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All-TigerNet [12529]
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This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 5:06 PM
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It was really a perfect storm regarding Venables departure. Usually when an assistant leaves, it is for a program that is downtrodden, or rebuilding, and players don't want to follow, etc. But that is not the case here.
On one hand, I can't blame the kids if they really wanted to play for Brent, but on the other I can't help but feel some type of way towards them. But they committed to play for Clemson under the guidance of Venables as defensive coordinator. So I really can't be too upset with them. And not upset with Brent because he is not recruiting them, but he can't stop them from wanting to go where he goes.This really is a mess and I just hope we can salvage the offensive commits. I expect we will lose nearly all of the defensive commits.
I hope Dabo will now realize that you can't ignore the transfer portal because you want to do the right thing and not pull from the portal and put them ahead of your recruited athletes. It is all a business for everyone involved, from the coaches to players. And players that you are worried about recruiting over, will leave the program in a heartbeat for any reason.
I have never understood why our class is often small. I understand the numbers limit, but it seems our class is small much more often than other teams. Who cares about per athlete average star if you only had 14 to begin with. This year's class was only at 14 before these defections and only a week before signing day. Unless they were planning on getting 10 more commits in the last six days, this was going to be a very small class and that was after losing 7 players in-season to the transfer portal.
How can we make up for a completely lost class? I think Dabo is going to have to hit the transfer portal hard now just to make up numbers. I'd go and find exactly the players that are in the portal that have the same potential these decommits had. They may not be there, but I don't see any other option at this point.
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110%er [5627]
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We have lost 2 guys ... geez! and one of em wasn't "All In"
Dec 9, 2021, 5:10 PM
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yet anyway
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All-In [30764]
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didnt lose them either.. just decommitted
Dec 9, 2021, 5:14 PM
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yeah that means they probably going some where else.. but still a chance Dabo can "real" them back in
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"real"... I like that.***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:15 PM
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All-TigerNet [10354]
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I don't think his point was.......
Dec 9, 2021, 5:18 PM
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"we lost 2 guys, the class is a loss".........although 2/14 is greater than 2/20ish
I think it was questioning WHY we were signing a class of only 13-15 to begin with?
After the early signing period, ASSUMING we sign the current 12 commits we'll have 12ish available scholarships!!!!
that has to be filled by a combination of: WALK-ON (please no), Portal (have to), or "late to the game offers" to guys that we didn't offer earlier b/c of the low number of offers Dabo hands out...............the transfer portal (and NIL deal) has completely transformed how coaches have to manage recruiting, roster, etc.............and dabo is late to the game in the portal....he actually hasn't arrived at the game yet.
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Legend [19567]
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Every player on scholarship has an extra year
Dec 9, 2021, 5:51 PM
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available due to Covid. Since Dabo isn't just going to chase someone off he had to wait to see who would exercise that extra year. 4-5 said they were moving on after the SC game. Henry has yet to decide. Until the scholarships were open, there was no room. Throw in the two late transfers, something they didnt know until after the SC game, and you have more scholarships open. There was no way to know exactly how many scholarships would be available.
Every team is facing this who will simply not run off players. It's not rocket science
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All-TigerNet [12529]
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He had already lost 7 in-season.***
Dec 9, 2021, 6:50 PM
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Legend [19567]
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In season lost Dixon, Dukes and Charleston
Dec 9, 2021, 7:16 PM
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and Dabo said the number of takes were going up due to that. May not be until February, but we'll see them. And we will see a portal guy or two. I'd expect before spring semester begins
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Re: He had already lost 7 in-season.***
Dec 10, 2021, 9:45 AM
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Starters? No!! People leaving because they want more playing time and players that are injuries more than not so whatever you want to say. The sky IS NOT falling
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 5:15 PM
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Unless we have a pleasant surprise coming on signing day, we have no other option but to use the portal. Every other program uses it, and it’s to to accept reality.
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walk-ons!!!***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:19 PM
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Dramatic much?***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:19 PM
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Cramping... It'll be over in a few days.***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:20 PM
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typical mansplainer.***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:24 PM
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Re: Never...
Dec 9, 2021, 5:44 PM
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How do you keep records of this crap to go back and pull up old post? I can remember what I was reading two hours ago, much less remember what some nitwit posted on TNet days or weeks ago
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Heisman Winner [139852]
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He’s the best.***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:46 PM
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Oculus Spirit [96791]
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I have a memory like an elephant...
Dec 9, 2021, 7:28 PM
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bookmarks are also helpful
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Re: Never...
Dec 10, 2021, 9:21 AM
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Well... That explains a lot. Thanks for the old post.
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Re: Dramatic much?***
Dec 9, 2021, 8:32 PM
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I can’t recall the exact year - but think it was after our first CFP - I met 81-85 in a ChickFilA parking lot in Atlanta to give him copies of some extra SIs I had with Deshaun, Gallman and the Championship issue, for the price of a chicken sandwich meal. He pulled in and his car had three or four paw stickers, etc. on his car. I truly thought he was a solid Clemson fan and ‘All In’.
Boy, was EYE WRONG!!!
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Last time I checked, nearly all of our commitments are still committed.
Dec 9, 2021, 5:22 PM
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Your post seems a bit over the top, don’t you think?
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All-TigerNet [12529]
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Two of 14 have decommitted in two days. We have a 12 member
Dec 9, 2021, 6:51 PM
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class with signing day six days away.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 5:27 PM
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STEP AWAY FROM THE LEDGE!!!!!!!***
Dec 9, 2021, 5:32 PM
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 5:46 PM
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I'll bet you're a "glass is broken" kind of guy.
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All-TigerNet [12529]
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And you're a head buried in the sand kind of guy, a
Dec 9, 2021, 6:53 PM
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whistle past the graveyard kind of guy, a Baghdad Bob kind of guy. Keep smiling.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 6:26 PM
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I think the returning players on both sides of the ball will make us an ACC Championship caliber team next year. They may just be good enough to run through the regular season undefeated. After next season could be the time for Clemson to look into the transfer portal, if it is needed. Dabo will get us through these changes. The world is now falling for Clemson. We have not lost a game since Venables left.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 6:27 PM
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The sky is not falling. haha
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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you
Dec 9, 2021, 6:34 PM
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fno
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 6:53 PM
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Dabo saves multiple schollies for walk-ons. Like 8-10 I think we had this year.
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I think we lose these 2 either way
Dec 9, 2021, 6:54 PM
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They’re friends from Jersey and went to IMG together. Seems like the visit to Michigan was more than Sabb let on and he and Campbell just used the timing to decommit with as much backlash.. just me 2 cents
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 7:25 PM
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If you've never understood you must not be very bright.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 7:30 PM
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Yep and the longer Dabo waits to acknowledge the issue the more recruits are gonna leave and then whatever internal turnover in players there is. It's back to the Bowden days now good times are gone. Dabo stock way down.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 10, 2021, 9:34 AM
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But probably still better than your 30%
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Legend [15863]
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getting beat down 30-0 will make you feel that way***
Dec 9, 2021, 7:32 PM
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Re: getting beat down 30-0 will make you feel that way***
Dec 9, 2021, 7:48 PM
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Nice! Love it!!!
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 7:39 PM
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It makes sense that recruits open up their commitments when the main guys are gone. It doesn't mean we can't get them back with the right hires. These kids are deciding their futures and I can't blame them. It puts the pressure on us to find the right guys to lead them.
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 9, 2021, 7:40 PM
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Dabo is the right guy. Don’t forget about that!
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Re: This is reading like a complete loss of
Dec 9, 2021, 7:46 PM
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perspective.
There, fixed it.
Also, I typed this while standing outside in my driveway. I can confidently report that the sky is still up in the sky.
I’ll check on the sky again in 15 minutes.
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Legend [16058]
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LOL...2 players at the same high school?***
Dec 9, 2021, 7:51 PM
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All-TigerNet [13035]
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I've been offline since about 3pm. I come on here and see this
Dec 9, 2021, 8:31 PM
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post and I'm thinking several more guys have bailed on us. Nope, still two. Geez
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110%er [6876]
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WRONG! Stop over reacting!***
Dec 10, 2021, 8:49 AM
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All-TigerNet [12529]
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ok***
Dec 10, 2021, 3:09 PM
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Re: This is looking like a complete loss of a recruiting class
Dec 10, 2021, 8:50 AM
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The only recruit that matters is Cade. The receivers are a bonus.
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110%er [7868]
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A class with one five star and eight four stars is a loss?
Dec 10, 2021, 10:06 AM
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Wow, just wow.
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All-TigerNet [12529]
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Check again and only 12 players overall***
Dec 10, 2021, 3:08 PM
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