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TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:00 AM

 
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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:02 AM

Streeter is not the answer.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:31 AM

He’s clueless and way over his head. No in game or halftime adjustments, unsure how to recognize or scheme to stop the blitz, etc.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 10:05 AM

Agreeing

That's about the stupidest, clueless statement that I think that I've ever heard. Dang, it pisses me off. Auh, I might want to do something about that 24 that keeps coming up the middle. You think, you STUPID freaking CONE HEAD.

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Yup. I sometimes wonder if we have more ignorant fan than most programs


Jan 1, 2023, 10:50 AM

...because it sure does seem like it.. especially after any loss. I guess they're the modern day fan though.. anytime you lose a game, find a coach or two to fire. Some fans really are clueless about the game. It's embarrassing.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

Reading comprehension challenges, I see.

Re-read the article - key half-time adjustment: Run Shipley more in H2 to take pressure off of CK2. That was a Streeter deal.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 9:57 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

Not sure about defensive coordinator either.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:48 PM

Which part of our defensive scheme do you blame on Goodwin?

Our use of J.Lukas at CB (which was needed due to injury which kept starting QB S.Jones out and the do-not-GAS attitude of Fred Davis that led him to portal his way onto an also-ran program) when TN WR beat him on an early TD pass?

Mukuba’s busted coverage that led to long gain?

Out of position LB which allowed TN RB to run free on the right for big gain in Q4?

True FR CB Torino Pride getting beat on the long TD pass … this happened during a blitz package in which we did not get to the QB. I’ll give you that one; Goodwin gambled and lost. (In case you had forgotten, BV also gambled and lost big time on occasion with his blitzes.)

Which of the first three big plays do you think were due to bad play calls by Goodwin? (Hint … neither Goodwin nor Streeter have unilateral responsibility for personnel decisions.).

These are rhetorical questions. If you think about them for a moment, then you will realize that your criticism of Goodwin is not justified.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Jan 1, 2023, 11:56 AM

Goodwin put us in a position to win every game this year--- defense did enough against Notre Dame, South Carolina and Tennessee. K.J Henry made it clear that that they were more than prepared for Tenn's high power offense.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 10:03 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

You're about clueless as he is. And I quote, " should have run the ball more in the first half".

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Jan 3, 2023, 12:14 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

I know exactly why Dabo hired Streeter and Goodwin and named them coordinators, he saved right at $3 million bucks on them. I mean just what did he think he was getting at a $3 million dollar savings, surely not two coordinators, he got exactly what he paid for, it's sad, but very true!!!! That's just like buying a Toyota Carrola and calling it a CADILLAC!!!

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:06 AM

Same #### Streeter

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:50 PM

See N507114 response to another Streeter hater.

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Dec 31, 2022, 7:09 AM

It’s abundantly clear that Streeter has no idea what he is doing.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:53 PM

I’ll play … what part of Streeter,s in-game adjustments would you have done better?

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Jan 1, 2023, 9:12 AM

On a drive in the first half, Mafah was running well. So let’s call 3 straight pass plays and get our freshman QB starting his first game killed and the offense stopped. Maybe we should have kept running the ball???
Moving the ball well and have your tight end throw a pass? Brilliant.
Have an empty backfield on multiple occasions even on early downs. So no one there to pick up blitz. how about having a running back stay in the backfield to pick up the blitz or have play action??? Did we ever try 2 back scheme?
Very frustrating.

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We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 7:13 AM

That was his answer, I’d be up to almost a 6-pack.

Cade didn’t know we didn’t have a time out. Who’s coaching this young man again???

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Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 8:29 AM

“… in hindsight [we] probably should have done more to get him comfortable instead of having him throw the ball 40 times in the first half.”

Uhhh… you think?! Didn’t need HINDSIGHT to see that one! Every single fan (and all of the ESPN announcers) saw that one in REAL-TIME!! Terrible coaching move; he’s in WAY over his head as OC.

Oh, and this should NEVER have been CK’s first career start; been saying it all season. He should have been a veteran at this point. He would not have made the freshman mistakes if that were true. Coaches put him in another terrible position, including how they handled the DJ/CK transition, and how they threw him to the wolves at ND. Worst coaching staff I’ve seen in years! Skeeter has got to go.

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Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 8:45 AM

So you're just gonna stick to that story huh. You're not gonna acknowledge that DJ was elite when he got to Clemson and regressed under Clemson's coaching leadership. This coaching staff is a bust, Dabo didn't go out and reload with even better coaches, he took guys from within which I get that its a great corporate model, promote from within because they get the culture and vision but clearly it hasn't worked. And all of ya'll who killed DJ should apologize to this young man,

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Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 9:18 AM

Football is a cruel game, Shirley. Put your big girl panties on! J/K. Kinda. Seriously, DJ was elite when he arrived. The system we molded him into was not his strength. It’s unfortunate DJ took the heat, it is what it is. The QB will always take he heat. DJ needed to leave. All parties are better today. Fans. DJ. Oregon State. It should have happened a year ago.

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Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 4:15 PM

Generally agree with some aspects of your comments.

Help me here, though: Which games do you think that CK2 would have lost this year if he was the starter on day 1.

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Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame


Dec 31, 2022, 4:12 PM [ in reply to Re: We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame ]

How ironic that you call out Streeter for hindsight when you make the absurd ‘hindsight’ judgement that CK2 should have been given PT during close moments of our games this year simply to give him experience.

Before going further, in which close games should we have put CK2 in for the purpose of giving him game-time experience?

Looking forward to your opinions.

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Dec 31, 2022, 4:07 PM [ in reply to We probably need to run the ball more….if I had a Coke for every postgame ]

Blaming CK2’s time management mistake on the coaches is ludicrous. Don’t tell me that CK2 hasn’t been coached to keep track of down, distance, and available TOs.

To suggest otherwise would akin to calling CK2 stupid. CK2 is clearly a smart guy.

Ever wonder why our coaches had been reluctant to play CK2 during big moments of previous games?

CK2’s lack of in-game decision-making ability is the answer. He has not yet made the mental adjustments as far as recognizing that his HS tactics of running away from defenders does not work against any college defense with a pulse.

He doesn’t throw the ball away quickly enough when faced with impending unmanageable pressure.

It doesn’t make you a ‘Cade hater’ by acknowledging that he was not ready this year as far as decision-making skills. But attempting to enable CK2’s mistakes by blaming the coaches is simply absurd.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:29 AM

Streeter is a joke. Enough with the nepotism. Bring in somebody who can call plays or you will get more of the same next year.

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Dec 31, 2022, 8:05 AM

I’ll agree Tennessee knew us like a book. Time for Streeter to go. I hope Dabo thinks this way if not he must love Streeter as much as DJ.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 7:48 AM

Let the next OC worry about it. Part ways with Skreeter.

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Lessons and Solutions ...


Dec 31, 2022, 8:02 AM

1. Recruit and develop a better O-Line. Make it a point of emphasis.

2. Don't go into the playoff/bowl season with an inexperienced QB (Cade should have gotten a lot more reps throghout the year, and probably even started before tonight).

3. When you have two stud RBs, that have been the strength of the offense all year, don't inexplicably abandon them in playoff/bowl games, and instead put everything on the back of your inexperienced QB who is starting his first game.

4. It has nothing to do with Streeter or the offense, but build some discipline in the defensive secondary. Too many WRs beat our DBs deep.

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Dec 31, 2022, 8:16 AM

Agree with each of your points, especially number 2!

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Re: Lessons and Solutions ...


Dec 31, 2022, 1:12 PM [ in reply to Lessons and Solutions ... ]

Mafah was averaging 2yds a carry more than Shipley and the bring a hurt Shipley in on some short yardage plays instead of a bigger back who is averaging more yards? The coaching just seems lost sometimes! And it isnt Just offense! The fake punt would have worked great of Swinney Jr would have pitched it, first down was easy.

Why is it that the stuff that used to look easy and make common sense looks so hard for Clemson nowadays?

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He needs to study up on complex blitzing "packages" like


Dec 31, 2022, 8:06 AM

like sending the sam LB up the middle. Clearly this confused Streeter for half the game.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 8:07 AM

Start by looking in the mirror.....

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 8:44 AM

You stealed what I was going to say. If Streeter is frustrated, he needs to be frustrating at himself. Also, Dabo needs to be frustrated at Streeter and make a change in OC.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 8:12 AM

the answer is for streeter to resign in shame. :)

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:22 PM

Or, take a demotion

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He’s in wayyy over his head***


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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 8:49 AM

Look, we got 485 yards but the Vols made all of them tough yards and Cade and Ship were hit over and over. Disloyal fans want to blame our coaches, but the truth is Tennessee pays their coaches just like we do and their game plan was to make Cade uncomfortable and wow they really did. Frustrated, yes, but as Streeter said, we made mistakes and every team makes mistakes, we just have to make fewer to win the big games.

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Dec 31, 2022, 8:54 AM

Okay coot boy

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Dec 31, 2022, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

After the third trip into the high red zone and zero points maybe you change the play calling. We moved the ball on their D until we got to the 30. Maybe as the coach you figure out what they are doing and adjust your plan. It seems we did the same thing each trip in the first half. Then the second half we start handing the ball off to Ship. Well after the 5th or 6th time Tennessee figured out what’s going on and adjusts. But we don’t and keep handing off to Ship

It looked like it was all pass or all run and not a good balance of each during each drive.

The offensive line was terrible in pass pro today. Why what happened. They were solid all year. Again the coaches have to be able to see the difference during the game and adjust. It didn’t happen and Cade was running for his life.

Bottom line is Tennessee looked like their mid-season form and Clemson looked like they took a month off. That’s coaching and preparation

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#### ####!!!!!!!!!!……you don’t leave….


Dec 31, 2022, 10:03 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives ]

a QB making his first start unprotected in the backfield. We kept vacating the #### backfield, leaving Cade unprotected from the blitz’s we couldn’t read even though it was fairly obvious to me. No tailback or TE for help…..Cade was getting killed or scrambling all night. Hard as hell to throw a decent pass flat on you ###!!!!
Our O-Line got razzed all night long and they can’t create any holes….PERIOD!!!!
Yes…..Streeter’s playcalling sucked as usual…..he has GOT TO GO!!!!!!
I feel great about Cade….love watching him play….he’s gonna be the real deal but will be hampered with Streeter at the helm…..smh

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CK gave us a chance. Make our fg


Dec 31, 2022, 9:13 AM

and make the fg just before half and it’s a 28-31 game. We have some recruiting and development to do. We couldn’t block to allow time for the deuce to cut it loose. He still managed almost 500 yards and gave the receivers opportunities we haven’t seen all year. Play calling once again bit us. I’d like to know how much Dabo takes over and what plays they are. I hope we get some issues fixed for next year. Cade has a chance to be special. He needs some help.

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The other elephant in the room needs to be addressed


Dec 31, 2022, 9:31 AM

It’s not just the offensive coordinator, it’s the defense. Yeah. We’re good. We aren’t elite anymore. Go back and look at my posts when Dabo promoted from within. I SCREAMED how it was going to bite us in the A$$. I wanted Joe Brady and Dan Lanning as coordinators. The latter wasn’t available anymore but there are PLENTY of studs out there who scheme X’s and O’s As good as anyone. That’s what we are missing. We need gamechangers. That’s what got us here. Jimmys and joes get you so far, without X’s and O’s They’re just filling space. How many 50+ yard plays did we allow this year? The most I’ve ever seen. We won’t rise to the top until we hire the best. We HAD the best coaches. It’s been a LONG time since we had elite o coordinator. It’s showing.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 9:14 AM

Start by blocking #24

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YOU"RE FIRED***


Dec 31, 2022, 9:22 AM



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We know the answer #firestreeter and


Dec 31, 2022, 9:34 AM

#fireGrisham

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I’m frustrated too, Brandon.


Dec 31, 2022, 9:37 AM

It seems that you might be in over your head.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 9:39 AM

I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but our first drive could’ve set the tone for the game. Instead Dabo, in his everlasting need to get his kids involved, calls a fake field goal, that had Drew Swinney pitched the #### ball Potter would still be running? Drew Swinney, like his older brother Will before him, wouldn’t be on the field for teams in the MAC conference. They couldn’t make the field for schools like Citadel or Furman, yet they’re playing at Clemson. That play epitomizes Dabos biggest weakness. His loyalty. His loyalty to streeter for his work as a recruiter and sticking with the program for as long as he has was why he was awarded the OC job. He obviously is not qualified? I don’t care that the Vols had the 126th tanked pass defense you don’t ask a true freshman making his first start to shoulder the load of the game? The game plan was moronic. The other moron on the defensive side the same can be said for him. After bringing the score to 21-14 and Clemson feeling the momentum swing the Vols faced a critical third and nine. It was the okay of the game. Their QB picked our secondary apart when he wasn’t pressured. His career pass completion percentage was only 57% coming into last night but Clemson allowed him to complete 68% of his passes. Almost every one of his vertical throws were completed against a three man front. So on the most critical play of the game what does the great weslicheck do? He doesn’t bring pressure. Easy pitch and catch for a first down. It was a joke. Next play blown coverage huge TD and game over. Last night was a HUGE loss. Clemson played at pretty much full strength Tennessee was without a heisman candidate qB the best wr in college football and their second best receiver and we still lose by 17 points. Klubnik isn’t the savior. It was coaching that brought us to the elite level and now it is coaching that is bringing us back to the pack.

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Dec 31, 2022, 9:39 AM

I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but our first drive could’ve set the tone for the game. Instead Dabo, in his everlasting need to get his kids involved, calls a fake field goal, that had Drew Swinney pitched the #### ball Potter would still be running? Drew Swinney, like his older brother Will before him, wouldn’t be on the field for teams in the MAC conference. They couldn’t make the field for schools like Citadel or Furman, yet they’re playing at Clemson. That play epitomizes Dabos biggest weakness. His loyalty. His loyalty to streeter for his work as a recruiter and sticking with the program for as long as he has was why he was awarded the OC job. He obviously is not qualified? I don’t care that the Vols had the 126th tanked pass defense you don’t ask a true freshman making his first start to shoulder the load of the game? The game plan was moronic. The other moron on the defensive side the same can be said for him. After bringing the score to 21-14 and Clemson feeling the momentum swing the Vols faced a critical third and nine. It was the okay of the game. Their QB picked our secondary apart when he wasn’t pressured. His career pass completion percentage was only 57% coming into last night but Clemson allowed him to complete 68% of his passes. Almost every one of his vertical throws were completed against a three man front. So on the most critical play of the game what does the great weslicheck do? He doesn’t bring pressure. Easy pitch and catch for a first down. It was a joke. Next play blown coverage huge TD and game over. Last night was a HUGE loss. Clemson played at pretty much full strength Tennessee was without a heisman candidate qB the best wr in college football and their second best receiver and we still lose by 17 points. Klubnik isn’t the savior. It was coaching that brought us to the elite level and now it is coaching that is bringing us back to the pack.

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Dec 31, 2022, 9:54 AM

Well said. I was screaming about the Drew Swinney failure to pitch the ball also. I have been screaming about the Swinney kids since they arrived on campus. Especially when Will was a starter late in the season. You’re 100% correct when stating they wouldn’t see the field for Albany State or The Citadel. No disrespect to hose programs. Nepotism is on display in Clemson. From coordinators who have no business calling plays to sons on the field. Don’t get me wrong, I love what Dabo has done and appreciate what he’s built. It sucks watching him tear it down due to hubris

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 9:46 AM

It wasn’t the game plan so much, although it was a factor. Blame for coaches all you want for:
1. Lazy play and inability to play to the whistle of the offensive line. Too much watching the play and general lack of global awareness around them;
2. Poor discipline by the DBs;
3. Inability of Drew Swinney to pitch the ball.

The result could have been very different.

The players didn’t execute when it counted.

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Dec 31, 2022, 9:46 AM

It wasn’t the game plan so much, although it was a factor. Blame for coaches all you want for:
1. Lazy play and inability to play to the whistle of the offensive line. Too much watching the play and general lack of global awareness around them;
2. Poor discipline by the DBs;
3. Inability of Drew Swinney to pitch the ball.

The result could have been very different.

The players didn’t execute when it counted.

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Dec 31, 2022, 11:48 AM

Streeter returning to a coaching position would be a good start for him. We need a good offensive coordinator with experience, passion, and an offensive scheme that keeps the other team guessing. Streeter meets none of these needs.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 12:54 PM

He didn't learn a thing from the Coot game he needs to go run the #### ball some not throw it 40 times in the first with a first time starter at QB .

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Dec 31, 2022, 1:10 PM

You are wasting elite level talent. We can talk about the Orange Bowl, which who cares anyway. Klubnik should have started midseason or earlier. I get loyalty but dang man. It’s not all about DG’s feelings. All the best btw. You got a back that could easily win the Heisman (although I’m not sure Clemson players are are allowed to win) and you give him FOUR F’N Carrie’s in the first half. Wake up.

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Dec 31, 2022, 1:11 PM

You are wasting elite level talent. We can talk about the Orange Bowl, which who cares anyway. Klubnik should have started midseason or earlier. I get loyalty but dang man. It’s not all about DG’s feelings. All the best btw. You got a back that could easily win the Heisman (although I’m not sure Clemson players are are allowed to win) and you give him FOUR F’N Carrie’s in the first half. Wake up.

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Dec 31, 2022, 1:19 PM

This guy's excuses just continue on. Have a great off-season coach. SURE you are happy it is over.

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Dec 31, 2022, 2:21 PM

Coach Streeter you the one making the big bucks.
You the one who should have the answer.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:18 PM

the Orange Bowl won't be the last time Brandon Streeter is frustrated with the Offense you can bet on that for sure,many more times ahead because it is all his doing

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Dec 31, 2022, 3:19 PM

I hope he has a mirror.

Play calling?
Having red zone plays?
Taking what the defense is giving?
Running plays that might work against the opponent?
Re-running plays that recently worked ... until the defense adjusts.

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Jan 1, 2023, 8:05 AM

DITTTTTTTOOOOO, DITTTTTOOOOO on all the comments, COACHING, ADJUSTMENTS AND PLAY CALLING

They thought they were playing an ACC Team. (DABO, this is the SEC) You need to step the program up if you think you'll ever see the CFP again !!

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Re: TNET: Streeter frustrated, looking for answers after Tigers struggle to complete drives


Jan 1, 2023, 10:11 AM

People that know what they’re doing don’t get frustrated. They set about fixing problems because they’re experts. I get frustrated putting a grill together because I do it once every 5 years.

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