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Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 30, 2015, 6:30 PM
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Sig Ep, several of its members and Clemson University. New, interesting facts released along with lawsuit including that Tucker had gotten into a argument with a member the morning he died..he went head first over the railing..saying the fraternity is known for making pledges jump off the bridge and that several members knew he was missing but did not contact police for 7 hours. I say a prayer everyday that these boys get what's comin to them. Sorry, no link
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 30, 2015, 6:57 PM
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I am sorry for the loss of Tucker and my condolences goes out to his family. If these are the facts, then the members need to be held accountable for their actions. I do not see that Clemson did anything wrong in this case from what I am hearing. If someone violated the law then they should be punished.
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 30, 2015, 7:03 PM
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I agree, it's unfortunate that Clemson by association may be culpable. I believe all this family wants is the truth and they have been patient long enough and this is their only recourse! I am so sorry for this family!
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Re: you can read the lawsuits...
Mar 30, 2015, 9:36 PM
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I'm totally for this family filing a lawsuit against the fraternity and the University if they did not fully cooperate with policies. I pray for the family that the truth finally comes out and criminal actions are taken against the individuals that may be guilty! There have been to many unsolved incidents over the last 20 yrs or so in the Clemson area involving students, missing students, and,unsolved deaths! I am a proud graduate of Clemson, but this family deserves answers. As far as the frat boys, someone will eventually squeal, to save there own tails.
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Baldtiger2000
Mar 30, 2015, 10:30 PM
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I think you're full of ####. Gotta feeling you're more like a bald ####. My kids will never spend a second in that crime/gang infested city of Columbia.
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Re: Baldtiger2000
Mar 30, 2015, 10:58 PM
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To Bowlhunter, how does what I said make me a baldcock u sh*t for brains. Everything I stated was facts about the missing persons and unsolved deaths in Clemson. Fyi, do your research, there were 2 incidents in 96/97 that I was referring to. I was a student there at that time. Guess you are maybe a Sig ep or your little spoiled kid is, either way this isn't about you or me, it's about the truth coming out, the university doing a better job for monitoring the frats, and the local police departments unable to do their job like in past years!
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Re: Baldtiger2000
Mar 31, 2015, 10:30 AM
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How many unsolved deaths have they been????
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Re: I know of two
Mar 31, 2015, 12:06 PM
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None of those were on Campus so how can you blame Clemson for this?
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I don't blame Clemson University for either of them......
Mar 31, 2015, 12:31 PM
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just pointing out that there are unsolved murders in Clemson.
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Re: I don't blame Clemson University for either of them......
Apr 2, 2015, 10:12 AM
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They are unsolved murders in almost every town. What's your point?
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What's your point?***
Apr 2, 2015, 10:49 AM
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Re: What's your point?***
Apr 5, 2015, 12:20 PM
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So you are just looking for somebody else to blame instead of the frat boys.
You have no ponit that's my point
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Why not pray for the family and that there was no crime.
Apr 1, 2015, 2:58 PM
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I am not a frat man, but people joining these organizations know, or should know, what they are getting into. Tragically, these things happen with these ridiculous initiations. This kind of stuff is what you see at The Citadel and other military schools.
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Re: Why not pray for the family and that there was no crime.
Apr 1, 2015, 3:53 PM
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Soooo, you are saying they should know they are getting into possibly dying?? Smh. Oh, and PLEASE inform us of all the Citadel cadets that have died from "initiations". I ll pull up a chair and wait...
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Re: Why not pray for the family and that there was no crime.
Apr 1, 2015, 4:55 PM
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In the military they are referred to as "training accidents." The citadel wrote the book on hazing cover ups. Don't kid youself.
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Re: Why not pray for the family and that there was no crime.
Apr 2, 2015, 10:52 AM
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Again..didn't say anything about covering up hazing. What deaths have been covered up at the Citadel? Sounds like you have a personal problem with the Citadel since that's the ONLY school you called out
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Clemson was and is responsible for ensuring no hazing
Mar 30, 2015, 9:23 PM
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is taking place. The fraternity emailed Clemson officials asking for permission to go on the morning run and Clemson did not respond. Hazing was taking place, regardless of what the police originally stated. Clemson is liable for the well being of its students, especially when they could have prevented all of this. I hope the Hipps family wins and gets everything they ask for.
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Re: Clemson was and is responsible for ensuring no hazing
Mar 30, 2015, 9:27 PM
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I'm not sure a morning run is hazing.
If so, the US government is hazing the military.
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Read the lawsuit. The facts start on page 12 and the event
Mar 30, 2015, 9:31 PM
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is described.
"530 AM. Wear black and be ####### quiet"
Hipps was required to bring breakfast for 30 brothers and pledges and was confronted when he showed up without it.
One fraternity brother stayed toward the rear of the group and reminded the pledges "don't let us pass you."
It's all there. Prime examples of hazing.
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Those aren't "facts"....
Mar 30, 2015, 10:57 PM
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those are claims made by the plaintiffs. Big difference.
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Claims made in civil lawsuits are often totally
Mar 31, 2015, 6:35 AM
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ridiculous. Lawyers and judges are professional liars. Everybody knows this and accepts this. They can claim whatever they want to, no matter how ridiculous. The next phase is to find a jury stupid enough to manipulate. Whoever manipulates better wins! The longer the lawyers can string it out, the more money they make
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They are not suing as a money grab people
Mar 31, 2015, 6:43 AM
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This is an effort to be able to depose people under oath. Get answers.
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Such honorable lawyers, working for free to find the truth
Mar 31, 2015, 6:53 AM
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nay, they are working for a percentage of the future award. Pay no attention to the 25 million dollar lawsuit, it's not about money lol
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The University won't have to pay any money***
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The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 1:39 PM
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on that bridge.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 7:38 AM
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It occurred while he was a student at the university during a university sanctioned activity so, yes, I believe the university is involved by association. I also believe this family is only seeking the truth and I hope they find it no matter whose feathers they ruffle. They have been more than patient in this whole affair and they obviously felt this was their only recourse. Somebody knows the truth.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 7:41 AM
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After all this time I personally think it's obvious only a select few know what actually happened and they're specifically not speaking about it because they're implicated in some way. If several of the members knew to some degree what happened I think the info would be leaked by now.
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Well said johnstone...some on here really
Mar 31, 2015, 8:57 AM
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disgust me. It is almost as if they hold Clemson above all else, even family. Guess what, if this was my son and Clemson could've somehow helped something like this not happen..you're d$mn right I'm suing the school as well as those little sh$ts that were on the "run". And to those on here that are so worried about fact or allegation...phone records are facts.. Never mind the calls and texts that went out to members or groups of members and the calls and texts that were deleted..to text his girlfriend and tell her that Tucker was seen in the library to "buy some time" when he was actually dead? I hope they burn
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Re: Well said johnstone...some on here really
Mar 31, 2015, 10:37 AM
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I understand what you're saying but what could Clemson have done? If i understand this they called to ask permission at 5:30 am? That's garbage you telling me they didn't know they were going on the run before then?
I call everyone that was on the run into the police dept. and tell them all will be charged with wrongful death if they don't tell what they know. They'd start singing like a flock of hens.
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Re: Well said johnstone...some on here really
Mar 31, 2015, 10:45 AM
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Completely agree on that..CU could have done nothing with a request made at 5:30 in the morning. Think my whole thing is did Clemson know this was going on previously to this? Had there been complaints or was this frat notorious for doing this? If the answer is yes then that is when I think CU should be held accountable. If they had no idea? Then no of course
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Re: Well said johnstone...some on here really
Mar 31, 2015, 10:54 AM
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Maybe the parents should have taught their son that he should not do something dumb just to fit in? I feel for the family but if he jumped then it is on him...not the frat and not the university. How did we as a society get to the point where we hold others accountable for our actions?
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Re: Well said johnstone...some on here really
Mar 31, 2015, 12:14 PM
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Yeah..I'm just gonna move on and pretend I didn't just read something so assanine..smfh
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 11:14 AM
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They were going to make that run no matter what Clemson admin. said. Why else would they wear black and tell everybody to be quiet. There's nothing Clemson could have done to stop this unless they locked them in the dorms.
It's hard to make 50, 18 to 20 yr old boys do anything once they make up their mind and be d@mn
anyone that tells them they can't.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
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but they could at least have protected themselves by only ONE email.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 2:02 PM
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I disagree that pledge activities are University sanctioned events. These are private clubs of consenting adults that happen to live on campus as far as I am concerned. They receive no university support- quite the contrary.
Those guilty of obstruction and leaving the scene should have the book thrown at them.
The lawsuit should name the US Army corps of engineers and the power companies for letting Hartwell get so shallow.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 4:32 PM
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Answer this then genius...if sororities and frats have nothing to do with the university and are merely consenting adults living on campus then why or how do the universities, such as Oklahoma, come in and shut one down, disband it and toss the kids. And as for your smart a$$ remark about suing the Army corps and engineers...wouldn't really matter how full the lake was if he went over near the shore and hit the rocks, would it?
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Mar 31, 2015, 4:36 PM
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Any university club could be banned. They could ban the Underwater Tennis Club if they were acting poorly.
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Re: The University is not responsible for what happened
Apr 1, 2015, 4:53 PM
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Frats can't be disbanded by the University. All they can do is kick them off campus, which causes a Streisand effect and increases their popularity amongst the party kids. See Pi Kappa Alpha pretty much everywhere. You can't stop this stuff, you can only drive it underground. If someone meant the boy ill, they would just black ball him and end his pledge association with the fraternity. They would not try to kill him. This was a terrible accident handled with zero class by those involved, but little more.
College students are adults, stop infantilizing them.
Fear not, the days of any group that is majority white male surviving on college campuses is coming to a close. Maybe it is for the best that the greek system goes away.
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Re: Such honorable lawyers, working for free to find the truth
Mar 31, 2015, 9:40 PM
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You can believe what makes you happy. The suit is all about getting people in depositions. It is very similar to the federal lawsuit in the lauren spears case at indiana university. They know the money's not there as do lauren spears. If it helps you sleep, you can continue trying to shame the parents of a dead young man trying to seek answers.
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Yup, some people on here are dumb
Apr 1, 2015, 1:23 PM
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This allows the family to actually get some questions answered, on the record, with the power of the court, and financial ruin for those involved. One of these kids will crack.
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I'm not saying that I am against the lawsuit
Mar 31, 2015, 7:03 AM
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I'm saying that you can't look at a complaint and assume that it is factual. I'm sure if is was my lawsuit my lawyers would do the same thing. The real facts will probably never be known.
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But the phone records have to be legit
Apr 1, 2015, 1:19 PM
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Soooo, I say lock up the ones directly responsible, find something to charge anyone that knew he was missing, disband the frat, expel anyone else involved, and break out the checkbook and settle this before it turns into an even bigger media #### storm.
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Re: Clemson was and is responsible for ensuring no hazing
Mar 31, 2015, 6:58 AM
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What's the difference in Clemson football taking a run and sig ep taking a run if the intention is to only run? How is Clemson supposed to distinguish that?
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If Clemson didn't respond, how was permission granted. If it
Mar 31, 2015, 10:01 AM
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wasn't, those involved were operating outside the established governing structure. Clearly, the fact that they had to ASK for permission means that Clemson has some structure governing the conduct of organizations. I'm GDI and could not care less if the Greek system was dismantled, but I'm not sure Clemson can be held to a great deal of fault.
Is your expectation that Clemson provide a faculty member to attend each activity?
Personal responsibility is actually a thing, as is individual accountability.
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Re: Clemson was and is responsible for ensuring no hazing
Apr 2, 2015, 11:02 AM
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> is taking place. The fraternity emailed Clemson
> officials asking for permission to go on the morning
> run and Clemson did not respond. Hazing was taking
> place, regardless of what the police originally
> stated. Clemson is liable for the well being of its
> students, especially when they could have prevented
> all of this. I hope the Hipps family wins and gets
> everything they ask for.
So when is a morning run hazing or did they request permission to encourage a pledge to jump off a bridge? BTW, no response is not the same as permission.
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 30, 2015, 7:56 PM
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I agree with the sig ep charges, but I don't like the university being sued. I hope justice is served regardless it is a bad situation
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I would have done the same if it were my child***
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Apr 1, 2015, 1:32 PM
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A lot of times in suits like this you add all the parties who may be liable just to make sure you preserve your rights. There may be issues with the statute of limitations, or a tort claims act issue (different requirements for suing a state entity) that the plaintiff has to deal with. Separately, having the university as a party affords the plaintiff a tactical advantage when it comes to obtaining information in discovery.
While it doesn't look like the university will be liable for this at this point, you never know what kind of information may come out once you start deposing people and gathering all the information.
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the facts are pretty damning.
Mar 30, 2015, 9:33 PM
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I wouldn't want to be the individuals who waited 7 hours before contacting the authorities. Or one of the people in a group text who thinks simply deleting messages gets rid of them forever.
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Oh I agree. I'm just saying a lot of the statements in the
Mar 30, 2015, 9:39 PM
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Lawsuit are not facts, but what they believe to have happened. There is a difference.
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I didn't read anything that made it clear anyone was...
Mar 30, 2015, 11:02 PM
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directly responsible for Tucker Hipps jumping off the bridge except Tucker Hipps. They basically admit that in their complaint. They need a better attorney.
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If the fraternity had a history....
Mar 31, 2015, 8:25 AM
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of making its pledges jump from the bridge into the water and swim back to shore, that would be pretty damning and would absolutely constitute hazing, and on that basis alone, it is entirely plausible that a jury would rule in favor of the plaintiff.
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Re: the facts are pretty damning.
Apr 1, 2015, 1:34 PM
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Allegations in a lawsuit are just that. They do not have to be backed up by anything that we would typically consider to be evidence or proof. However, that they've used a specific time frame of 7 hours makes me think they have some basis for making that allegation.
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On Campus frats will soon be a thing of the past
Mar 30, 2015, 9:29 PM
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The schools wont have anything to do with the liability and bad rep associated with something they have so little control over
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The Burden of Proof in a Civl Trial is a LOT less than a
Mar 31, 2015, 5:52 AM
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Criminal trial. I guess the Sheriff hasn't found enough evidence to press charges that would stand up in a criminal proceedings. Looks like including the University in the suite is just symbolic since the University cannot be held financially liable due to Tort laws. Looks like the boys are in big trouble though and it will be costly. Nothing is ever permanently deleted. Yea when Tucker was first missing authorities should have been notified. Maybe he could have been helped? Probably thought he would just land in the water. Well he didn't and now he is dead so their is a price to pay for stupidity that leads to death. IF that is what happened. Ya I bet people will start squealing in court IMO
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Re: On Campus frats will soon be a thing of the past
Mar 31, 2015, 10:51 AM
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you went all the way back to 1963? You've waited along time to post this
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Re: On Campus frats will soon be a thing of the past
Apr 1, 2015, 7:50 AM
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No, it didn't take going "all the way back" to find an example, and it's certainly is nothing I was "waiting to post" as you put it.
Just pointing out it's not a "new" ritual. Sadly, there are a lot of examples of hazing and a total lack of regard for the well-being of fellow students by fraternities here at Clemson in any year you choose. 
The lawsuit isn't going to fix any of the past, but it may well serve to curtail what's an obvious and long-standing problem with an otherwise fine school.
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Good for them...someone knows what happened to that young
Mar 31, 2015, 9:04 AM
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man and hopefully this will make them talk.
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I know the family of one of the kids named in the lawsuit...
Mar 31, 2015, 9:19 AM
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They actually live a couple of houses down from me.
Their son is curently a senior at Clemson and their daughter graduated a year or two ago.
A really bad situation for everyone involved.
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It looks like from the outside a group of guys trying to
Mar 31, 2015, 9:21 AM
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cover their hineys and everyone agreeing not to talk. I get it....I went to The Citadel...we had stuff going on that everyone knew was going on that we didn't talk about but there was always a line that you didn't cross and if you did there were consequences. People were kicked out...punishments were harsh and justified. Put 20 yrs old in charge of 18 yr olds and stupid stuff happens.
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Yup.....
Mar 31, 2015, 9:36 AM
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In addition to playing soccer, I was also in a fraternity at Clemson and some hazing rituals took place in both. There was never any malicious intent and it was all pretty harmless until things go unexpectedly awry and someone gets hurt or worse.
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agreed and we all know we didn't have the best judgement
Mar 31, 2015, 9:52 AM
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when we were 20
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As a parent it is heartbreaking to read the account in the
Mar 31, 2015, 9:53 AM
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lawsuit. Is it factual? We don't know but it certainly sounds like they have evidence and what they assert makes sense.
If records of these text messages exist and they have any witnesses at all, I don't see how criminal charges don't follow.
What bothers me most in reading the account in the lawsuit is that they didn't call for help. if they had, would Tucker be alive and well today? I know a man who suffered a major head trauma from a fall but got medical treatment within an hour. He was in intensive care for weeks but is fine today. No family should have to wonder about that. If these "young men" knew he had gone over that bridge and didn't call for help right away as far as I am concerned they are murderers.
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The purpose of the Summons and Complaint....
Mar 31, 2015, 10:04 AM
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is to sound convincing. The Answer to the Complaint that will be filed by the defendants will no doubt be equally convincing although they're more likely to simply deny almost every allegation listed in the Complaint.
It will then be up to the judge and jury to determine the credibility of both compelling arguments
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Re: As a parent it is heartbreaking to read the account in the
Mar 31, 2015, 10:21 AM
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Agree...the not calling for help is just mind blowing. Also texting the girlfriend to make her think everything was ok..man that's sh$tty
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 31, 2015, 12:36 PM
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we used to jump off that sucker all the time. If you hit the water the wrong way , you could easily dislocate your shoulder or have the wind knocked out of you. We always looked out for each other when we did it, and went two at a time. If those kids left him there to drown, then they have no business attending this university.
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 31, 2015, 1:17 PM
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Oh yeah..that's always gone on. But I bet you jumped off in the middle or towards the middle, didn't you? Why would he "choose", as some here want to think, to jump off near the shore. Reeks of maliciousness
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Re: Tucker Hipps' family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against
Mar 31, 2015, 9:46 PM
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yeah, a few pilings out.
rumor was it was too shallow by the pilings and you would get stuck in the mud if you jumped there.
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Yea, to me, regardless of what went down
Mar 31, 2015, 9:57 PM
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The Sig Ep reaction was (ah ####, we're going to get in trouble, best run) instead of (ah ####, he's really hurt, we've got to see if we can help him).
If nothing else, they are a pack of cowards.
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Re: Yea, to me, regardless of what went down
Mar 31, 2015, 10:05 PM
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if that is how it went down, that is the saddest group of people I have ever heard of that were affiliated with this university.
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That's how it had to go down, right?
Mar 31, 2015, 10:08 PM
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Unless the spirit just up and moved Hipps to jump off the bridge with no one looking, in the middle of a morning run...which doesn't make much sense to me. I too have jumped off those pilings, but don't think I would have done so if not compelled by others.
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Re: That's how it had to go down, right?
Mar 31, 2015, 10:13 PM
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I have not really paid attention to the details of this story. did they conclude that he jumped into shallow water?
we did the train trestle a few times and my roomates' dog had followed us out onto the tracks once. After we jumped, we were sure we heard the train coming and looked up to see the dumass was just sitting up there looking down at us. I do not think I have ever moved that fast in my life to get him off the tracks.
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Re: That's how it had to go down, right?
Apr 1, 2015, 6:59 AM
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All anyone can do is speculate at this point. I know a lot of Sig Eps currently at school and up until this event I would say they were very nice kids and one of the more innocent "upper tier" fraternities. But what seems to have gone down is him surfacing not alive and they ran (couldn't imagine him being still alive and them just bailing). Having said they were good and respectable kids, I think that situations like this really bring out one's true character...not all of them are bad, but any of the brothers there or know what happened that are now silent are disgusting (if speculation is fact).
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Last fall those "very nice" kids were an embarassment
Apr 1, 2015, 9:36 AM
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to Clemson when I brought a buddy from work to the Louiville football game (he is a Louiville grad). We parked on the street in front of their house the morning of the game - like I have parked on North Clemson on many games for over 30 years.
No one was charging for parking on the street (in fact Clemson told me they can't) and no one was even there. We get back after the game and the "brothers" had blocked us in - parked an inch in front and behind us. They admitted it was done on purpose "to teach us a lesson" and took over an hour to find someone that could move one of the cars.
Up until that point the Louiville fan remarked repeatedly on how beautiful the campus was and how friendly our fans were. He never said anything during the parking ordeal but also never said another nice thing about Clemson.
When it took at least 2 of them to block us in and several others to tell us how they did it on purpose to "teach us a lesson" I don't buy that this is a couple of rogue kids - there is something badly wrong with the culture of that fraternity.
I hope it's not all the fraternity's but wonder....
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Re: Last fall those "very nice" kids were an embarassment
Apr 1, 2015, 10:51 AM
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You should have called the law
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Re: Last fall those "very nice" kids were an embarassment
Apr 1, 2015, 11:28 AM
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I would have told them that I had a "medical emergency" and that I was gonna start kicking windows to put one of the cars in to neutral. What a bunch of punks
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Re: Last fall those "very nice" kids were an embarassment
Apr 1, 2015, 11:31 AM
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And to tell a grown man that they are "teaching him a lesson" ..like I've said before..hope they burn
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Looks like they got their message across
Apr 1, 2015, 1:11 PM
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They were trying to convey the fact that they are a bunch of spoiled ######.
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If you are told to jump off this bridge in the pitch black
Apr 1, 2015, 7:34 AM
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of night - do you go in head first or feet first if it is of your own choosing ?
Those that have done it - what say you ?
Sounds REALLY fishy.
Terrible, terrible tragedy that seems malicious & completely avoidable.
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I'm going with feet first
Apr 1, 2015, 8:38 AM
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If you got into an argument and someone pushed you, would you go head first or feet first?
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What if he didn't really mean to push him off the bridge?
Apr 1, 2015, 2:47 PM
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Frat daddy is mad b/c he didn't get his Bacon, Egg, and Cheese and Choco milk like he ordered. He confronts Hipps on the bridge, b/c Hipps is pledge leader. Hipps says he didn't have the time/money to get it done. Frat daddy pushes Hipps...Hipps stumbles and goes over the railing.
That would explain why Mr. Frat daddy was shining his flashlight into the water, and why Hipps went head first. It would also explain the cover up, because you don't cover up and accident, because, you know, it was an accident.
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Re: If you are told to jump off this bridge in the pitch black
Apr 1, 2015, 2:07 PM
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What's really sad to me is that these 18-19 year old kids are so impressionable and eager for acceptance, that they will do virtually ANYTHING to fit in and be part of a peer group they deem as cool.
The greek life never appealed to me as I really value individualism and being one's true self. Which I think gets lost in large groups of people such as fraternities.
I'm known many great people who did the greek life and I don't diss them for it at all, I just really don't get the desire to be someone's b*tch for a few months just to find acceptance. There's so many other ways to live your life, man.
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So you're saying feet first ?***
Apr 1, 2015, 2:40 PM
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Re: So you're saying feet first ?***
Apr 1, 2015, 3:02 PM
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