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TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons
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TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:00 AM

 
Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:09 AM

Lmao. They aren’t even thinking or forecasting for the #### portal. When are they going to learn that this is the landscape of roster management. Nothing but blow smoke up peoples ###.

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:51 AM

Don't be such an #######, and try to comprehend what he stands for.

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Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds...

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:34 AM

Poster is absolutely correct; the situation has become laughable as it frustrating—

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Incorrect***

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:43 AM



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Re: Incorrect***

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:13 AM

Yes, you are incorrect 100% of time; but your admission of being chronically wrong is a decent first step to recovery from your indoctrination as a fundamentalist sunshine pumper—

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Jsebe10 and partsunknown: Wong as wrong can be

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Apr 19, 2023, 12:17 PM

You, partsunknown and jsebe10® could not be more wrong as far as what an honorable program like Clemson should do. Really, you are as wrong as humanly possible as far as the Clemson situation is concerned.

Tyler Davis, Ruke, XT, Mascoll, J.Phillips, S.Jones, W.Putnam, etc. could have each easily portaled their way out of Clemson; each one of these guys would be THE man at a less prominent program than Clemson.

For all of these starter quality guys to decide to be just a part of a positional rotation is due to more than our naive notion that Clemson’s Tiger paw and Running down the Hill is their reason for staying.

They are staying because they know who they are competing against, and are confident 5hat they will get meaningful PT with a top tier program. If they were to portal their way over to another program that is known for their ‘generous’ use of NIL to attract portal players, then each of the aforementioned guys may find themselves competing for PT with some super star transfer players who struck it rich in the portal. In other words, portaging out and landing at TN may have bit any of the aforementioned guys in the rear.

What does this have to do with Clemson’s loyalties to walk-ons?

Culture of loyalty at Clemson.

By seeing for themselves that Clemson won’t dump scholly walk-ons so that we can pursue portal players, our ‘always on scholly’ guys know that they won’t be undercut by us filling up our roster with portal players a la TN.

That, boys and girls, is why Clemson’s culture of loyalty creates incredible roster stability. It also makes us attractive to the smart HS players who see the long term value at Clemson exceeding the allure of short term ‘NIL from the highest bidder’ schools.

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Be honest, you got choked up while typing that, didn’t you?***

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:43 PM



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Your subconscious mind is fabricating...


Apr 22, 2023, 4:42 AM [ in reply to Jsebe10 and partsunknown: Wong as wrong can be ]

scenarios, rationalizations‐–a reality/a construct that enables your conscious mind to more easily process the contradictions & other irrational meanderings without question or consternation—(a defense mechanism gone haywire)

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How do you know? His conclusion sounds very accurate.***


Apr 22, 2023, 6:39 AM



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Re: Jsebe10 and partsunknown: Wong as wrong can be


Apr 22, 2023, 11:20 AM [ in reply to Jsebe10 and partsunknown: Wong as wrong can be ]

This is a stupid post. You're wrong, as are they.

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So you're saying you have zero substance to your claim?

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:37 PM [ in reply to Re: Incorrect*** ]

That's the point. Please expand on your position.

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ok "coach" Tyler Davis coming back, or chance on portal

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:48 AM [ in reply to Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds... ]

transfer that didn't work out at another program, what you got?

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You folks are so dumb thinking in absolutes

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:13 AM

regarding the portal.

For example, Clemson recruits a kid hard and he goes somewhere else due to money or family pressure or bad advice from handlers etc. but isn’t happy. So after a year he decides to follow his heart and transfer to Clemson. That’s a kid we should not take from the portal? He was Clemson material last year but not this year?

Stop thinking an absolutes. That’s not how the world works. But evidently that’s how Dabo thinks. Contrary to what some of your people think, the man does not walk on water.

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Depends on what school they committed to instead of us


Apr 19, 2023, 12:30 PM

No coots allowed!

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I have a Clemson diploma on my office wall


May 15, 2023, 2:56 AM

Any Clemson ranked from 1988 on my keychain.

Do you have those things?

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Re: You folks are so dumb thinking in absolutes

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:44 PM [ in reply to You folks are so dumb thinking in absolutes ]



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Please explain how the portal has helped Clemson Basketball.

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Apr 22, 2023, 11:08 AM

You're just looking for a way to sling mud at Clemson football, trying to hide the failure that is Brad Brownell.

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How exactly does criticizing football have ANYTHING to do with basketball?

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Apr 22, 2023, 3:27 PM

Some of you just can’t fathom how someone could find anything bad to say about it, so when they do you convince yourselves that there is some ulterior motive.

Guess what? There isn’t.

I’m very proud of our football program and our basketball program. Both programs represent our school well and have been successful.

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Re: Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds...

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:55 AM [ in reply to Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds... ]

You don’t like the way Coach Swinney, TWO time National Championship Coach, runs his program then feel free to look elsewhere.

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Re: Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds...

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Apr 19, 2023, 3:53 PM

Dabo’s Coaching already cost us 3 Natty’s too. But I how retires from Clemson

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TEK


Seriously. Are you dumb?

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:38 PM

Because you seem kind of dumb.

You paid money just to ignorantly troll Clemson fans?

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Re: Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds...

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds... ]



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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


I generally like the way he runs his program, but he does need to adapt faster and better

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Apr 22, 2023, 3:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds... ]

to the changes that have and are taking place over the last few years.

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Name one thing "laughable". At least one.

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Apr 22, 2023, 11:09 AM [ in reply to Don't be so naive, get your head out of the clouds... ]

Can't do it, huh?

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July 18th 2029***

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:08 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]



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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: July 18th 2029***

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Apr 19, 2023, 3:02 PM

A booster could step up with NIL money for an in-state walk-on to cover fees for the fall semester.
Then in January when the seniors leave for the NFL, put them back on scholarship in January.

Have them do personal appearances for their business. Hunter would be a big draw.
They can figure something out.

A great problem, too many quality players that want to play for Clemson……
Dabo will work it out…..

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Dude are you being serious right now?

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:42 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

Do you think the staff isn't managing our roster correctly, and the portal is why we didn't win national championships the last two seasons?

The portal is not the proven recipe for winning national championships. If we ever need a player to fill a hole, then we'll get one. But we're not going to just go in the portal to find a player and sit a starter. Again, portal kids aren't moving around to be depth.

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Agreed. And while I laud Dabo's philosophy of recruiting

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:06 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

high schoolers and developing them, he has to at some point realize that if that continues to be his method, then we will have a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds playing against grown-a$$ men in their early 20s.

Look, I do NOT like the portal and NIL landscape. At all. But all businesses have to adapt to survive.

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Re: Agreed. And while I laud Dabo's philosophy of recruiting

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Apr 19, 2023, 12:11 PM

I also prefer they didn't exist but this ongoing symbolic silent protest via boycott will not shorten the life of NIL or the TP but has and will continue to serve as another self imposed handicap effectively weakening the roster. Weakening by slowly bleeding the roster, season after season, as the TP is essentially a one way street(outbound); couple this with our other self-induced handicap: Filling the Annual Walk-On Scholarships for Charity QUOTA will make it increasingly difficult to compete against playoff caliber competition.(didn't mention NIL disadvantage)

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Funny because UGA had ZERO pórtale players and won a NC last year.***

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Apr 20, 2023, 5:50 AM [ in reply to Agreed. And while I laud Dabo's philosophy of recruiting ]



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Re: Funny because UGA had ZERO pórtale players and won a NC last year.***


May 15, 2023, 7:55 AM

They like to say that, but it’s more accurate to say they didn’t take any from the portal for the 22 season. There were transfers from previous years on the team, including the QB. They sent a bunch to the portal in 22 because they were over the limit.

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If only Dabo would listen to the Transfer Portal sycophants***

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:12 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]



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He would finally have some success if only

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Apr 19, 2023, 11:49 AM

he would listen to everyone on TNET. That's his problem, clearly.

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

Dabo has his way that has proven that it works for him and until he actually has to change, he will go with whatever works for him.

I understand everyone's concern about our WR group but, with the guys that has spent so much time as being injured, I sometimes wonder if some of their complaints of lingering pain could have been bc they were afraid that bc of DJ's inaccuracy, and being late getting the ball out to them would sooner or later cause them a more serious injury, and they just held onto phantom pain until there was a change at QB.

I say that bc that's most likely what I would have done with an inconsistent QB that DJ actually was, and wouldn't allow his inconsistency to cause the ending of my FB future in college or beyond. Some of our receivers came to Clemson with the talent to progress into the NFL. But like I said, that was some thoughts I was having for the reasons that some of those guys were out so much with an injury, and even when they were in the game they didn't look to be as talented as they were recruited to be, and I think that it was bc they had no trust in DJ's ability to get them the ball in time to have a chance to make a play.

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How many coaches kids/family members are on scholly?

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Apr 20, 2023, 5:54 AM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

Honestly don't know. But, that's where I'd start.

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Tyler Venables is the only one, I’m pretty sure.


May 15, 2023, 9:47 AM

And he’s not actually a coaches kid anymore.

And he’s actually a pretty darn good player, certainly worth of his scholarship.

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:11 AM

So the back up QB would not be on scholarship?

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:13 AM

Did you even read the article?

“The last guy we would take off would be Hunter Helms. He is a very proven guy that is a leader for us, and that could play for us if we needed him to. He knows what to do. “

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:52 AM

Yes but that means he could come off scholarship. "The last guy we'd take off"...if they have to cut that deep, he'd be affected. But he'd be the last one affected.

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:22 AM

Hopefully some career backups transfer out and give us some room for a WR. Hopefully...

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Hopefully NIL provides a work around to lessen

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:25 AM

the financial impact of losing their scholarships.

I’d buy a Quadzilla t-shirt - orange and purple Godzilla wearing a helmet running the ball knocking down cities of d-linemen.

You wordsmiths that are more clever than me could come up with some catchy marketable thing for the other two.

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Allow me to help

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Apr 19, 2023, 7:39 AM

"I LOST MY WALK-ON SCHOLLY AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CRUMMY T-SHIRT"

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It’s nice to know that I can always count on you***

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:24 AM



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Re: Hopefully NIL provides a work around to lessen

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:15 AM [ in reply to Hopefully NIL provides a work around to lessen ]

With NIL is the lack of ‘ships a problem?

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No***

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:32 AM



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Re: No***

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:53 AM

Yes.

Guys on the border of 85th man and walk-on aren't getting lucrative NIL deals.

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What I was thinking...

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Apr 19, 2023, 11:36 AM

is that a NIL deal just for walk-ons funded by all of these anonymous rich alumni that are supposedly dropping big bucks into their football teams. Now that they can come out of the dark, wouldn't funding a NIL dal for walk-ons help their team?

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Re: What I was thinking...

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Apr 19, 2023, 1:02 PM

Pay for the degree, not the player. I actually like that potential twist. From what I can understand, there is no way we couldn't use NIL money to get some of these guys' tuition paid for so they can stay, play, and keep us deep.

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Re: What I was thinking...


Apr 19, 2023, 1:21 PM

An NIL collective, or an individual, would have to agree to that.

Most people with a bunch of money aren't going to NIL-it it a long snapper. They want to be tied to high profile players/recruits.

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Re: What I was thinking...

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Apr 20, 2023, 8:27 AM

I would guess there are some large donors who love the program enough to help in that manner.

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Re: What I was thinking...


Apr 21, 2023, 4:37 PM

I mean, Dabo has built a special culture here. Fans, players, parents, alumni etc. all believe in "All-In". I don't have much money (i live in my mom's trailer) but if I did I would pay for the long-snappers, walk-ons, etc. just because every piece is important.

Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. We too deep.

Let's go All-In and turn NIL into our secret weapon!!

[Adding-it's like pro-sports before cap-space; you do pay for the superstars, but you also have the funds to build the supporting cast, which is vital.]


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Doubt there are name, image, likeness needs for a walk-on.***

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Hopefully NIL provides a work around to lessen ]



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Apr 19, 2023, 8:20 AM

The words “the last guy we would take off” means that might not give a scholarship to Hunter which is a shame. He played as good as those on scholarship in the spring game.

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:28 AM

"The last guy" means the guy who is at the end of the line.

If Dabo lined up all the guys in the order he would take off 'ship, Hunter would be at the back of the line. That means everyone else, including Klubnick and Shipley and Woods and Mafah and everyone else on 'ship would be in front of him.

Dabo is just saying, "Hunter Helms will be on 'ship. Ain't no way I'm taking his 'ship from him."

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:34 AM

I believe what Dabo is saying is of all of the walk-ons that have earned a scholarship, Hunter would be the last of those that would lose his scholarship...not that Hunter would be the last player on the entire team that would lose his scholarship.

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I agree with you.

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:18 AM

I was just pointing out the literal meaning of his statement.

But, clearly, the meaning of what Dabo said was, "Hunter Helms will be on scholarship next year."

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Re: I agree with you.


Apr 20, 2023, 8:30 AM

My thoughts, as well.

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And thankfully the portal discussion closes for another year.***

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We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:34 AM

Start cutting there…. Another issue was that QB/Future Grad Assistant taking up a scholarship that we could have used for a portal WR. That’s just poor scholarship management.

Maybe we could get Dear Old Clemson or Tiger Impact to hook those kickers and long snapper up with an NIL deal to help cover their tuition.

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:45 AM

Yes and we have another 10 or so former wallkons that willl never see the field unless we're up by 40+

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:56 AM

Who are the other 10 walk-ons that have been put on scholarship?

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:07 AM

The answer is there are none. If Helms, Thomas and Caspersen come off scholarship then we will have 84 players that were offered and signed out of high school, 1 grad transfer from the portal and 0 walk-ons on scholarship.

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Exactly.***


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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:10 AM [ in reply to Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship ]

Yes, but they are not on scholarship.

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship


Apr 19, 2023, 9:12 AM

I'm posting about (the other ten).

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we all need to relax. By Sept, this won't be an issue***

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No it won’t, because some players will be volun-told to leave

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:49 PM

or be forced to become a walk-on.

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Re: No it won’t, because some players will be volun-told to leave


Apr 20, 2023, 8:38 AM

Pretty sure they are told, and they do realize, their grant is year to year. I'm sure they hope and pray it'll stay full and be permanent, but they know the reality. JMO

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship


Apr 19, 2023, 9:55 AM [ in reply to Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship ]


Yes and we have another 10 or so former wallkons that willl never see the field unless we're up by 40+




No, we don't.

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U do know TNET has a list ?


Apr 19, 2023, 4:38 PM [ in reply to Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship ]

That proves that statement wrong


https://www.tigernet.com/view/scholarships/football.do


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Re: U do know TNET has a list ?


Apr 22, 2023, 3:14 PM

actually number is 87. Malcome Greene (CB-Senior) has hit the portal this week.

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Re: We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship

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Apr 20, 2023, 8:33 AM [ in reply to We have 4 kickers/punters and a long snapper on scholarship ]

That's where some of the shortfall could pretty easily be made up. Take away scholarship money and replace it with NIL money. Not sure what the rules say about this, but I think there is a way to make that work within the rules. JMO

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Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons

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Apr 19, 2023, 8:58 AM

He has until August. This will work itself out by then with transfers most likely. It is good guys who could leave want to stay

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A good problem to have. Too many seniors wanting to stay?

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:28 AM

I mean it's a problem for sure, but that shows a lot as well that more are choosing to stay than expected.

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TU, Good Problem to have, seems like the last few years,


Apr 19, 2023, 5:42 PM

before the Portal, Clemson was always short a few, which resulted in Walkons getting scholarships to start with

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Re: TU, Good Problem to have, seems like the last few years,

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Apr 20, 2023, 8:43 AM

I agree with you, but another big factor was the COVID year which allowed some to gain another year. That had to crowd the roster to some degree. All this is going to be interesting to watch play out. I would expect there are a bunch of teams not named Clemson who are in the same boat. Many have coaches who don't have the commitment to their players that ours have. Time will tell.

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Re: TU, Good Problem to have, seems like the last few years,


Apr 22, 2023, 3:15 PM [ in reply to TU, Good Problem to have, seems like the last few years, ]

a lot of these walk-ons usually are seniors and end up with a scholarship good for one semester.

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:36 AM

I hope all the fans that think The Portal is like Walmart and you can go find players just because they are out there will read Dabo's message. The 85 limit is the law of the land and we have to be there regardless of who might be in The Portal.

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Apr 19, 2023, 11:15 AM

Funny they never say which starter we should bench for these nameless portal players. As someone said they’re not in the portal to be backups or replacements for walk-ons.

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Apr 19, 2023, 12:47 PM

We needed help in the secondary last season after we lost Andrew Booth, Nolan Turner, and Mario Goodrich. Just looking at 247 sports list of top cornerbacks in the transfer portal, the top seven recruits went to Alabama. Ohio State, Notre Dame, LSU, Wisconsin, Arkansas, and South Carolina all of which started in at least the nickel position for them. Georgia picked up two starters in the secondary the year before. Do you think they would have not challenged a starter for us?

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Apr 19, 2023, 1:19 PM

So we should have predicted those injuries and had additional players on the roster before the season at that position?

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Apr 22, 2023, 3:19 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

remember one of those d-backs Dabo kicked off the team for rules violations, got arrested in his home town for dealing and gun possession and was welcomed with open arms at UGA

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Evidently, our talent level is far superior to everyone else’s.

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Apr 22, 2023, 3:38 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

No transfer portal player has ever been good enough to contribute to our team, but has managed to start for less talented teams like Alabama, Georgia, and Ohio State.

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:52 AM

Two thoughts. One may not be well received and the other is more of joke than anything...

First thought: Helms, Domonique Thomas, and our LS look to be contributors this season. I understand that their scholarships are not guaranteed each year since they were Walk-ons. However, if we're gonna take scholarships from people, should a conversation be had about the people who have scholarships but have been to injured to play? This is my unpopular opinion, but what do we owe people like Troy Stellato, a constantly injured player who (as of right now) looks to never be a contributor, that we don't owe to someone like Hunter Helms? Just my hot take...

Second thought (the joke): Why not convince a place like ItsUrWeiner to create an NIL deal with these Walk-Ons. Do a proceeds night during their 25 cents wing nights and help them pay for their tuition on their own? Or better yet, why not get Study Hall to do it since a lot of the football players frequent the place so much... Also, it'd be easier for Helms to pay that instate tuition than it would be for the Thomas to pay out-of-state tuition (just saying)...

Take these opinions with a grain of salt, don't get mad, and respond if you feel the need to...

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Apr 19, 2023, 1:07 PM

I think it's a fair question. I think we know the answer, but it's a fair question.

Also, what about this. If we take the big 'stars' off of Scholarships, they definitely will get enough NIL money to cover tuition. That would be crazy at 99% of other programs, but at Clemson, I wouldn't be surprised if some of our high-quality young men would entertain it.

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Apr 22, 2023, 3:35 PM [ in reply to Re: TNET: Over the limit currently, Tigers set to take scholarships away from former walk-ons ]

at one time, injured players who could never play again did not count against the limit. not sure what rule is now. I remember the kid from Anderson who had a major stroke before he even entered Clemson-Dabo told his family that his 4-year scholly would be honored. I doubt there are a half-dozen coaches that would do that. A player should not lose a scholarship because he got hurt playing .

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Apr 19, 2023, 9:57 AM

How many walk-on’s have scholarships?

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Looks like 3 at the moment.


Apr 19, 2023, 5:46 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/view/scholarships/football.do


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Question fo D Hood


Apr 19, 2023, 10:01 AM

Do we have a position on staff that is responsible for just roster management like a GM? I hear some college teams have that person now that mimics how the do things in the NFL. They've got GM, scouts, cap guys; who are all integral to planning the composition of rosters. Have we adopted something like that yet?

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Re: Question fo D Hood


Apr 19, 2023, 1:09 PM

I'm not D Hood...but isn't Danny Pearman our portal/roster manager?

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If we do, they are failing miserably the last couple of years.***

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:08 AM

It would be weird having the backup QB be a non-scholarship player lol. I would feel really bad for Helms if he does lose it since he's clearly earned it.

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Apr 19, 2023, 11:08 AM

When you get a bunch of unexpected returning players, this is what happens. It's not a bad or good thing for certain players, its just the nature of the beast.

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not sure but didnt bear bryans relative


Apr 19, 2023, 11:38 AM

get a scholarship? you could start with him if he got one. a pointless pick up as a favor

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Yep, Paul Tyson is listed in the scholarship count***


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Re: not sure but didnt bear bryans relative


Apr 22, 2023, 3:26 PM [ in reply to not sure but didnt bear bryans relative ]

Looking at our QB room then Tyson was picked up as an insurance policy.We want to redshirt the freshman, and only other QB was Pearman's son -walk-on.Sounds like Dabo did what most of you want.

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Apr 19, 2023, 3:43 PM

If he takes them away from former walk on then Dabo lost his freaking mind

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Apr 19, 2023, 4:33 PM

Who should he take them away from instead?

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Apr 20, 2023, 6:46 AM

Ummm. Use NIL money to create funding to cover these players financial expenses. There are no guidlines on NIL. Walk-ons restaurant could surely use some T-shirt sales, billboard advertising, or radio clips? Or sign another big time player to a larger deal and have a portion of tbe deal pay tbier tuition and give that scholarship to a walk-on. Swinney is a business man, he has a plan. Just watch.in the NIL Era, these problems are not that hard.

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Tigernet with the win

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Apr 20, 2023, 12:32 PM

I don't love how Clemson nation often defends Coach Swinney by not behaving anything like him or what he teaches, but I can't help but kinda respect the way it works on nearly everyone in Clemson nation.

I'll never understand it, but I'm learning to accept it will never change. This case, for example, is inherently nothing, but we're kinda treating it like the world is burning (again) & I don't get it.

I'll say this, what an absolutely remarkable run of roster management Coach Swinney has done to never be in this position before. It's just as absolutely worth celebrating.
He's a inescapably tremendous leader, just wish more of the biggest voices in Clemson nation wanted to emulate & learn from him.

Can't blame Coach for trying, though. Love Coach Swinney, always.

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Helms must be very confused, from back up QB

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Apr 21, 2023, 6:02 AM

to possibility of losing scholly. I hope he does not enter portal.

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Dabo has spoken to him. It's all good.***

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