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110%er [5434]
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High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 10:49 AM
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any more news about this stupid project?
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110%er [9048]
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Why is it stupid?***
Feb 18, 2014, 12:03 PM
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Standout [342]
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Beacase it is way, way, way
Feb 18, 2014, 12:09 PM
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too big for downtown Clemson.
It will bring massive traffic and changes to downtown, possilbly ruining what makes Clemson special.
That's why it is stupid.
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^^^^ Could be the title
Feb 18, 2014, 12:10 PM
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to a KJ article!!
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 12:15 PM
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65 feet is a far cry from a high rise.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 12:18 PM
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Down town does not need this period
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I would've said the same about the parking deck
Feb 18, 2014, 12:20 PM
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In fact, I'd still say it, since traffic through downtown has gotten much, much worse since they added that thing. Doesn't do much for the aesthetics of Clemson, either.
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I bet the businesses downtown love the parking deck***
Feb 18, 2014, 1:13 PM
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 12:27 PM
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If anything, I'd prefer that they reduce the size of the footprint and triple or quadruple the height.
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This guy would probably think it is too short.
Feb 18, 2014, 1:08 PM
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OK, watching this video has exposed a fear that I have , but didn't know that I had.
I am not sure that I can even go upstairs anymore.
Watch the whole thing if you dare.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10202250892812895
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Re: This guy would probably think it is too short.
Feb 18, 2014, 5:18 PM
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> Reminds me of these two Russians who snuck up > Shanghai Tower in China... > > http://www.businessinsider.com/daredevil-video-climbin > g-shanghai-tower-2014-2 > > Makes me nautious just watching it.
yep that one does it too
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Whoa! Very intense video.
Feb 19, 2014, 10:17 PM
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There is another which makes my palms sweat. I think its "antenna tower climb" or something. Dude climbs a 10,000 foot tower to change a beacon. No sir, not for this guy.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:21 PM
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Oh I know you do Yankee
Why the h3ll are you here?? You said northerns do much better at building concrete jungles vs us dumba$$ southerns
Nobody at Clemson wants this piece of crap. We don't want the big city life.
You Yankees are good at 2 thing! running up taxes and running your mouth
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:25 PM
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lol
there is a reason small towns are small, because nobody wants to live there.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:28 PM
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Yeah Detroit and all the other big northern city's are doing REAL well?????
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:32 PM
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you are right, if we build a 5 story building, clemson will turn into detroit. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:35 PM
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Detroit is your reference point? Seriously dude?
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 1:34 PM
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Why do you use the term Yankee as if it's a racial slur? Why are you so angry about people having a different opinion?
Why am I here? Here where? On a Clemson website? Because I went to Clemson...that should be obvious.
I said in the other thread that Northern cities mop the floor with their Southern peers when it comes to urban development, which they do. That's not debatable.
This isn't the big city life man, this is smart development. How many people are supposed to live in this building? 300? That's 300 more people living downtown, without the need to use a car to get to class, bars, football games, etc. Do you think it's to chop down 10 acres of forest to build a development like Crawford Falls 3 miles from campus, where everyone needs to drive their car to/from campus, bars, etc.?
In my opinion, the more people we can get living downtown, the better. I think it'd be better for Clemson to reduce student dependency on cars...it'll make for a livlier, more interesting, more diverse downtown area. As more student go downtown, businesses will follow. This will create jobs and opporunity for local businesses. This has nothing to do with increasing the size of the school, mind you. This is about relocation. I think the closer to campus students live, the better life will be both on campus and downtown.
We "Yankees" are good at plenty of things...don't be scared of what you don't understand.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 2:25 PM
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do you think it's better to chop down***
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 18, 2014, 6:48 PM
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Apparently so haha
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 8:54 AM
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not angry
don't want this crap downtown
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 8:54 AM
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Oh I understand that all you guys want to do is build, build and build. If you are so great at development then why are all of y'all moving here? You want the south to be like the north and that is NOT what we want. If it was so great up there why did you come to school here? Like I said if you are to lazy to walk or drive to the store then go back north and walk. You ask where is there a grocery store with in a half mile from down town? Bilo find it LOVE it.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 9:33 AM
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Pretty sure there's been nothing but "build, build, build" going on in the South lately. The Clemson area has seen numerous, massive housing developments built within the last ten years, most of those geared towards students or condos for tailgaters. The question here appears to be more of what kind of building people want, not whether there should be building.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 10:23 AM
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Exactly. People don't seem to realize that there has actually been a massive amount of development in the area...it's just been done in a poor manner.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 10:30 AM
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Moving where? I don't live in South Carolina...there are Northerners moving South, sure, but often for retirement or job opportunities.
I don't want the South to be like the North...but that doesn't mean it can't develop in a better manner. What you seem to miss is that down South--and even in Clemson--it has been "build, build, and build". There have been massive projects built over the past decade, but they're not close to campus.
Your comment of "if you're too lazy to walk or drive to the store, then go back North and walk" is laughable. Bi-Lo is about 2.5 miles from downtown. That's not exactly walking distance (roughly 45 minutes walking), especially with a bunch of bags or in the heat. You say to drive, but then that would build up the congestion you're so petrified of. Putting more students downtown and a small grocery store (with minimal to no parking) would be a great thing.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 8:31 PM
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That's my whole point enough is enough.
Come to upper greenville county and i'll show you house after house for sale.
Oh I'll buy you a beer to yankee boy LOL
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 8:54 PM
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I believe you that there are plenty of homes for sale in the area...however I like the idea of college towns having tight, old school developments. I don't like everyone living far away from campus in these cheaply built faux-luxury communities...I'd much prefer students to live in and around downtown, among their fellow students. Rub shoulders with one another. Be a community. I think that sort of thing would bring the Clemson "family" feel to another level.
Does that mean the structure of downtown would have to change? Yes. But I think it'd be for the better.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 9:30 AM
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I also think its funny that the political bent on tigernet is typically "get the government out of my [whatever]," but when it comes to development and zoning, all bets are off.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 10:31 AM
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Yea it's funny how tunes change when things actually affect their lives...and that's coming from someone who prefers a smaller government.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 19, 2014, 8:33 PM
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I think if you check the ones that LIVE here we want local gov. to set up and not give into big money
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 20, 2014, 3:21 AM
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Local govt is not the issue. We need to put the bulk of the govt power at the local level instead of at the Federal level. That is the argument.
And good building and city planning (codes, zoning, etc) should be demanded by all. It helps everyone's quality of life and property values and attractiveness to outsiders who will be attracted to spend their $ here.
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Re: High rise in Clemson
Feb 20, 2014, 10:40 AM
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I'm certainly not against zoning, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. There's an additional level of hypocricy involved in that letting commercial land owners build what they want on their land is basically the free market at work. If they fail, they fail, so what. Obviously there are certain problems with that in that we all bear some of the consequences of someone's failure (lower property values, blight, parking problems, etc.). The issue is just how much control should there be and what do we want the goals of that control to be.
Do we want the government to actively encourage people to live in a spread out fashion? That's what our local, state, and federal government have been doing for decades. Our roads receive massive subsidies and people are encouraged to buy housing instead of rent it via the home mortgage interest deduction. Zoning in a lot of towns prevents building afordable housing by forcing houses to be on lots of certain sizes with certain set backs, etc.
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My gawk that is ugly. That thing is ugly and will be even
Feb 18, 2014, 8:12 PM
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Uglier in 25 years.
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Calma Calma***
Feb 18, 2014, 4:07 PM
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Completely agree but you will find little support on here
Feb 18, 2014, 9:52 PM
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Apparently a lot of vocal tnetters find this equals progress. This thing goes up and we start the momentum to looking like USuC - congrats! I signed the petition and wrote City Council. Would attend every possible meeting if I did not work FT and live 3 hours away. This thing makes me as mad as losing to USuC - that's saying a lot.
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Re: Completely agree but you will find little support on here
Feb 20, 2014, 10:18 AM
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Clemson will never look like Columbia...and if this gets built, it's not a sign that it's going in that direction.
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Take pictures of Clemson right now so you can
Feb 18, 2014, 9:56 PM
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remember what it was like once the destroyers destroy it.
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Look at pictures of Clemson 50 years ago
Feb 19, 2014, 9:25 AM
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It looks completely different.
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Re: Look at pictures of Clemson 50 years ago
Feb 19, 2014, 11:29 PM
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I think it is fair to say that applies to every town in america.
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Y'all confuse me..
Feb 20, 2014, 12:18 AM
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I've been at Clemson for 4 years now and I think this would be awesome for downtown! Have y'all not seen the campus lately!? Since my first year here they've built several new buildings on campus. And even more coming. This "high-rise" is nothing compared to the new additions on campus and how different it is going to look. Our downtown needs something new. All I hear from everyone now is how tired they are of going downtown because it's the same old thing every weekend.
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