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Oculus Spirit [90753]
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Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 1:27 PM
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by his NOT wanting to get rid of the Filibuster (proof shown)..
thus I feel 50% better about the ole Ball Coach! ??
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Hope Saban & our deer Tigerbalm1 realize that we are not a Democracy but rather a wonderful CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC made up of individual states..
and that our astute Founders knew not to trust a federal government and thus mandated in the Constitution that the important national voting matters reside in the states thru their elected Legislatures, and not with the Governor or Sec of State..as happened illegally in several key swing states during the 2020 election which may have slanted the vote).
Oh, the Federal Government can make these changes legally thru an amendment to the Constitutional but it would be difficult, thank goodness, since Our Founders were much more savvy than these modern politicians!!
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 1:56 PM
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He evidently caught a lot of negative feedback and was afraid it may hurt his commercial endeavers. Satan is just like a politician, go with the flow.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Plus he stepped into due to having so many black players. He should have stayed out of that one, even if he is accurate.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 5:05 PM
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Plus he stepped into due to having so many black players. He should have stayed out of that one, even if he is accurate.
LOL he stepped in as a attempt to counter A&M's recent recruiting.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 6:48 PM
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No..talking about politics.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 2:02 PM
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I doubt he knows the details of that compromised and partisan bill.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 2:17 PM
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Filibuster or no filibuster is he in favor of not having ID to vote? Is he in favor of harvesting votes? Is he in favor of no rules concerning write in votes? Is he in favor of federal government controlling how states conduct their elections? I would like to know more about exactly where he stands if he is going to use his position to influence federal legislation. This is a little different from influencing the public to buy aflac.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 2:22 PM
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Polls in past years showed 2/3 support FOR voter id across party lines.
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Oculus Spirit [90753]
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^^ AND, Voter ID MUST be stronger than an Utility Bill..
Jan 22, 2022, 2:39 PM
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Saying it MUST contain a pic of “that” voter for verification..
Something the DEMs would not allow and something the REPUBs are too weak to support.
WE THE PEoPLE are screwwed!!
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Re: ^^ AND, Voter ID MUST be stronger than an Utility Bill..
Jan 22, 2022, 3:21 PM
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NC voted for voter ID and won. Unfortunately though, Cooper, the democratic gov. wouldnt allow it.
Not sure how he overturned it, but he did.
With illegals being allowed to vote in NY now, I suspect we'll never have honest elections again.
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Re: ^^ AND, Voter ID MUST be stronger than an Utility Bill..
Jan 22, 2022, 3:28 PM
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Re: ^^ AND, Voter ID MUST be stronger than an Utility Bill..
Jan 22, 2022, 5:38 PM
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Really. You don’t know. This is the core problem. Lack of education. In a basic civics course, you learn that for a bill to become law, the head of the Executive branch must sign a bill. Without that, it is a cute piece of paper. Voter ID laws are a solution looking for a problem that do way more harm than good. Those are the facts. Feel free to check the FBI statistics. Btw, get your facts straight on NY law. It applies to electing NYC officials, not state or federal. Additionally, these new voters must be US Permanent Residents or those authorized to work in the US. There are a dozen similar laws in Maryland and Vermont.
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Re: ^^ AND, Voter ID MUST be stronger than an Utility Bill..
Jan 22, 2022, 5:59 PM
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I didn't say illegals could vote for national elections. They are allowed to vote locally. It's ridiculous to think that voter ID's do more harm than good. If you want election integrity then it will help ensure 1 vote, for 1 person and that person is legal and registered to vote.
Otherwise all elections integrity will be jeopardized.
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CNN is a reliable news source, no doubt.***
Jan 22, 2022, 10:19 PM
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79% of African Americans believe you should be required to
Jan 22, 2022, 5:08 PM
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have an ID to vote. But the left says anyone against the proposed voting law is racist. Heck, you have to have a photo ID to get a fishing license I believe...You certainly have to have one when you buy or sell real estate.
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There was nothing in the bill allowing people to vote
Jan 22, 2022, 8:38 PM
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without ID, The bill would have set up national standards for voter identification. The bill would have also established protections for election officials against intimidation and partisan interference. To further ensure election integrity, the Freedom to Vote Act would have required states to use voting systems with a verifiable paper trail and establish national standards for voter identification. It also proposed 2 weeks of early voting, prevented states from ending mail-in Voting, and proposed election day be a national holiday, as it is in most countries.
What do you find unfair here?
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Legend [18782]
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Thanks for the breakdown.
Jan 22, 2022, 8:46 PM
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I had assumed it included something about not having to use ID based on some of the posts here.
Voting should be on a national holiday. There is only one reason that I can think of why someone would be against it unless someone enlightens me here.
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Oculus Spirit [76751]
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Ehhhh,
Jan 22, 2022, 8:59 PM
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Re: Thanks for the breakdown.
Jan 22, 2022, 9:07 PM
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I used my medical marijuana card to vote in the last cycle because it had my correct address on it. Had I used my driver's license, which had my original address on it from when I moved here, they could have rejected me at the polls. If people could get State IDs as easily as they could get a new medical marijuana card, there would be no argument from any liberal about needing one at the polls. I mean the medical marijuana registry is like ten times more convenient than the DMV here.
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The DMV is why everyone thinks the US GOV is worthless***
Jan 22, 2022, 9:37 PM
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Re: The DMV is why everyone thinks the US GOV is worthless***
Jan 22, 2022, 9:39 PM
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funny how efficiently the Florida state government works when they are raking in taxes from potheads.
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Re: The DMV is why everyone thinks the US GOV is worthless***
Jan 22, 2022, 10:27 PM
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Re: There was nothing in the bill allowing people to vote
Jan 22, 2022, 9:12 PM
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Will the ID used for voting be more substantial than arrest warrants that the current Democrat Administration is allowing illegal immigrants use for IDs to travel in the U.S. now?
Doesn't the bill also allow inmates to vote and remove any state requirements to prevent felons from voting?
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Re: There was nothing in the bill allowing people to vote
Jan 22, 2022, 9:37 PM
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no, inmates convicted of crimes can not vote, and as it is is, 43 states already allow former inmates convicted of felonies to vote, including SC and Georgia.. 6 of the other 7 put the law in place during the Jim Crow era to keep blacks off the voter rolls, and never took the law off the books.
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Re: There was nothing in the bill allowing people to vote
Jan 23, 2022, 8:50 AM
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You say it will “ establish national standards for voter identification”. Does it say what those standards are? If it doesn’t then feel very safe assuming there will not be a photo ID included in those standards. The liberals want all these illegal immigrants to eventually have the right to vote. They’re not stupid enough to try to do it in one move. This is a step in that direction. Another step in the process is to give them legal status at some point in time then they will qualify for the relaxed standards like this is proposing and like what they have already accomplished in NY. This is just one step in the process they are trying to put in place to insure their liberal agendas can move forward. Obviously they cannot accomplish these agendas legally working within the current system as evidenced by the votes last week in Congress.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 4:30 PM
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LBB,I am giving you a tu but the other side of Saban stinks of left
wing liberalism.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 4:44 PM
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He like most left wingers have no idea what the Senate was trying to push through. Was not a federal issue in the first place. We are a republic and the states should oversee their voting laws. If you are an American and have an ID there is currently no issues with casting a vote. Funny how things get spun and if you don’t go with the flow you are labeled a conspiracy theorist.
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The Supreme Court absolutely punted on this when they had
Jan 22, 2022, 5:10 PM
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the chance last year concerning Pennsylvania....
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Re: The Supreme Court absolutely punted on this when they had
Jan 22, 2022, 5:51 PM
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You mean the state where the Republicans said there was nothing happening? Where Trumps own lawyers in court said they had no evidence because the cheating was so good it was 'imperceptible'
I'm a conservative but you have to be an absolute idiot to believe the crap spoon fed to republicans. Just read the court documents where lost 65 straight court cases in front of mostly republican judges Trump appointed. Yall are embarassing.
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You are dead wrong
Jan 22, 2022, 8:03 PM
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Spud is referring to the fact the Pennsylvania rules were changed by the Executive Branch and upheld by the Judicial Branch within the Commonwealth rather than being established by the Legislature. In fact, the Dems couldn't get the rules changed in the Legislature, so the Governor took it upon himself to do it. The US Constitution gives the Legislature the primary authority in setting the rules for elections and choosing electors. This is a Constitutional question and why Spud mentioned the US Supreme Court punting.
That you replied about cheating allegations and court cases which would not be Constitutional questions indicates you don't know what you are talking about. Before calling people "idiots" and "embarrassing", you might find it helpful to have a passing understanding of the point the other person was actually making.
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Exactly!***
Jan 22, 2022, 8:31 PM
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He might have missed the point of the punting argument
Jan 22, 2022, 8:53 PM
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But one thing is perfectly clear. Spud thinks that the election was basically fraudulent and that Trump really won. Otherwise, who cares about how the vote was conducted?
To this point, there is no proof whatsoever that the elections were rigged, and if you still believe that then yes, it's embarrassing.
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What??
Jan 22, 2022, 9:24 PM
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Who cares how the vote was conducted?? If you don't see how having an executive within a state changing voting laws deep into an election cycle could be detrimental to the country, I don't know what to tell you. This case was not a question of fact, as in the allegations of cheating, but a question of law. The Constitution can't defend itself. The Supreme Court must. If it punts, the country is adrift.
Of course I know I am fighting a losing battle arguing for the Constitution against a progressive. The fact that so many on the Left want to get rid of the Electoral College means they don't know or don't care why it is necessary in this Republic. Maybe both. For the Left, any Constitutional barrier to their political goals must either be ignored or removed.
For the record, I felt the same way about Trump when he wanted Pence to something outside his magisterial role of counting the electoral votes to help Trump politically. The fact that the Pennsylvania legislature and US Supreme Court punted their duties and prerogatives doesn't mean the VP can usurp the authority.
If we are a "nation of laws", the Constitution must be honored by everyone. Unless of course, you wish to destroy the country.
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Legend [18782]
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You still dodged my main point
Jan 23, 2022, 3:48 AM
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the elections were not 'rigged' by any means and the right candidate won.
Any laws being broken when you got a president and a senator pressuring GA sec of state to "find" 12K votes? I am curious to know whether or not you're ok with this.
Deep down all this voter ID concern is a thinly veiled guise. It is a fix to a problem that doesn't even exist.
The 800lb gorilla in the room is that the demographics of the US are changing and it doesn't favor conservatives and this is why ease of elections is a threat to many.
I am not as progressive as you might think and I see the need for a strong conservative party to keep the woke party in check.
In my opinion, instead of worrying about voting ID conservatives need to have a platform to attract more voters.
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Re: You still dodged my main point
Jan 23, 2022, 9:03 AM
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We do need a platform to attract more voters. Provided those voters are legitimate. The liberal goal is to expand the pool of voters by relaxing the voting requirements to give voting rights to people they have allowed to enter this country illegally. There are 2 steps in this process. 1 - relax voting requirements and 2 - change the status of this large group of people that entered the country illegally. At that point they have increased the liberal voting pool considerably.
And no, I don’t think Trump broke any laws with that conversation. No more so that the Democrats did by “finding” enough mail in votes in PA in the days following the election to declare him the winner. The difference is the Democrats actually pulled it off. Not real sure where laws were broken in that whole process. But actions speak louder than words.
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I see some valid points, Rhet
Jan 23, 2022, 9:13 AM
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even as the so-called TNET liberal, I am against anyone voting who is not a citizen or any type of election fraud whether it helps the candidate of my choice or not.
I just don't agree with the people who say the election was rigged. I didn't like the hanging chad BS, and I don't think in any way shape or form that you can argue that Biden lost this election.
It's very dangerous when the "media" or public figures cry election fraud every time they lose and certainly do not approve with went on in Georgia trying to tamper with the elections.
What happened to civility? Have we all lost our collective minds in the US?
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Re: I see some valid points, Rhet
Jan 23, 2022, 9:35 AM
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Not sure who the civility comment was aimed at? So was the 4 years the liberals and media spent trying to find some Russian election meddling when Trump won in 2016 not just as bad as or maybe worse than, Trump questioning but not taking any action in GA? That also tied up the courts with needless, unfounded accusations.
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Not aimed at you, I promise just in general
Jan 23, 2022, 9:58 AM
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yeah, I didn't agree with harassing Trump. I do not like the man but respected that he won.
Seems like we are getting more tribalistic every year. That's what I meant with the civility comment.
Look, I lived in the Middle East for a while, and if you want to see a really tribal government go there. Though the people were lovely, you don't want to emulate that type of gov.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 5:52 PM
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Funny why he should write a letter to Joe Manchin since they both believe the same thing.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 22, 2022, 6:42 PM
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WRONG BOARD MORON!!
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^^ You speaking to us Earl (aka tigere77) you Moron?
Jan 22, 2022, 7:31 PM
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This was a sports related article that involved the #1 All-time best ever college head coach which contained a political matter he blundered into..so we got a double dip.
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Voting is done archaically in the USA....
Jan 22, 2022, 8:41 PM
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why the long lines, voting during working hours on working days, etc etc?
It could and should be a lot simpler and easier.
I am not speaking for or against any bill because I know little about the one you guys are talking about. All I know is that we could do a lot better.
I waited 3 hours in line to vote in the last presidential election and that was in a predominately white area of Charleston near the house I have there.
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deer Tigerbalm1...your ok’ing FED voting takeover sounded simple BUT
Jan 22, 2022, 9:04 PM
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1. you’ve been hoodwinked my friend..
and more important is:
2. We The “United States” of America are a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC made up of individual STATES, not a Democracy as our all-knowing & genius V.P. keeps saying erroneously!!!!
3. And since our astute Founders (smarter than Biden, Harris & Pelosi thank goodness) did not trust a growing & untrustworthy federal government (sic)..
4. They the Founders gave thru the Constitution the power over their individual elections to the individual states (thru their elected Legislators, not Governors or Sec of States as happened “illegally” in several key swing states during 2020 election that may have turned the vote to Biden).
SAYING..the Federal Government CAN NOT decide it wants to take over the voting from the individual states without an amendment to the Constitution.
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Re: deer Tigerbalm1...your ok’ing FED voting takeover sounded simple BUT
Jan 22, 2022, 9:05 PM
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Amen brother
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Re: Voting is done archaically in the USA....
Jan 22, 2022, 10:42 PM
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We always go around 3 pm, are proud to show our picture id, and hardly ever wait more than 10 minutes.
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3 pm is within the working day hours for many.
Jan 23, 2022, 7:50 AM
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Nobody wants to outright say why they like voting made more complicated in any way, forget the ID thing for a second.
Conservatives are simply afraid that they are slowly becoming the minority. I mean if I am a conservative, GA scares the heck out of me. Biden barely won but he did. GA is a state with a huge and growing urban center and there are more red states to follow GA's path.
The solution for conservatives is not to try and impede voting in any way you can because that's just not sustainable. Eventually, we will figure this out with technology and no one will ever have to wait in a 3-hour line to vote. In fact, that should embarrass everyone no matter your political affiliation.
Look I know people think I am this huge liberal but it's all relative. I don't pretend that on a Clemson sports board the majority here are staunch conservatives. I don't trust any party or any person on the extreme ends of the spectrum, not the QAnons, not the "woke" idiots, and the tribalism in the US these days is downright primative. I grew up in the South, my family is all conservative so y'all don't act like I don't know.
This huge issue is corruption, IMHO, not left or right, not voting scams. Heck, even Nancy P is against banning stock trades for Congress. Those idiots on Capitol Hill keep us divided while they rake in $$$ for themselves.
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Re: 3 pm is within the working day hours for many.
Jan 23, 2022, 9:44 AM
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The liberal approach to stuffing the ballot box is not sustainable either. Bringing in immigrants and giving them voting rights works in the short term. Then when you get into subsequent generations many of them who are hard working people see what big government is actually doing to them instead of for them and vote more conservatively. Just look at the Cuban population in FL. Most now have very conservative views because they know what they left behind in Cuba is not what they want this country to become. Hence the need to keep flooding the borders with new generations to indoctrinate.
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Re: Coach Saban’s being for Fed’s Voting Rights Bill is tempered
Jan 23, 2022, 8:45 AM
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Saban’s moron Biden wants voting rights for illegals so can steal more elections. GOP just wants legal votes with ID and only 1 each. Though understand Saban doesn’t want fair elections like he doesn’t want true final 4. He wants to pick the 4
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