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TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics
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TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 9:00 AM

 
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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 9:18 AM

Love to hear about the academic achievements

Still disappointed that we didn't bring in an offensive lineman from the portal. We desperately need help in the interior. I'm glad that they looked. But, man, only offering 2 guys. That's it?

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 9:46 AM

I think this year is an important year for T. Austin to showcase himself as the OL coach and our offensive success going forward (must be able to recruit and develop the big uglies). If there is not at least a small improvement in the OL this year then we will struggle to be in the hunt for any top OL and staying around the top of the college world much longer. I say this because I have noticed some good OL that really seem like the visits, but are not pulling the trigger and they must be getting that negative recruiting pitch from other schools that T Austin as a coach will be a gamble and has no experience. Dabo had that same thing but he is Dabo and had Robbie CaldWell come in as one of the best for that position coach. Here is to Coach Austin pulling this off and the OL being the surprise of this team in a good way!!!!

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 9:53 AM

I actually believe Thomas Austin is a good offensive line coach. McFadden and Parks are one of the best OT duos in the country. Our interior is suspect though, especially at guard. It sounds like Tate and Pennington will be the starters this year with Putnam playing a new position. That's worrisome.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:02 AM

I agree with you on Coach Austin, but he is replacing one the most well respected OL coaches in the country and that is a tall task for anyone that hasn't had time to showcase what he can do. Time and a little less injury's this year will tell us what kind of coach he will be.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:15 AM

Three things need to happen...

1. Tate needs to become way more consistent

2. Pennington needs to be what Dabo has said that he is

3. Leigh and Linthicum need to make huge leaps over summer and fall camp

If those 3 things happen, the offensive line should be just fine. Leigh was a 5 star, and he needs to be able to fill in for McFadden or Parks if they get hurt. Linthicum was a highly rated center and needs to be able to provide quality depth there, given his size. Tate and Pennington just have to be what the coaches believe they are.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 2:33 PM

I don’t understand why the majority on this site are not on coaching staffs making the big bucks, rather than sitting in your parents basement typing and using your infinite knowledge of football, basketball, and baseball. Most of the total knowledge espoused by the same group would fit into a thimble.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 2:45 PM

What an original response

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:23 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

Lee -- a lot of us make more money not coaching ...

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Re: TNET: O-Line 2022: 4th thing that needs to happen ...


May 28, 2022, 9:29 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

The fourth thing that needs to happen is for Will Putnam to master the Center position -&- stay healthy.

Notice that one of the portal candidates was the Center from UVA (who ended up choosing Michigan).

I forget the other portal candidate.

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His message seemed clear to me


May 27, 2022, 11:18 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

about why they only offered two. Questioning from there seems futile at best.

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Re: His message seemed clear to me


May 27, 2022, 12:02 PM

Agree. But some people are just never satisfied. Winning will answer the questions. Go Tigers!

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 2:20 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

Some times, I think that Dabo lets it slip his mind that when he became the HC and started winning lots of FB games, and being in contention for championships, all that money he has spent on improvements, and coaching salaries wasn't there to be had. And if he doesn't keep that part of the deal up, the administration will be forced to drastically reduce the 9 mil he gets, along with his Clemson grad coaching staff. All the academic success is absolutely great, and awesome, but FB player academic success won't keep those huge $$$$$$ amounts rolling in to keep up what he has built there at Clemson. When it's about a sport, wins keep the $$$$$$ coming in, but losses with player degrees, and high GPA's will cause the money well to dry up!!!! Some times, the truth can hurt!!!!

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All good news


May 27, 2022, 9:35 AM

One of four teams with zero losses to the transfer portal since Feb 1, and "we had two guys that we offered and didn't get them."

All good news IMO.

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Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use


May 27, 2022, 9:40 AM

the Transfer Portal" chatter.

Let's face it, the only real positions where players from the Portal have made a huge impact are Quarterback and Wide Receiver. We believe we have those positions covered. And the Portal reality is, the vast majority of the players there, ARE there, because of lack of playing time at their previous school.

I am with Dabo on this. Why take somebody else's second string guy out of the Portal, just to have him take up second string space on the end of OUR bench? Barring injuries, we have more than enough bodies here already to do that. And, if the situation changes DUE to injury, then I am sure Dabo will reevaluate, and look for help. But, as has already been proven, just because someone is in the Portal, does not mean Clemson has a shot to get them. Thinking we can cherry pick whoever we want out of the Portal is a great fallacy.

I believe that NIL, or more specifically the gross "misapplication" of the original intent of NIL, is by far the bigger threat to college football than the Transfer Portal. It may take another couple of years, but if NIL is left unchecked, the whole structure of college football will collapse like a House of Cards.

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It seems pretty clear to me that if Dabo doesn't step it up


May 27, 2022, 9:54 AM

with the portal use he will never achieve the kind of success that Brown L has experienced with our basketball program. Time will tell I suppose.

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QB and WRs are the "flashy" noticeable positions........


May 27, 2022, 10:12 AM [ in reply to Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use ]

that's why they "seem" to have made "huge impacts". That's not the only "huge impact" positions that come from the portal............just ones you can easily SEE. Just one example is the Center for Baylor transferred to them either last year or year before made a big impact for their Oline and was a big part/help to their success.


I do agree with your last statement although I already think the structure of CFB is collapsing, much sooner than I expected.

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Re: Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use


May 27, 2022, 10:49 AM [ in reply to Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use ]

37 transfer portal players were taken in the draft. Most of them were not QBs/WRs. Signing a future NFL draft pick from the portal is not a bad thing. We could use one on the interior of our offensive line. We could have used a couple in our back 7, considering we lost 5/7 starters.

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Per the stats, there were 2669 players in the portal this


May 27, 2022, 12:28 PM

year, through the first eight months. Do the math on 37/2669 and you get about a 1.4% chance of hitting on that NFL talent. And, that's even assuming that they would choose Clemson as their transfer destination, which is not going to be the case most of the time. Dabo already said, we made a few offers, and didn't land ANY of them.

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Good points


May 27, 2022, 12:25 PM [ in reply to Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use ]

We've seen linemen from the portal be enormous parts of title-winning teams & end up getting drafted high as a result; I think QB's, RB's & WR's are just the ones that make the highlight reels is all, but I hear you.

Still, we had our sights on two guys, & we went after them rather than staying out of the portal race altogether, & I think that's a good thing in spite of the end result.

I'm with you in that Coach Swinney is an exceptional judge of talent; if there were other guys worth trying to get, he would have done it (rather than a missed opportunity).

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Re: Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use


May 28, 2022, 1:52 PM [ in reply to Cue all the inevitable "We're doomed because we won't use ]

On offense I agree WR & QB are the easiest portal transitions to show immediate success but mostly bc they have the ball. With defensive players it's a little different bc a CB with 6 pbu might not get as much attention. FSU had a player go first rd they got from the portal on defensive. I think we have plenty of depth on defensive anyway but the portal for playing time is a distant 2nd to the NIL money players are leaving for. If the NCAA doesn't cap NIL money or atleast restructure it then College football will mirror the MLB and we will be the Braves having to develop our talent as opposed to the Yankees & Sox who can just buy it from other teams. The current model is disgusting imo.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:00 AM

Dabo's point on the Portal is exactly what many fans don't understand. The Portal is a magic pool that coaches can pull starters from. It is a 2000+ pool of players that were either not playing or in a few cases, just looking for a better situation. We have trusted Dabo for years and should not question or condemn him or his coaches.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:20 AM

"We have trusted Dabo for years and should not question or condemn him or his coaches."

NOBODY in any successful company, position, family, etc.... is or should be above reproach. Succeeding in anything in life is about consistently adapting to the ever changing landscape of your surroundings (regardless of whether it's business or personal). Dabo has done unprecedented things for Clemson and has had a high level of success from 2011/2012-present, however since 2017/2018 the entire CFB world has, IMO, taken a turn for the worse, BUT regardless of my opinion on where CFB is the only way for Clemson/Dabo to succeed is to ADAPT or get left behind. Regardless of what people think, Dabo does not nor should he have a LIFETIME CONTRACT at Clemson and he nor his staff are above reproach.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 10:51 AM

I agree with your statement overall, but I will throw in a few details that could be somewhat of a debate. The world of college football is always changing from recruiting players/coaches, how they are recruited, scheme/strategy on the field, and how to run a successful overall program. It took Dabo a little bit of time, a lot less than most, but a little bit of time to get this machine humming. Now with the biggest changes ever to college football; it will take him a few years to come up with a machine that works for these times. I agree that nobody is above reproach, but if there has ever been a coach that has earned the most trust; it is Dabo Swinney. I think people can’t help but expect instant information or results in this day and age of technology, but Dabo has a good plan on how to brand us as loyal to our players and establish that brand before anyone else does. That will pay dividends in recruiting once All these players understand that the grass is not always greener.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 27, 2022, 11:05 AM

I too agree with your statement overall, however there are a few things that Dabo is or has been slow (or has refused) to accept and adapt to that is pretty imperative to sustain the level of success that we've grown accustomed to over the last decade or so.

Up until NIL and the Portal Clemson has possessed the intangibles to compete at an elite level of college football. Which is Rabid Fan support, Donor support (MONEY), willingness of administration to get on board with FACILITIES. The ingredients were always there, but Dabo was masterful in allocating those ingredients to turn them into 2015-2018 level Clemson football. Here's the unfortunate part of it all. DABO only has control over ONE "gamechanger" for College Football and that's the portal. He can choose to use it or not use, but what he doesn't have control over is NIL and the ability for Clemson to compete with it...............Yes we can build a facility that helps with NIL and branding of our players, but we do NOT have the lucrative amounts of money to literally pay players like the "big boys"...........even if we chose to go all in and set up a fund to pay every Olineman a salary.........it couldn't sniff what the Texas' of the world can do.

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I was about to say


May 27, 2022, 12:30 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

I'm with you LemonTiger; I don't understand the suggestion that Coach Swinney hasn't adapted since 2017.

Clemson is defining NIL to many, & may yet define it best of all going forward, particularly once the first-of-its-kind NIL & Branding Institute opens here in a few weeks.
The doom-and-gloom of the few schools using a literal pay-for-play model being scary, I get it, but suggesting that's what we should do in spite of it being so rare & seemingly in danger of being relegated against at any given moment is kinda hard for me to swallow.

Dabo's using NIL like crazy, & trying to get portal players, not to mention changing coaches & concepts for the first time in what feels like ages. The suggestion that Coach Swinney, of all coaches, isn't adapting in any way seems misguided to me, & as one of only four teams to not lose any players to the portal since Feb. 1, I'm struggling to sympathize with the mentality of a falling sky (particularly here as Clemson fans who are taught by exceptional leaders who are defined by believing & teaching the opposite).

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Several summers back Dabo was touting our media


May 27, 2022, 6:12 PM

and promotional mechanism for the players, helping them build and establish their 'brand' with cutting edge tools and technology that the program had invested in, just when NIL first entered the picture. We know how sick our social media and digital promotion has been over the years. I believe recently the player branding component expanded to all sports, and they've added a learning component around it with NIL opportunities and the responsibilities that come with that.

I see us adapting, expanding, though staying true to the cause. Some frustration, maybe, but not fright. When you build your house on a rock, you can weather most storms.

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“Reproachment” should come from people who actually know


May 27, 2022, 3:58 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

what they’re talking about.

I agree with you that no one is “above” all reproach.

But MANY people are above reproach from a bunch of random people on an internet fan board.

If Dabo is to receive and accept constructive criticism, it will probably need to come from someone with the background and knowledge to actually provide it.

Those people are not generally hanging around on TNet.

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Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics


May 28, 2022, 2:24 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney updates Clemson's look into the transfer portal, academics ]

Which specific team has accomplished even a conference championship by CONSISTENTLY using the portal? The NIL money will change the landscape and the portal is the access point. If you're gonna tell Dabo to step up in the portal then u mean with his proverbial checkbook. That's NEVER gonna happen. We will never be that program with no class buying players bc u can't land em initially.....USUC is that type of program and I'm sure they will buy more Spencer Rattler type players going forward in this model. The landscape is definitely changing but Dabo won't abandon his morals or integrity in order to land a player or two here and there. If he finds someone wholesome that's looking for a better football opportunity that can immediately help us then he will surely offer that player. We have all the tools in place to contend for a 3rd Natty under Dabo this season. Clemson is and always will be the epitome of class. GO TIGERS!!!!

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I absolutely love Dabo's focus on academics.


May 27, 2022, 11:25 AM

The number of players with a 3.0 GPA or higher is truly impressive!

It's also incredible that we didn't lose a player to the portal this spring. I don't expect that to occur much, but we'll take it.

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And no excuses made...


May 27, 2022, 11:49 AM

all reasons people and players gravitate toward him. He's a natural leader.

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I'm not sure what excuses he could possibly make


May 27, 2022, 2:55 PM

about our team's academic performance, even if he wanted to.

There is no excuse for Clemson football players to struggle academically. The university is very careful not to accept football players who they don't think can graduate. Our players have plenty of athlete-friendly majors from which to choose. They have outstanding support in terms of athlete tutors and study hall sessions, as well as preference for scheduling classes, even making sure they are enrolled in specific professors' courses and also being given testing accommodations.

If Clemson football players didn't do well academically, I can't think of any excuse Dabo could make for it.

Obviously, Dabo's emphasis on education is a vital part of our team's academic success as well, and I applaud him for it.

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You'd be surprised by some of the excuses I've seen...


May 27, 2022, 3:32 PM

used by coaches and fans over the years.

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