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TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 7:00 AM
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 7:25 AM
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I like this article because there isn’t any sugarcoated fluff. Pretty much spells it out in black and white the struggles from last season and what needs to occur this season to be successful. Well done.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:51 AM
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Agreed but I'm not convinced it's all but guaranteed the Offense will be a lot better, but I sure hope so.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 10:27 AM
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Agree. Not saying it is guaranteed to be A LOT better, but it is darn near 100% that it'll be at least a little better. A lot better depends on QB/WR play which is more TBD.
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Appreciate your restraint
Aug 16, 2022, 12:23 PM
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But i think you’re over compensating for the orange tinted glasses a bit. I’m going to go ahead and guarantee you that the offense is a lot better than last year. There’s really nowhere personnel won’t be improved considerably, which is gonna create a sort of multiplier effect/positive feedback loop situation. I have average margin of victory at 11.4 for 2021. Let’s say 21+ in 2022. That’d qualify as a lot better, yeah?
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Re: Appreciate your restraint
Aug 22, 2022, 1:22 PM
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I like It!
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 11:38 AM
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Looking at the 2021 Offensive Outlook Tnet article is a bit depressing, though. Just lets you know that we have no idea what's going to happen
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 7:42 AM
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Great Article. Great Writing.
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Why no mention of Dacari Collins?
Aug 16, 2022, 8:04 AM
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He’s healthy as far as you know and he made some plays last year
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Re: Why no mention of Dacari Collins?
Aug 16, 2022, 9:41 AM
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Excellent point. I also feel like he’s the best blocking WR on the roster and helps the run game. Never mind that great catch radius.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:14 AM
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I wish Ryan Linthicum was farther along at Center. If he was the Tigers would be in pretty good shape at right guard and tackle.
Not sure what to think about a skinny downed playbook. I hope this is more about matching the plays to the strengths on offense. I do have concern that this could make the offense more predictable if play execution is still a problem like much of last year. Hopefully, after the first month, Streeter is more confident to expand the play calls.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:58 AM
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This and people were already saying our playbook was too simple, now it's simpler?
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 10:28 AM
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They're adding more post-snap variation (i.e., options on routes based on coverage) so I would say it is slimmer and not necessarily simpler.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 9:44 AM
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Then again if you give WRs options on routes it makes it seem like you have a bigger playbook. Just find green spaces and settle down there instead of continuing to run right at DBs and cover yourself just because that’s the route the play called for.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:26 AM
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Yards per play means nothing, wins mean everything. Until I see an offense that truly features a running game, I am not convinced that our backs are all that. Until we can win the ACC, talk about a National Championship is out of the question. If our OL can become dominant and we can control the clock and get yards on the ground when we need them, we will have a chance to get to Charlotte and another ACC Championship. First things first, one game at a time.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:42 AM
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Well said. I think coming out this year and establishing a run first offense with RB screens and short passes to TEs would go a long way in helping confidence and controlling the game. Would
love to see us play a ball control game instead of relying on quick scores. Doing that opens up the deep ball opportunity. Just hope DJ has developed a little more touch on those short passes. He can throw the ball a mile but It seems the short pass is where he needed the most work. Go Tigers! Spot the dang ball!!
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 11:39 AM
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Elite teams do not play ball control. Look at the last several National Champions. Even UGA was a quick strike offense with their 5'7" QB
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 8:57 AM
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You're not convinced our backs are all that? Every team we played knew we couldn't pass and the offensive line was a weak link. Despite that the trio of backs showed out and was the reason we were able to muster enough points to win games.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 11:42 AM
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5.2 YPC for the 3 backs last year. Good but not great. Easily the least productive RB group we've had since 2016 when it was Gallman and pretty much no one else.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 3:03 PM
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tigerrag86 thanks for reading the part our opponents knew we couldn’t pass and the O-line was subpar. You just proved you’re dumber than ####.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 10:29 AM
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Yards per play are more predictive, but yes, nothing matters except wins. Nobody is going to look at an 8-4 Clemson team and say, they actually won less games but their yards per play went up so its fine.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 9:32 AM
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Last year the tackles did a pretty good job. My main concern is the guards and center. If Tate improves and If Parks goes to right guard that should make things better. Putnam at center really worries me. He got pushed around last year, maybe he's really worked hard and will have a great year. This line will be better, we will find out how much better.
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 16, 2022, 11:44 AM
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What % of OLinemen would you say have measurably improved in the last 5 years? I would say <50% of our OL have improved YoY. I mean, even Hyatt peaked as a Freshman.
We've got to stop assuming that OL just automatically get better every year because they are 1 year older. That just hasn't been the case at Clemson
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Re: TNET:Bottom line for any receiver
Aug 16, 2022, 12:14 PM
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If you can touch it you can catch it if you want it bad enough. If you are going to give a half way effort then please beg the coach to keep you on the bench.
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I remember, back in the day ...
Aug 17, 2022, 9:13 PM
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when it was proclaimed "we don't need no stinking defense ..." We seemed to score at will ...
What the heck happened ? BTW, T Boyd was the QB ...
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Better OC, better QB, better receivers***
Aug 22, 2022, 12:55 PM
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Re: TNET: 2022 Clemson season outlook: Offense
Aug 22, 2022, 1:32 PM
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I'm excited to see this offense take the field. I think the difference will be night and day
assuming we avoid the injury bug. I think the OL has already responded to the challenges
they face and will only get better with each game. By the time we get to the meat of our schedule
they will have gelled into a formidable unit. Mind you we don't need to shock the nation offensively
to be a contender. We will rightly assume our place in the upper mid-tier of the ACC offensively. I'll even go as for as to say they could be special if all the pieces come together. It's not as far-fetched as some would have you believe. There is literally talent all over the field.
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