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Orange Blooded [4009]
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The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:38 AM
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Everyone knows that they have been running a crooked program and that the SEC has been covering for them.
Sad that it took the death of two young people to expose them to the broad daylight. It is my hope that a good investigative journalist outside of Georgia and with no ties to Disney and the ESPN/SEC den of thieves sinks their teeth into this rotten program.
Aside from the fact that they were straight cheating before NIL and are straight cheating with the NIL, you cannot tell me that what happened to those two young people are in the “best interest of the athlete”
NCAA - step up and do your job. And take the SEC down a peg. UGA and the SEC don’t care one bit about the student or their well-being.
Maybe it does just “mean more” down there. Maybe it means doing whatever it takes to win and not caring who gets hurt of dies along the way.
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What would the NCAA do and why?***
Jan 25, 2023, 8:40 AM
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Re: What would the NCAA do and why?***
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:48 AM
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First of all staffers providing student athletes with rides to and from unsanctioned events is impermissible and is an NCAA violation. That’s on camera with 2 bodies in the morgue to prove it.
Secondly they should conduct a thorough investigation to determine if there is a pattern of this type of conduct. And anyone with half a brain will find more cause than they ever had against SMU.
I think they should be given the death penalty. 4 year suspension of the football program
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Lmao. The NCAA doesn’t even have a landline anymore
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:03 AM
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And you are just wishful thinking.
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Ed Zachary. They still have a hammer though…
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:23 AM
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Re: Ed Zachary. They still have a hammer though…
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:07 AM
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Re: What would the NCAA do and why?***
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Jan 25, 2023, 12:37 PM
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Don’t you think that maybe they were more than just friends? Probably not illegal to go out together.
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Re: What would the NCAA do and why?***
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Jan 25, 2023, 6:30 PM
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First of all staffers providing student athletes with rides to and from unsanctioned events is impermissible and is an NCAA violation.
No it's not.
NCAA ByLaw 16.9.1 specifically states: "an institution may provide reasonable local transportation to student-athletes on an occasional basis."
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Re: What would the NCAA do and why?***
Jan 27, 2023, 1:50 PM
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They could do this to SMU because of a letter from one of the big politicos at a large Texas school wanted to get revenge on the ex texas governor! They will not touch Georgia...if UGa gets the death penalty I'll be the most surprised person on the planet...NIL may have been invented just to get Jawja off the snide for previous violations (in addition to LSU, Tennessee and Auburn) of cash gifts and other bribery...awful to have the death of anyone at that age and certainly should be investigated but don't count on the NCAA to do squat...remember FSU, Miami, LSU, Oklahoma to name a few with nothing substantially done...UNC topped them all and didn't even get a pinch! SEC will protect their own and make sure the SEC complies...where is ESPN and Findbomb on this one!
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Re: What would the NCAA do and why?***
Jan 28, 2023, 5:50 PM
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You are kidding right?...the NCAA theme song is Peter, Paul & Mary...If I had a hammer?
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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There really isn’t very much that the NCAA can do about this situation in Athens. I think, over time, potential players and especially their parents, will see what has developed in the sports programs at UGA and several others. That is why it is very important that Clemson has an athletic program that is held in very high regard by everyone. Despite some fans cry for better coaching Clemson is very blessed to have the kind of leadership in place that gains the respect and admiration of all others. Winning isn’t everything but our teams, and university, does things the right way. Our players receive a quality education and, most importantly, get their names in the headlines for all the RIGHT reasons.
GO TIGERS
SUPPORT THIS MAGNIFICENT UNIVERSITY
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:25 PM
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Did you hear about the former national championship winning QB from Clemson and his proclivity for prostitutes? Was he that way before he was recruited or did he learn it while playing within the Clemson Athletic Department?
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Some people just wanna watch the world burn***
Jan 25, 2023, 9:31 PM
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Exactly right. What DW did or didn't do isn't relevant at all.***
Jan 25, 2023, 11:46 PM
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You are pathetic
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Jan 26, 2023, 12:35 AM
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Nobody student or staff at Clemson is dead.
Just thought you'd like to know that.
Also, if someone could sue DW4 for anything he did at Clemson, they would have already come out of the woodwork.
Utter trash of a post.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 26, 2023, 1:00 PM
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Did you hear about the former national championship winning QB from Clemson and his proclivity for prostitutes? Was he that way before he was recruited or did he learn it while playing within the Clemson Athletic Department?
FAILURE!!!!!
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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At least he paid his own bills and not the university! Being' on staff' at the university of jawja gives completely new meaning to the phrase!
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 29, 2023, 8:24 PM
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Not sure, but if he was tbat way at Clemson, I think the vultures would have come out by now? That's my true thoughts on DW4. I have wondered about this, but with his millions someone would've said or filed a claim by now. That kind of made me doubt his guilt in tbe NFL. Not sure someone just wakes up one day and becomes a sexual predator.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 25, 2023, 8:53 AM
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You have got to be joking...NCAA will never slap one of their children...they will beat the he** out of SMU or Clemson...but Miami, Fla St, UNC, LSU, OSU, Oklahoma, etc and many of these not just breaking NCAA so called rules but Civil law and certainly moral rules! Others had huge issues that the NCAA refused to investigate but a letter to MA from a major school in TEXAS got poor little SMU clobbered for a political vendetta against an ex governor! Go to any of these schools and look where the football players from the Overlord section of Miami Park their new SUV`s...wonder how?
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Maybe you know more than me?? Not hard to do...
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:57 AM
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But what are you looking at or thinking is violations as related to the wreck? You have players that are friends with staff assistants. They go clubbing, most bars shut down at 2am in ATL so they go to strip club to continue night on town. They leave at 2:30am or little later. Is the wreck due to intoxication, was it multiple car wreck, was the other driver intoxicated if there was another car?? Has the BAC been released from the driver or were they the designated driver??
Just hearing some wild accusations. Maybe the players with NIL $$$ paid the assistants that don't make much money fo take them put and be designated driver. If there was another car involved, was that driver at fault or intoxicated?
I just haven't hear all the details, but people jumping to conclusions about staff, suing school, not having legal access to vehicles, etc, etc. Just not enough information released from what i have read to make wild accusations. Plus all this law suit talk when not knowing just shows you how Americans think with lawsuits when facts are missing. Maybe I missed some of the insiders information?
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Re: Maybe you know more than me?? Not hard to do...
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The driver was not tested for BAC or controlled substances from a newspaper report that I read after the incident. I’m not sure I feel the U of Ga is much responsible for this tragedy. As a board certified physician I find it curious that there was an automobile accident with deaths and the driver was not tested for these substances. This just isn’t how things are done.
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Re: Maybe you know more than me?? Not hard to do...
Jan 25, 2023, 10:36 AM
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Well that's how things are done in Athens, Tallahassee, Baton Rouge, Knoxville or Gainesville! When these kids have no moral compass the sky is the limit and when every action is supported by what is good for the football team not the so called student athlete you get `anarchy`...just try to get the NCAA to enforce anything!
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Re: Maybe you know more than me?? Not hard to do...
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:51 AM
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Read any of the AJC articles because you’re woefully uninformed about the circumstances. It was not a multi car accident and Georgia athletic department policy specifically prohibits fraternization between staff and players in a non-official capacity.
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Re: Maybe you know more than me?? Not hard to do...
Jan 27, 2023, 1:56 PM
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Maybe we will hear from the SEC network and all the talking heads! What about an investigation by that great talk show host 'Findbomb'!
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Hold on
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:00 AM
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Let me get a tinfoil hat real quick
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The NCAA
Jan 25, 2023, 9:04 AM
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Can’t tell a university how to discipline their students,
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Is it really that much different than Freeze?
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:11 AM
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Freeze brought the Ho's to the players,UGA is just taking the Players to the Ho's ? LOL
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:22 AM
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Smart wears a facade to resemble Dabo but is as crooked as it gets. What a fake and phony. No one like him stays on the top forever. His sins will find him out as he goes. When Dabo finally had to kick the CB off his team couple years ago and Kirby grabbed him, that told me everything I needed to know about Kirby Smart.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 25, 2023, 9:33 AM
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I don’t get the impression that Smart pretends to be a saint. Did you hear his pregame speech before the national championship game?
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FYI (doesn't change anything, really)
Jan 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
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but that was from the SEC championship vs LSU.
Still, point taken.
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I hate jawja more than anyone
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:44 AM
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But the car accident last week was tragic, and really coulda happened anywhere. Four adults got into an accident leaving a bar; that they were all associated with a football program is secondary to the story. Using this to throw shade on a rival is trashy.
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Re: I hate jawja more than anyone
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:39 AM
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Taking players to a tatty bar ain't trashy?
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No one "took them" they're not 5 year olds
Jan 25, 2023, 11:08 AM
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It was two guys and two girls how do you know they weren't dating each other? It's not like they loaded up the old coach liner and sent the whole defense to da club. You know for certain there aren't any guys on our squad who don't enjoy frequenting the gentleman's clubs?
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Re: BS
Jan 25, 2023, 9:38 PM
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Very damning
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Re: I hate jawja more than anyone
Jan 29, 2023, 7:45 PM
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Try getting tatty past these poster police!...see what I told you!
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What violations have they committed?***
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:55 AM
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I'm not sure the NCAA has the ability to drop the hammer on anyone at this point.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 25, 2023, 12:22 PM
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NCAA be like..
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You'd have better luck asking Thor to drop his hammer on uga
Jan 25, 2023, 9:56 AM
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I believe Vikings have an intense distaste for slobbering animals as well.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:01 AM
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The NCAA won't do anything to UGA. They have no power anymore. However, you can bet that there will be lawsuits coming from a lot of different places and UGA will be dragged into it because they have the deep pockets. That's just the way things work now in the good ole USA.
Does the coach get tarnished? Who knows, but it probably depends on if he knew stuff like that was going on with his staff which I doubt he did. It's certainly not good publicity. However, the coach has two Natties so he's got a lot of clout and I don't see him being affected.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 28, 2023, 5:09 PM
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Rest assured the Kirbs knows everything that goes on. Doesn’t matter though he’s the boss and that’s where the buck stops. He will claim ignorance though which I’m sure he learned from an early age if he watched and listened to any of our politicians growing up
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I posted more detail in another thread.
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:08 AM
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But, I do not understand how it is considered good practice for employees of the university to be escorting football players on an entertainment excursion at 2:30 in the morning.
If it were two 26 year old male employees of the school escorting 5 football players to a pool hall I would say that is inappropriate.
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It's not a good practice. Tragically, both an employee and
Jan 25, 2023, 5:51 PM
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student athlete lost their lives due to what will probably be determined to be extremely poor choices of all involved.
I would think the NCAA will have an issue with it, as well as the Georgia administration. I can't imagine any program authorizing or tolerating that type of issue.
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Re: It's not a good practice. Tragically, both an employee and
Jan 25, 2023, 8:48 PM
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There may be a civil settlement of sorts, but ain’t nobody trying to kill the cash cow.
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Re: It's not a good practice. Tragically, both an employee and
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I suspect lawyers are already involved.
Just thinking out loud here. UGA says it was not a college activity. But, a university employee was driving the vehicle with football players on board. The vehicle was a rented vehicle. The report I read said it was unclear who rented the vehicle. If the university rented the vehicle, they could definitely be in a world of legal trouble.
parents perspective: A university employee took my son out to a strip club at 2:30 in the morning. Then that employee drove the vehicle in a reckless manner killing my son.
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Re: It's not a good practice. Tragically, both an employee and
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Jan 25, 2023, 10:47 PM
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You're being very naive if you don't think this is happening at every school.
The only difference is the tragedy actually occurred at UGA.
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There's a popular strip club in downtown Athens
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:55 PM
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There are no strip clubs in Clemson.
You reckon there may be a whole lot more of it happening right there in Athens? What about the armpit of SC, Columbia? How many strips clubs are there? You think shady Shane promotes a little bit of that environment while recruiting?
You said something about being naive?
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 25, 2023, 10:28 AM
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Everyone knows that they have been running a crooked program and that the SEC has been covering for them.
Sad that it took the death of two young people to expose them to the broad daylight. It is my hope that a good investigative journalist outside of Georgia and with no ties to Disney and the ESPN/SEC den of thieves sinks their teeth into this rotten program.
Aside from the fact that they were straight cheating before NIL and are straight cheating with the NIL, you cannot tell me that what happened to those two young people are in the “best interest of the athlete”
NCAA - step up and do your job. And take the SEC down a peg. UGA and the SEC don’t care one bit about the student or their well-being.
Maybe it does just “mean more” down there. Maybe it means doing whatever it takes to win and not caring who gets hurt of dies along the way.
-1. You do not seem to be kidding. But two UGA deaths have nothing to do with the state of college football recruiting.
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I hate Georgia more than anyone
Jan 25, 2023, 6:00 PM
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But I don't understand what they did that was a violation. Perhaps you know more than I, but I don't think the tragedy had anything to do with rules violations. And as far as them being crooked, that's probably true ..but no more than the rest of the SEC.
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Re: I hate Georgia more than anyone
Jan 25, 2023, 11:23 PM
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Look at it this way:
A university employee was out with enrolled student athletes (one of which who was underaged) at a strip club. Bad optics but nothing more than something to be frowned out.
However,...
If that employee bought drinks for them (hypothetical), was drunk (hypothetical) and then drove them in a vehicle that was rented by the university (hypothetical)....then the university is in deep deep trouble.
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Orange Blooded [3073]
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:02 PM
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The fact that you would use the deaths of these two people to fashion yet more "proof" Georgia is a cheating program says a great deal about you. Must be all that "character" stuff you read so much about here.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 27, 2023, 7:43 PM
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Explain why team personnel were driving players in a team rented vehicle to an unofficial event. On it's face that is a rules violation.
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Orange Blooded [4009]
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or are you the one with the character issue?
Jan 29, 2023, 8:34 PM
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hiding behind the death of 2 young people
blaming a poor young girl for just doing her job and losing her life in the process so you can protect your “sacred” university from liability and exposure to the truth?
i suppose time will tell…
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
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Jan 29, 2023, 9:17 PM
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The proof is for the charge of lack of institutional control. That is a charge that the NCAA uses to indict an entire athletic department. This is a tragedy, but based on the facts available, UGA is responsible. Seems like this is not an isolated occurrence. I'm sure there is evidence that this "fleet" vehicle was used by this young lady regularly for personal use. Providing transportation for entertainment purposes to student athletes is a major offense. The horrible part of this is that 2 young people have now died as a result of negligence by the University of Georgia. That is how the courts will see it as well.
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Orange Blooded [3730]
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You said “NCAA”…that’s funny!
Jan 25, 2023, 10:17 PM
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Orange Blooded [2016]
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Spoken like a champ
Jan 25, 2023, 10:38 PM
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Maybe it does just “mean more” down there. Maybe it means doing whatever it takes to win and not caring who gets hurt of dies along the way.
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Re: Spoken like a champ
Jan 27, 2023, 6:39 PM
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Won't even get a comment from the NCAA. There are in the SEC you know.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 27, 2023, 7:41 PM
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you do remember that we had a player that was racing and seriously injured another driver in the past year or so, right?
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Orange Blooded [4009]
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Yes I do, and they were absolutely wrong in what they did
Jan 29, 2023, 8:38 PM
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Were they being driven by staffers?
Were they in university vehicles?
Were they taking recruits to the club?
So what is your point?
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Letterman [257]
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What are you mad about? That they shouldn’t have
Jan 29, 2023, 9:00 PM
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had that car? That’s pretty minor, couldn’t care less what car they used, result is the exact same, and that’s the big deal. Not whether they used a university car when they should have used their personal car. Small potatoes
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Orange Blooded [4009]
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I think it’s wrong that UGA expects young women they employ
Jan 29, 2023, 9:10 PM
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to take players and recruits clubbing, and then throws them under the bus when they can’t defend themselves to avoid liability, truth and the consequences of running a crooked program
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Letterman [257]
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What specific violation did they commit besides the car?***
Jan 29, 2023, 9:12 PM
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Orange Blooded [4009]
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Re: What specific violation did they commit besides the car?***
Jan 29, 2023, 9:36 PM
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Unreasonable entertainment expenses (the club…)
Impermissible travel benefits (to and from Atlanta)
Sponsorship of underage drinking during an official recruiting visit (that’s actually a crime too)
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I know that a complete investigation will reveal that this was not an isolated incident, and that this behavior by staff was not discouraged through proper diligence and discipline, but rather encouraged by grown men put into positions of authority and leadership that should know better.
Complete lack of institutional control and blatant disregard for ncaa rules (and laws it would appear)
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Letterman [257]
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Did the school pay for the expenses at the club?
Jan 30, 2023, 10:01 AM
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Were there recruits at the club?
Is it confirmed that there was underage drinking?
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Orange Blooded [4009]
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Yes, confirmed video evidence of recruits at the club
Jan 30, 2023, 11:04 AM
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I’m sure they all had diet pepsi’s
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Letterman [257]
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Do you have a link? No articles I’ve looked at say anything
Jan 30, 2023, 11:29 AM
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about recruits being at the club.
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Re: The NCAA should drop the hammer on UGA
Jan 30, 2023, 11:48 AM
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Won't happen! The NCAA is neutered, they have no balls! What authority they once had is now non-existent! Any penalty they might order the designated school could and should ignore it and say we will see you in court! Until rules are enforced across the boards and all are held to the same standards then they are as useless as #### on a boar hog!
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