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CU Medallion [73569]
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the whole OP didnt leave BB with anything is
Dec 20, 2013, 8:57 AM
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Bs. The only tourney team of BB was with what OP left him. Even beside that fact is BB hasnt recruited jack since hes been here. We have one good player and 11 roles players at best. Supposedly he has 1 more good player coming in next yt but I will as told this yr blossomgame was our savior.
As is always said of brad. Good coach, bad recruiter. No one wants to come to a place like clemson to play defense and a slow down offense.
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Oculus Spirit [96855]
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I don't think Brad necessarily wants a "slow down offense"..
Dec 20, 2013, 9:00 AM
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he just tailors the offense to suit the personnel we have at any given time.
Of course, I could be wrong. But not likely.
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i wouldn't say you're wrong, but i might agree
Dec 20, 2013, 9:02 AM
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with someone that did.
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I disagree...BB believes that defense wins games NOT...
Dec 20, 2013, 10:36 AM
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...offense. I know I am exaggerating with this statement, but I don't think I'm that far off.
I believe BB thinks a "decent", methodical offensive scheme with average offensive skills, combined with an athletic, stifling defense is a winning combination.
As far as a recruiter, when you present this philosophy to a 3 or 4 star high school player, he probably doesn't even give BB and staff an interview. BB ends up with marginal players for ACC caliber play. This Clemson BB program will languish into obscurity for the next 4 years until it becomes such an embarrassment that he has to go.
I submit a vote of "no confidence" in BB.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Purnell never would've been able to take that team to the
Dec 20, 2013, 9:01 AM
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NCAA Tourney where Brownell did, that's the difference.
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come on now. he took the team to the tourney the yr prior.***
Dec 20, 2013, 9:04 AM
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Re: come on now. he took the team to the tourney the yr prior.***
Dec 20, 2013, 9:22 AM
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Purnell is probably one of the worst coaches in the NCAA. He does not coach just runs and tries to wear the other team down.
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I would disagree
Dec 20, 2013, 9:59 AM
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Purnell had his faults but he took this team from the absolute pits and increased their win totals every yr for 5 yrs and made the tourney the last 3 yrs. Considering our history, that is pretty awesome. Brad has been decreasing in wins every yr. Not bc hes a bad coach but bc he cant recruit. To compete in the acc he'll need 2 to
100 recruits a yr. Not 1 evey 4 yrs
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I totally agree with that.
Dec 20, 2013, 9:55 AM
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Brads problem is he cant recruit.
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Oculus Spirit [81897]
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Well he was screwed his first year completely by
Dec 20, 2013, 9:57 AM
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Purnell. And his second year was a rocky start due to it being Clemson. His recruiting is turning around with Rooks, Ajukwa, and Grantham. He just needs time, and I believe the end of next season we can finally make a correct decision on how he has done.
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Re: the whole OP didnt leave BB with anything is
Dec 20, 2013, 9:43 AM
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Donte Grantham is the #66 recruit in the nation for 2014. Beating out Michigan for a guy is pretty impressive.
Also, Gabe Devoe leads North Carolina high school basketball in scoring so he's no slouch either.
We're in the mix for a lot of good players for 2015 that want to play with Grantham and have a good relationship with this staff so we're starting to recruit at a higher level. It takes time to develop those relationships when you recruit the right way.
Blossomgame is a freshman coming off a major injury. He will be a really good player for us. Give him a little time.
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It's just hilarious we have folks that now throw Purnell under the bus
Dec 20, 2013, 9:51 AM
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And defend Brownell. Purnell took Clemson from the Ashes and made us relevent. Brownell is leading us back to the gutter, and people are just blind.
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Brownell just needs to land a couple of recruits...
Dec 20, 2013, 9:56 AM
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...and we'll be fine.
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OP took us as far as he could
Dec 20, 2013, 12:31 PM
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He realized that, he also realized he messed up recruiting by targeting guys that didnt fit his system and was frustrated with the support here at Clemson. Listen, the problem is not Brad, it wasnt OP, its Clemson. Until we take BB seriously all we can hope for is a few years at making the tourney here and there. Brad isnt as bad as some are trying to make him...he was behind the 8 ball his first two recruiting cycles thanks to the timing OP had, and his two best and most experienced players were big time misses from a evaluation standpoint by the previous staff. If people want to fire him after year five, then so be it...but he needs at least that long to make it his system and show the administration what he is truly capable of.
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Re: the whole OP didnt leave BB with anything is
Dec 20, 2013, 9:54 AM
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except a kid averaging around 35 agame in western NC.
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Orange Blooded [2847]
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Snap your leg in half
Dec 20, 2013, 10:22 AM
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and see how long it takes you to get over it physically and mentally. JB will be a major factor in the future.
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Re: the whole OP didnt leave BB with anything is
Dec 20, 2013, 8:39 PM
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Not BS at all you have been given the facts in the past so there is no point in saying them again to yet another loser no where to be found after wins.
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Re: the whole OP didnt leave BB with anything is
Dec 20, 2013, 10:52 AM
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Also our recruiting is at the same level as it was under OP mostly 3 stars with an occassional 4 star difference is OP didn't have 2 empty classes to deal with.
Clemson is a place that has to win with experienced developed teams hell look at OPs beat teams what did they have? Strong upperclassmen with senior leadership.
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you don't have a ####### clue***
Dec 20, 2013, 1:38 PM
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