt in my mind about this. Final answer.
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110%er [6858]
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Remember that cheesy quote you so succinctly posted earlier
Oct 15, 2021, 4:16 PM
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Yea, I think youre experiencing that "superiority" complex right about now. And hey, if that helps you have a good day, then good on ya.
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I'm sticking with my answer.***
Oct 15, 2021, 4:18 PM
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And I with mine. Yay team.***
Oct 15, 2021, 4:19 PM
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Um, we have what, 6 ACC titles in a row to go along with 6
Oct 15, 2021, 3:28 PM
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straight playoffs and top 4 finishes with 2 national championships? Is that coaching or just dumb luck?
5 games where execution is the CLEAR issue, that doesn't outweigh 6 years. The coaching that brought us this unprecedented success hasn't changed.
So no, it's not coaching. We need to execute, and things will be fine.
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LOL
Oct 15, 2021, 3:32 PM
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So why are we not executing, here half way through the season? Do our guys just suck?
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All-American [581]
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Two words.
Oct 15, 2021, 3:44 PM
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Mental block.
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110%er [6858]
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You call it mental block, i call it
Oct 15, 2021, 3:46 PM
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Coaching not putting them in a position to be consistently successful.
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Well there you go.. you pinpointed where you're failing.
Oct 15, 2021, 3:54 PM
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Players ARE in the right spots... getting the ball there has been the primary issue.
The offense was #10 in the country and the passing game was #6 last year. Same offense.
Last year DJ hit the mark on 67% of his passes, and he set home and away records. The passing offense functioned great last year when DJ played. This year it's down to 54%, and after 5 games he has yet to hit his passing yardage of two games and mop-up duty last year.
Has the coaching and playcalling changed, or has the execution changed?
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So youre blaming DJ for this whole mess
Oct 15, 2021, 4:40 PM
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Ok, if it were that simple, he likely would be riding the pine by now. Sure you can say he is still the best option, but at what point do you say, sheesh, we at least got to give Taisun a shot.
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Re: Tell me its coaching without saying its coaching
Oct 15, 2021, 3:48 PM
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They ran a defense we did not practice against us. Our qb can’t go under center.
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Oculus Spirit [76759]
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Pretty sure you
Oct 15, 2021, 4:35 PM
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meant to post this on Tik Tok, Moran.
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110%er [6858]
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on neat, you spelled it "moran"
Oct 15, 2021, 4:41 PM
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How novel!
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Oculus Spirit [76759]
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Yes, I did. Thanks for noticing. Thanks also
Oct 15, 2021, 4:51 PM
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for this thread. Francis Marion® couldn’t have done a better job exemplifying how hollow and devoid of cognitive thought your OP is. Sadly, he didn’t even have to exert any effort.
Rest well knowing many of us have gotten a great laugh at your expense. Again, thank you.
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Aww, look, another half-wit with a superiority complex
Oct 15, 2021, 4:53 PM
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I know nothing but you know all. Got it. Have a nice weekend.
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Oculus Spirit [76759]
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You’re not helping your case
Oct 15, 2021, 5:01 PM
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with defensive insults. You made the statement. You’re willing to die on that hill so don’t get twisted when others use facts to question your position.
Neither FM nor I said you know nothing and we know everything. He stated you aren’t objective because you have no facts. You, however, made blanket statements you can’t substantiate and got called out for it.
Now, you realize you were owned and have chosen to be defensive and dismissive. Do you bruh, but it may not help you get laid. Just sayin.
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110%er [6858]
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Wow......
Oct 15, 2021, 5:09 PM
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Im not going to rehash them here, but I most certainly have provided plenty of data to my claim. What have you done other than make some arcane reference to tik tok and misspelled insults? Might want to take some windex to that mirror.
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Oculus Spirit [76759]
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So you are privy to information
Oct 15, 2021, 5:17 PM
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only the coaches and players have to support your argument? Just a heads’ up, that’s a rhetorical question. I already know the answer, which tanks your OP.
What have I done? What did I claim I have done to prompt the question?
I’ll help you on the Tik Tok reference since you are either playing coy or you really don’t know. It’s a trend on the Tik Tok app to ask a question, “tell me blank without telling me blank.” It’s stale, it’s overplayed and it’s what people with nothing better to say use when attempting to illustrate their point.
Moran. It’s a Tigernet reference used in jest after a poster misspelled moron.
Again, you aren’t helping your argument with theses haymaker whiffs you are returning. Best just to admit you were owned and learn from it.
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owned? Cool retort......if it were 2012
Oct 15, 2021, 5:22 PM
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You type a lot of words yet say nothing.
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Oculus Spirit [76759]
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Again,
Oct 15, 2021, 5:30 PM
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You should take the advice, but it’s interesting how you’ve completely abandoned your argument to attempt to discredit another with spelling and references you don’t understand. I think they call that deflection. Worst part is that it flew back in your face, both instances.
If you want to play that game I could make comments about how a poster that has been a member for 14 years years doesn’t know the Moran reference. Or I could comment about someone that doesn’t know they swiped a terrible app trend to try and pass it off as their own on a message bored. Yes, bored is another T-net reference. All that said, that’s not my style. Hope this helped you out!
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