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TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
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Agreed....
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Feb 2, 2023, 4:38 PM
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Roster Management is VERY hard & critical to success.
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Re: Agreed....
Feb 2, 2023, 6:48 PM
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It is very hard, and especially since covid, BUT, the best thing that we all should remember before we start calling Dabo an Indian giver just like head coaches in other conferences, but unlike most other coaches, Dabo lets those walkons know upfront that their Scholly is on a year to year basis just in case something happens like what has happened this year. Would Dabo have ever taken a scholarship away from Renfrow, I would bet my entire left arm that it would've never happened, not in this lifetime!!!
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I feel like it got a whole lot easier thanks to NIL
Feb 3, 2023, 1:43 PM
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I mean am I missing something here? Can't Dabo just openly say "We are pulling football scholarships from 3 former walk-ons and covering their tuition with NIL money". Hell he could pay for them himself it would be a drop in the bucket for that guy. Especially considering they would be paying in-state tuition in most cases.
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Re: I feel like it got a whole lot easier thanks to NIL
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Feb 3, 2023, 1:45 PM
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No, he can't say that. The school cannot be involved in NIL deals.
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Re: I feel like it got a whole lot easier thanks to NIL
Feb 7, 2023, 3:15 PM
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How many of the coaches sons are on scholarship? (I really don't know, but there were several.) Considering salaries, especially at the top, if there are still some on scholarship those should be the first taken if needed.
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Three NIL deals to cover their costs
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Feb 2, 2023, 4:42 PM
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Has to be something there for a player nicknamed "Quadzilla."
Hunter Helms, Preparation H.
And the long snapper, Snapper Mowers.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
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Feb 2, 2023, 5:33 PM
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In my opinion, I think we'll see at least 3 transfer. I hope we don't have any... but Helms could start for a lot of schools. So could Dominique. Both of who I don't see making the 3 deep. Perhaps an oline or Dline will transfer. Perhaps Will Taylor.
As I said, I hope none. But worse case scenario, it'll be one semester. And they most likely could get academic money.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
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Feb 2, 2023, 7:03 PM
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Don't hold your breath on Taylor leaving, he is a two sport athlete that is at baseball practice.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 3, 2023, 1:38 PM
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So isn't it somewhat likely that he could have a great season in baseball and decide to enter the MLB draft? He already passed it up once...
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
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Feb 3, 2023, 12:05 AM
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You can’t get academic money and play football. If that’s your scenario, you are not permitted to enter a game.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 3, 2023, 11:04 AM
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I just spoke to someone in Athletic Dept. Academics and they said that is not true. We have many athletes playing football and other sports that are on Academic Scholarships.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 3, 2023, 11:31 AM
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All D1 football scholarships are full rides.
There are rules that prevent "hiding" athletes behind academic scholarships, or scholarships for other sports. That's why anyone playing both football and baseball has to count as 1 of the 85 football scholarship. You can't give them a baseball scholarship and allow them to play football, too.
In non-football sports, it is common to have players on athletic or combined athletic/academic scholarships, as many of those sports' scholarships are partial.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 2, 2023, 6:59 PM
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Electric snapper mowers should have never happened, so he should count himself lucky to have gotten a year or two at Clemson for free plus all other scholarship perks!!! IMO, he made out like a fat rat that was given a grocery coupon worth multi months of free groceries....
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 2, 2023, 11:44 PM
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Huh?
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
Feb 2, 2023, 9:03 PM
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Hunter could start elsewhere. Just like Chase Brice.
He is a valuable back up, so I would Like to see him stay.
Let 3 walk-on’s pay for the fall semester, and then Dabo may be able to put them back on scholarship in January.
With December graduates, plus the Covid extensions he could come up with 3.
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Re: Three NIL deals to cover their costs
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Feb 3, 2023, 12:08 AM
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Chase Brice was a top rated 4 star recruit. Helms was a walk on. Their situations are not similar.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
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Feb 2, 2023, 5:02 PM
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Honestly if you look around there are some dudes who definitely shouldn't be on scholarship. They don't need 7 5'8" wide receivers.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
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Feb 2, 2023, 6:34 PM
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Honestly if you look around there are some dudes who definitely shouldn't be on scholarship. They don't need 7 5'8" wide receivers.
Do you have a list as I don’t believe we have many if any in this category .
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Re: Correct … there are zero 5’8” WRs on scholarship
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Feb 2, 2023, 11:47 PM
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But Trump said there were 7 and he always tells the truth. You must be a democrat pumping fake news. The roster has been doctored.
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Re: exactly after spring
Feb 2, 2023, 9:15 PM
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Dabo already explained the solution if no one transfers. He has it under control.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 3, 2023, 10:34 AM
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Especially SLOW 5'8" receivers who can't run and cut a lick. Now, if you have a speed guy who is a water bug with great hands, that's a mule of a different color........but that WR room is full of the former, not the latter.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
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Feb 2, 2023, 5:18 PM
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There is an easy fix that's staring you in the face. I've sad all along, who gives a crap about an 85 scholly limit. You can literally recruit as many players as you want. Bring in kids that are scholarship worthy and tell them, we're bringing you in as a walk on technically but your bills, tuition, housing books are paid for. A reoccurring NIL deal that equates to exactly what it costs for a scholarship. How much is that? 20k a semester/per player. Pocket change. A couple of Saturdays in the off season signing autographs outside Wal Mart for 5 bucks apiece.
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We’re running the
Feb 2, 2023, 6:22 PM
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Wing T next season? That should help with the scholarship numbers.
On more careful reading- never mind.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 2, 2023, 8:23 PM
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Usually works out. Some graduate in May and decide to leave. Some grad in August and pay there way thru Summer. We've been there before
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I don't understand how, even with the covid exception, you
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Feb 2, 2023, 9:21 PM
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can get seven years. I heard there was someone somewhere, that was coming back for an eighth year! I thought it used to be that you had five years to play four. With a free covid year, that would make it six years to play five. So how are some getting seven, or maybe even eight, years?
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 2, 2023, 9:49 PM
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I see a few walk on Bojangles ads coming...
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Or maybe even the new 'Walk-Ons' can put
Feb 3, 2023, 10:04 AM
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something together....or would that be illegal since Dabo has some ownership in it?
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
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Feb 2, 2023, 10:28 PM
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Could he drop his son's scholarship and pay for it himself? Asking for a friend.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 2, 2023, 10:46 PM
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His son isn’t on scholarship! In fact, I think that’s been mentioned many times! Pay attention!!
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But if you ask any "expert" behind a microphone
Feb 3, 2023, 8:50 AM
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Swinney is an idiot for not adding 10 immediate contributors from the transfer portal like FSU and other teams.
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Re: But if you ask any "expert" behind a microphone
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Feb 3, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Which 10 scholarships should he have rescinded?
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Re: But if you ask any "expert" behind a microphone
Feb 3, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Sorry didn't see your subject line...
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 3, 2023, 11:06 AM
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so dabo makes a mistake and now poor kids have to pay for it. what a disgrace to this university.
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Re: TNET: Swinney may have to resort to desperate measures to get to 85 scholarships
Feb 3, 2023, 8:24 PM
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Any Swinneys still on scholarship? He may have to pay for one?!?!?
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"desperate" it is not
Feb 4, 2023, 9:00 AM
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Dabo says it will be three former walk-ons who would not have them renewed for the new season.
That would be unfortunate (especially for the young men) but far from desperate.
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Re: "desperate" it is not
Feb 4, 2023, 9:02 AM
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also, I thought we had just gotten down to 87, but I don't recall what the last roster change was. anyone else recall?
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