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These #'s are interesting... is there an at-large on the way
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These #'s are interesting... is there an at-large on the way


Mar 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

Again, this is not a post advocating for Clemson. It is just the teams and their rankings. Make of it what you will. I do know this... I looked back over the past 10 years, and ZERO teams have received an "at-large" bid with a KenPom rating above 70. I could only find 3-4 that received one with a KenPom above 60 in that time frame (that stat would go back further, but that's just as far as I've looked). Both St. Johns and Temple have HORRIBLE KenPom's numbers and NET.

Of the last 16 teams being considered, according to Lunardi, Clemson has the 3rd highest NET, and it's not really close. We are the 3rd highest rated team in KenPom, and that's really not close either. The only teams above us in NET are Florida and NCST. The only teams above us in KenPom are Texas and Florida.

The NET rankings of the perceived "last 16 teams" are all over the place. This is going to be an interesting selection tomorrow, especially given new metrics. Here are the last 16 teams, as according to Joe Lunardi. I have put their NET ranking and Ken Pom beside them.

Last Four Byes:

Oklahoma (Net - 37, KenPom - 39)
Arizona St. (NET- 63, KenPom- 61)
Florida (NET- 31, KenPom- 28)
Ohio St. (NET- 55, KenPom- 44)

Last Four In:

Temple (NET- 54, KenPom- 76)
St. Johns (NET- 72, KenPom- 79)
NCST (NET- 34, KenPom- 32)
TCU (NET- 51, KenPom- 48)

First Four Out:

Belmont (NET- 47, KenPom- 53)
Texas (NET- 38, KenPom- 29)
Indiana (NET- 53, KenPom- 43)
Alabama (NET- 61, KenPom- 60)

Next Four Out:

Clemson (NET- 35, KenPom 30)
Lipscomb (NET- 50, KenPom 52)
UNC Greensboro (NET- 59, KenPom- 80)
Furman (NET- 42, KenPom - 55)

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Re: These #'s are interesting... is there an at-large on the way


Mar 16, 2019, 12:46 PM

If the NET is what the committee says is important, then they need to use it - if not they need to tell everyone well in advance of next year what will be used - based on this years understanding of how important the NET is - Tigers should be in the tournament - period.

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Re: These #'s are interesting... is there an at-large on the way


Mar 16, 2019, 12:49 PM

I appreciate your efforts. I'm going to just wait and see what happens. I really hate Lunardi and all the number and index gibbersih. There is a committee. I'll see what they do

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Re: These #'s are interesting... is there an at-large on the way


Mar 16, 2019, 3:50 PM

KenPom...That sounds like Chinese Sweplock...and that stuff will Kill you...

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