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TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson
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TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson


Apr 1, 2022, 8:00 AM

 
Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson

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Apr 1, 2022, 8:50 AM

Wishing the best for DW4 in Cleveland. Take advantage of a fresh start!
Houston ended up being a train wreck for him.
He learned a valuable life lesson, and hopefully he can help turn the Browns around….

Good luck to a Clemson man.
Glad he recognizes that Dabo is someone he can count on.

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Apr 1, 2022, 9:33 AM

Well said TT80. We all have things in our past we are not proud of, but as long as we learn from it we can look at it as a positive. If there is anyone out there who hasn't done something questionable, I would be very surprised. I have confidence that Deshaun will learn from this and excel with his community service in Cleveland.

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"If a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal."


Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson


Apr 1, 2022, 9:51 AM

And yet so many other people that look like Deshaun go to prison on their very first drug charge because they can't afford to have a rich attorney like him.

The whole "who among us hasn't done something they regret when they were young and stupid" argument works well when you aren't the alleged victim. Something tells me your tune would change if the shoe were on the other foot

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Apr 1, 2022, 10:10 AM

What do you mean by "first drug charge"? First misdemeanor possession of marijuana or first suitcase full of meth? You don't go to prison for the former but certainly for the latter, as you should, regardless of what you look like.

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Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson


Apr 1, 2022, 10:29 AM

Possession of a small amounts of a controlled substance (Typically Schedule I or II) is a felony in 32 states, punishable by up to multiple years in prison.

Heroin possession (any amount) in SC is covered by SC Code Section 44-53-370(d)(1), and it carries a potential penalty of up to two years in prison for a first offense and as much as five years in prison for a second or subsequent offense.
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I seriously recommend that you Google "mandatory minimums for drug offenses". You'll be highly enlightened. In my state of North Carolina you could have a suitcase of marijuana and face a MINIMUM of 25 months in prison. Your "suitcase of meth" example is a bit hyperbolic. Possession of more than 1 oz of meth in NC is a mandatory minimum of 70 months in prison

https://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/NC-Drug-Mandatory-Minimums.pdf

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Apr 1, 2022, 10:44 AM

A suitcase full of marijuana indicates intent to distribute (aka drug deal) which such activities are KNOWN to coincide with violence and contributing to delinquencies of minors. Don't make it sound like carrying around suitcases of illegal substances should be normalized.

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Apr 1, 2022, 7:48 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

It’s entirely possible you are the dumbest person any of us have ever met

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Apr 1, 2022, 8:08 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

I'll take your word that drug offenses are as you say. That conceded, are you suggesting that someone caught for the first time with a small amount of Marijuana is being sent to prison for multiple years? Not a summons to appear in court. Not a fine. But hard time in prison?

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Apr 1, 2022, 10:33 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

You seem to not realize, everything bad that happens to a minority is BECAUSE they are a minority and everything good that happens to a whitey is BECAUSE they are white...blah blah blah. Same thing goes for Males, Heteros, Cisgenders, etc.

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Apr 1, 2022, 11:10 AM

Hey, tigerrag86 never said anything like that. He posted some facts that are a bit uncomfortable and that many of us may not realize. I’m not sure how drug laws apply to DW4, but tigerrag didn’t talk about racial bias.

That said, I honestly do wonder if some of the negative press coverage is because DW4 is a black man accused of sexual assault. You don’t see every press article written mentioning accusations of sexual assault for some prominent white men also accused of multiple sexual assaults. For example, a certain former President who is often in the news. Or the more brutal case of Rothlisberger physically assaulting a girl in a bar bathroom.

I’m not saying the requisite mention of sexual assault accusations for EVERY article about DW4 is racial bias. I’m just pointing out the disparity. Maybe it’s because the DW4 cases are still “new news” and our memories are sometimes short?

I do hope DW4 has learned from this, and that the women do receive appropriate recompense if DW4 intimidated them - either intentionally or unintentionally. I also hope we all learn from it.

Peace fellow Tigers

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Apr 1, 2022, 11:28 AM

Maybe I misinterpreted tigerrag86, but "And yet so many other people that look like Deshaun..." seemed to be referring to race. I'm not sure what else the "look like" would be (Tall? Physically Fit?). As for the how much publicity this is getting, I think there are factors that have nothing to do with race.

A) Us Clemson fans live in our own Clemson bubble. I read, watch, and know considerably for about current and former Clemson players than anything else. I am also an avid football fan which makes me aware of football related headlines. Based on by conversations with non-clemson or non-football people, they are only mildly aware of the Watson story. And to your point, my memory of the Rothlisberger fiasco was of the news media and sports media covering it non-stop.

B) This has stayed in the headlines longer than a lot of other "scandals" simply because it is been a longer process. Buzbee has drawn this thing out as much as possible to hopefully get Watson to settle. His tactics and Watson's refusal is why this is still going. If he would have settled with Buzbee immediately, there would have never been a grand jury and this would be old news.

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Apr 1, 2022, 2:17 PM

"looks like" - I'm pretty certain he was giving the nod to hung like a thoroughbred stallion.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


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Apr 1, 2022, 12:38 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

A whitey??? Really? Why don't you say cracker or honkey while you're at it? And as far as a suitcase of any drug...if you have a suitcase of any drug, then I doubt it would be your first drug deal, or infraction. So you didn't get caught for the first 100 drug deals, but when you did, you blame the system for your punishment.
I remember being in elementary school and being accused of something I didn't do. When I told my Dad that I didn't do it and it wasn't fair, he told me, "son, you have pulled so much crap in school and didn't get caught, don't cry to me about the one time you didn't do something and got blamed for it." Words to live by peeps.

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Apr 1, 2022, 4:15 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

I've been to church with DW4 and met his mother before, and he looks like the man in the picture at the top of this article. Deshaun always looks like an outstanding young man to me, and he will regret his mistake for life. Never thought he looked like a drug dealer.

So, your statement doesn't really make any sense to me? Comparing Deshaun to a street drug dealer is disgraceful, and his lawyer has nothing to do with it. His biggest problem was having a giant contract and trusting the wrong people. He was attacked just like they would attack Tom Brady if they got the chance, and unfortunately Deshaun provided the wrong people with the opportunity.

I have never seen a man that looks like Deshaun standing on the street selling drugs to people that drive by for window service. Those are the stupid people that end up running from cops and go to jail. Almost nobody goes to prison for a simple possession drug charge with a little weed. A big bag of drugs or some hard drugs is different, you will get busted in most places (maybe not in California or some other states).

There are even some people that will eat their own drugs and die on the pavement. Fentanyl kills dopers just like rat poison.

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Apr 1, 2022, 8:09 PM

Yea people don't usually pull their di€k out in church.

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Apr 1, 2022, 7:00 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

Great Post TT80 !!

Houston is a train wreck, because O'Brien was there, & Easterby still is

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Apr 1, 2022, 7:32 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson ]

Should not be illegal to get a tug job....

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Apr 3, 2022, 1:35 AM

You should be ashamed to post that, but, I'm sure u aren't. Typical man.

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Apr 1, 2022, 10:30 AM

Message to DW # 4--- Use the team trainer for your massages.

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Hope DW4 gets that fresh start and makes the most of it.


Apr 1, 2022, 10:48 AM

Not sure how "hard" this has really been for him though....he's a millionaire that can afford legal counsel that is keeping him in a good place legally, he's taken no physical toll of actually playing a season and gets to train and work on skills without any interference, all while continuing to get paid more millions.
If that's a hard time, sign me up.

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Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson


Apr 1, 2022, 10:49 AM

Wow. Lot of different takes on this article.

Here's mine: We are beyond fortunate/lucky/blessed to have Dabo.

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Re: TNET: Swinney says he's providing guidance for Deshaun Watson


Apr 1, 2022, 12:58 PM

“Just use hookers, dummy.”

-Dabo

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Dang..his NFL stats are amazing!!!


Apr 1, 2022, 2:12 PM

Most passing yards in NFL history & # or #2 in completion %..if I read that right.

Geez, he didn’t put up records that great vs all-time college QB’s.

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Apr 1, 2022, 5:01 PM

Good ole tigernet

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Apr 1, 2022, 7:09 PM

Well, this thread took a wrong turn at Albuquerque

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Class of '87


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Apr 2, 2022, 6:26 AM

He actually doesn't need guidance he needs to find God again. From his own words he was guilty as sin.

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Apr 2, 2022, 5:55 PM

No one has mentioned the presumption of innocence. DW has decided to spend a year or his life defending himself. He has been cleared by two grand juries who can indite a ham sandwich if they want to. He has good council and we will know the results soon enough. The Cleveland owners and Dabo are standing wirh DW for their own reasons. Comparing his situation to drug offenses or what other NFL personel have done has absolutely nothing to do with the long term outcome.

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Somebody certainly needs to, he has proven that he

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Apr 2, 2022, 6:38 PM

needs better people around him

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