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Orange Blooded [2328]
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Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:06 AM
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That is reality.
Can they have pockets of success? Absolutely. And, they have.
But, can they sustain that success? No. And, they have not. Ever.
Does not bother me ONE bit. If a coach has success at either Georgia or Clemson they will move on to greener pastures where they don’t have to compete with football.
Don’t blame them.
Make the Big Dance occasionally, perhaps a deep run once every 15 years, then start over, on to football season.
Use the coach for all you can, enjoy any success achieved, and then start the cycle all over again.
What is the problem?
Neither school can do anything more.
That is the HARSH REALITY.
I’m good with it.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:08 AM
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Not until the university makes it a commitment.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:16 AM
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There really is no reason either university should not consistently win 20 games. I do not understand the Crean deal thought he was a good one.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 11, 2022, 9:37 AM
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Crean looked like a can't-miss hire. Won two Big Ten titles at Indiana and took Marquette to a Final Four. Even he couldn't win in Athens. I don't know what that communicates to a potential big name hire, but it's probably not good.
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how much money do you think they have just sitting around
Mar 10, 2022, 8:51 AM
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over there. We act like they just hoard money from the basketball team. We renovated and built a stinking arena with update offices, practice courts, student lounge, lockerrooms, all new screens and Av upgrades, paid the coaches well... yet we make no commitment. What do you mean by that? I think all you mean is they're not firing the coach so they don't care. I'm not on the inside of overseeing the athletic budget but i assume we're still paying off the last commitment. This team turned it around this year and became a pretty doggone good team. I think our biggest issue was we didn't have a dominant starting 5. We had about 6 guys on the bench that can play and we lacked chemistry b/c we have to get everyone on the court. Its a good problem to have but a tough one to manage b/c you never know who was going to produce and who wasn't game to game.
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Orange Blooded [2127]
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Amen brother!
Mar 10, 2022, 9:07 AM
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You get it.
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Total BS. Loser.***
Mar 10, 2022, 8:18 AM
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:33 AM
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Using your argument then Duke and UNC, even Kentucky can't be good in football .But they do get to bowl games on a regular basis. And what about teams like Notre Dame, Michigan ,or Michigan State, all of whom can have winning programs in both sports. And what is your definition of "pockets of success"? And there is no reason why coaches have to compete. If that were the case Alabama should just scrap their basketball program all together. As to a coach leaving, that tells me in part that he has no plan for making the team tournament tough. Why else do you play any sport if not for post season? And why would you even bother to come to Clemson or Georgia if you felt you could not compete with football? Instead of moving on to greener pastures, why not formulate a plan to make his current situation greener pastures. And the last time I checked basketball season and football season don't really compete against each other ,no more than basketball and baseball. Sure the seasons over lap but they are not necessarily playing head to head home schedules. And how many years do you consider a cycle a cycle? So what is the problem? Maybe you are. HARSH REALITY is you can have success in both sports with the right coaching and talent.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 9:03 AM
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Huge difference between a bowl game and the ncaa tourney or NIT.
6-6 power 5 teams will ALWAYS make a bowl. Even 5-7 teams will make it.
Records like that def dont get in the NCAAT and most likely wont get an NIT bid either.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 9:47 AM
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Not really. While you are correct that even a 5-7 record can get you a bowl game, the problem are there are to many bowl games. There are 44 bowl games, I think, including the CFP's for a total of 88 teams. The NCAAM invites 68 teams,20 fewer teams that get to advance. And part of the criteria has always hovered around winning 20 games. Maybe football needs to rethink the 6-6 record scenario.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:39 AM
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The constant acceptance of failure = the reason for failure. Ditto for mediocrity. Serious investments in the two programs would greatly improve both. By investment, I don't just mean monetary and facilities. This begins with attitude and the definition of success from the very top (president, athletic director, etc.) down to assistants. Goals. Higher standards.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 8:49 AM
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Sounds amazingly similar to your football teams playoff experience.
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I don't buy that defeatist mentality***
Mar 10, 2022, 8:49 AM
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you guys just went 1-17 in conference
Mar 10, 2022, 9:01 AM
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and haven't made the tournament in 7 years.
Please do not lump our program in with the absolute dregs of the state of your program.
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Re: Georgia and Clemson CANNOT be consistently good in basketball
Mar 10, 2022, 9:05 AM
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Agree with you about 90%. TU anyway
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Thank you for the words of praise. I just
Mar 10, 2022, 9:46 AM
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look at things realistically.
Also, history is a great teacher.
When Georgia went to the final four that was great! Would it be nice to go back? Sure. But, doubtful.
Clemson has had some very solid teams and I have been in Littlejohn when the place was electric! At some point the Tigers WILL be very good again. Ditto for UGA. (Maybe)
When it happens, be thankful for it and just enjoy it for that moment in time!
All the UGA fans are now saying since football is now with Bama as the top program in the country that basketball “can also do it.” Are you kidding me??!! Uh, NO. UGA basketball will never be elite. Just reality.
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Re: Thank you for the words of praise. I just
Mar 10, 2022, 10:11 AM
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Enjoy your time “with Bama as the top program in the country “ for a few more months. If you play in 3 more national championship games in the next 4 years and win at least one of them then we’ll talk. So far you’re a 1 year dynasty like LSU.
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Orange Blooded [2328]
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Huh?
Mar 10, 2022, 3:42 PM
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I’m just walking off #18 at Jennings Mill after a chilly 77.
What are you talking about?
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You are correct, Florida was an anomaly....
Mar 11, 2022, 9:30 AM
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Hugh Durham did take ya'll to the F4, with Vern Fleming and Terry Fair-
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