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Believe Dabo when he says it's hard to win.
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Believe Dabo when he says it's hard to win.


Sep 26, 2022, 12:57 PM

Ask Oklahoma who lost to Kansas St.
Ask App St. who beat TAMU and then lost to James Madison.
Ask Alabama who had trouble with Texas who lost to Texas Tech.
Ask UGA who only beat Kent St. by 17.
Ask Michigan who struggled with Maryland.
Ask Miami who lost to Middle freakin' Tennessee St.
Ask Notre Dame who was preseason top 5 and has lost two games.

We expect to win and take it for granted. We had 1 winning season during my 4 years at Clemson. I celebrate every win.

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Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 12:59 PM

That's why we pay our football coaches among the highest in the nation.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:00 PM

^ Clown show, checking in for duty!

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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:03 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

I won't get into a ### for tat with you and bring up basketball on a football post, but that was expected from you.

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So you don't think expectations should be commensurate


Sep 26, 2022, 2:05 PM

with the investment in the program?

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Re: So you don't think expectations should be commensurate


Sep 26, 2022, 2:07 PM

Expecting to win, and understanding it's difficult to win, are different things. This post very clearly puts that into perspective by showing how hard it is for other top-tier, high-paying programs to win every game.

But, you already know that. Keep trolling.

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No.


Sep 26, 2022, 2:32 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

The expectations come with the job. You hire someone for a position at a competitive wage and increase that wage depending on their performance. When they become the best in the business at what they do, you pay them commensurate with being the best.

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Re: So you don't think expectations should be commensurate


Sep 26, 2022, 2:37 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

I think we pay BB too much considering we can’t even get to the NIT

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Re: So you don't think expectations should be commensurate


Sep 26, 2022, 3:06 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

Do you not think his achievements are commensurate with his salary - particularly his salary rank? If you’re crying so much after a 10-3 season what - exactly - is your minimum standard? Is is CFP every year? A CFP final every other year? A National Championship every year? Seriously? What is the standard and how long can he miss it before you go from trolling sh*t talk to openly calling for a new coach?

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Jstone D329 - “ It’s ok to want a coaching change”
Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Yes . . . I TD’d you . . .


Sep 26, 2022, 3:20 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

for trying to hijack this thread to promote your agenda . . . self serving and classless

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Re: Yes . . . I TD’d you . . .


Sep 26, 2022, 3:25 PM

TU for you

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Jstone D329 - “ It’s ok to want a coaching change”
Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


i don't think IPTAY makes those kinda


Sep 26, 2022, 3:31 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

promises when you make your DONATION.

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Geville Tiger on Clemson football , "Dabo's only problem is he has to deal with turd fans questioning every move he makes.”


Re: i don't think IPTAY makes those kinda


Sep 26, 2022, 4:03 PM

I was told early that being a Clemson supporter was exactly like investing in a publicly traded corporation. Who knew?

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Jstone D329 - “ It’s ok to want a coaching change”
Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Overall do we have a top 2 investment level?


Sep 26, 2022, 3:34 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

No.

In football, we're doing better than our investment level.

And again, that's entirely different than our performing-less-than-invested basketball program.

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Re: So you don't think expectations should be commensurate


Sep 26, 2022, 5:38 PM [ in reply to So you don't think expectations should be commensurate ]

Another negative poast... You are way too sensitive.

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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:32 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

So does Texas and Notre Dame

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As they should.***


Sep 26, 2022, 2:05 PM



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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:43 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

I certainly expect it every time we take the field. UGA wasn't doing bad but they fired the coach. We weren't doing bad either tbh under Bowden. I would have done anything in the 60 and 70's to have seasons like Bowden had.

But we wanted and deserve championship football at Clemson. Judge is actually spot on. We went ALL IN on football and it's paid dividends.

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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 3:11 PM

In the totality of his posts, Judge Keller is saying that Dabo is not competent as a head coach and needs to be managed by and forced to perform in ways he perceives as being better for the program. He is saying that Dabo’s success is purely the result of fiscal investment and direction from the AD in the football program and that Dabo is just the “Aw shucks” face of our red neck fanbase. Stop falling for his trolling.

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Jstone D329 - “ It’s ok to want a coaching change”
Brownell @Clemson: 8 seasons ranked 50th or worse by Sports Reference’s SRS
1-29: Brad Brownell road record against ranked ACC opponents
142, 161, 294, 307, 293, 166, 225, 180, 260, 164, 141, 72, 68 - assist rankings amongst all D1 programs during Brownell's tenure


Yet again, TROLL


Sep 26, 2022, 3:04 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

You're husband is the 38th highest paid coach in America, and he's only had us in the top-40 TWICE in 12 seasons. Stop hiding from this fact.

Dabo leads the 2nd winningest program in America since he was hired. Only 5 current coaches in America have won national championships, and Nick and Dabo are the only current head coaches with more than one.

OBVIOUSLY Dabo earns his money. Your husband, not so much.

Masochism much?

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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 3:24 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

Yeah ask Collins at GT he got 11 mil for the 10 wins in 3 years there

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Re: Yes, we do expect it.


Sep 26, 2022, 3:26 PM [ in reply to Yes, we do expect it. ]

The high pay is the result of winning. Brownell could be rolling in the dough just as well, but guess why he’s not!

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This past Saturday was proof that winning every Saturday is


Sep 26, 2022, 1:05 PM

hard. I knew Wake was not going to be an easy out, but I didn't expect it to be this tough. I let out a HUGE sigh of relief when the game was finally over.

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Boy, did we!!!***


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Re: This past Saturday was proof that winning every Saturday is


Sep 26, 2022, 1:11 PM [ in reply to This past Saturday was proof that winning every Saturday is ]

That game was easily a top 5 regular season game in Wake's history. One of their biggest opportunities ever. They sure played like it.

Same can be said for NC State this Saturday. Win and they have a shot at a CFP berth. Lose and it's the same old NC State story from here on out. They will bring everything they've got and then some.

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Re: This past Saturday was proof that winning every Saturday is


Sep 26, 2022, 1:21 PM

This is also likely one of the top 5 Wake teams ever. Tons of experience everywhere. Time will tell if any of that talent was NFL caliber, but it sure looked like it Saturday.

I guess they couldn't expect to win because they don't pay Clawson enough.

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At this point, Miami is just a brand ... the Nebraska of ACC


Sep 26, 2022, 1:35 PM

football.

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Re: Believe Dabo when he says it's hard to win.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:36 PM

Winning is hard. some like the Mich and UGA shouldn't even be mentioned. Close calls are not losses. Every team has those games but seriously, the Kent st game wasn't in doubt. Maryland with taglovola is pretty good and we have no idea how good Mich is this year.

Dabo is the best coach we've ever had or maybe ever will. Not exactly earth shattering news flash though. Every coach has said that since sports began. I guess the point you're trying to make is to call posters out that question plays or discuss the game in YOUR perceived opinion is negative or to say said poster doesn't celebrate the W.

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Re: Believe Dabo when he says it's hard to win.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:58 PM

I only mentioned them because some on Tnet were upset with the winning margins in our first 3 games.

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Yes, but it's possible to be grateful for a win while also


Sep 26, 2022, 2:11 PM

expressing concerns that have been seen in the process. This is especially true since many of the issues we saw in those first few games were also issues we saw last season.

The concern is that those issues, while not enough to keep us from losing to vastly inferior teams like Georgia Tech, Furman, and Louisiana Tech, could cost us wins later in the year when we play better teams.

Again, if our goal is to run a clean program and make a bowl game, then we probably don't have anything to worry about. Half of the teams in college football would be happy with that. But if we want to capitalize on our significant investment in football at Clemson, then we should not simply be satisfied with what we've seen in 2021 and thus far in 2022.

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"thus far in 2022"?


Sep 26, 2022, 2:50 PM

We're 4-0.

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Thus far - I'm satisfied ! ! ! ! You, Bob ? ? ?


Sep 26, 2022, 2:58 PM

Not only that - I'm "simply satisfied" . . . . ! ! ! !


Football is not a transitive proposition.


cutigerbob®

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Wouldn't it be nice if we could debate the


Sep 26, 2022, 3:18 PM [ in reply to Yes, but it's possible to be grateful for a win while also ]

preciseness of basketball wins while being a top 4 or 5 team in the country? Heck, how about a top 40 team for that matter??

Yet again, Mrs. B, you really aren't very knowledgeable about football. You repeatedly fall flat on your face trying to act knowledgeable during these daily troll jobs.

Someone else pointed it out, but you seem to be a glutton for punishment, or in desperate need of attention, or both.

Get ahold of yourself, Ma'am!

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Re: Believe Dabo when he says it's hard to win.


Sep 26, 2022, 1:46 PM


Ask Oklahoma who lost to Kansas St.
Ask App St. who beat TAMU and then lost to James Madison.
Ask Alabama who had trouble with Texas who lost to Texas Tech.
Ask UGA who only beat Kent St. by 17.
Ask Michigan who struggled with Maryland.
Ask Miami who lost to Middle freakin' Tennessee St.
Ask Notre Dame who was preseason top 5 and has lost two games.

We expect to win and take it for granted. We had 1 winning season during my 4 years at Clemson. I celebrate every win.







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When TB said this we were losing - and it was terrible


Sep 26, 2022, 3:12 PM

excuses.


We CONTINUE to be in an unprecedented run of success for our football team and the fact of the matter is - supposedly good teams - really good teams - are losing every week.


Just like every week in college football, every year.

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