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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 5:57 AM
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 7:10 AM
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Just like the old days of sliding money to players and recruits a violation of NCAA rules.
Now our in intelligent legislators and the spineless NCAA has now made it legal. Texas is the richest school in college football. Now they just became richer thanks to NIL! I hope the biggest crooks in the federal government will at least tax the hick out of NIL $$$$$$.
This will separate the haves and the have nots. In fact it may force some programs to shut down because they cannot afford to maintain and upgrade their facilities or offer the kind of money Texas booster’s are putting up. Looks like NC’s will be bought rather won.
The spineless NCAA should change their name to the NFL minor leagues or NFL-ML
The NIL and TP should be blown up along with the NCAA.
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A&M tripled it
Jan 6, 2022, 8:11 AM
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They’ve got some serious jack
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I really don’t get why we couldn’t have
Jan 6, 2022, 9:44 AM
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Just had two options.
1. A college football league with amateur athletes on scholarship.
2. A professional club league with how it is now, no pretending, no scholarships, no having to go to class.
Let’s the schools decide which they want. Let the kids decide which they want. No need to make a pro team like TAMU play against Vandy.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 7:14 AM
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According to Texas A&M Boosters, they have University of Texas beat!
They paid for the #1 recruiting class, and Texas is playing catch up.
More money chasing players than the old Southwest Conference days!
Clemson cannot compete in that ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? money game…….
Soon the whole SEC and Big 10 will be playing ‘moneyball’
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People who keep saying “Clemson can’t compete”…
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Jan 6, 2022, 7:30 AM
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Think about what these other schools are buying.
They are paying to have a collection of prima donnas who will still jump from school to school until they can get to the NFL.
Many of the same questionable character kids that Dabo has purposely avoided recruiting for the last 12 years anyway!!
Do you really think Clemson will no longer be able to bring in really good football players with high character, and develop them in the program?
I think we will.
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We will not be able to bring in athletes to compete with
Jan 6, 2022, 7:39 AM
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that unless we play the same game. Don't fool yourself. Do you thing the "good character kids" are going to turn down that? If there is a completely unlevel plaing field like it was in the old days before scholarship limits and academic requirements, then that will be the end of this sport for most fans, including this one. It sucks. I remember Clemson saying we would be on the cutting edge if it came to NIL and we'd do what we had to do. I don't see that happening. I see us getting left behind and silence. Glad we won or titles when they meant something more than having the biggest bank accounts.
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Re: We will not be able to bring in athletes to compete with
Jan 6, 2022, 7:57 AM
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Sadly this is true. You'll end up with a handful of teams competing for the high quality kid that doesn't want or need NIL. Your talent pool shrank dramatically.
As you said, if you believe the only kids that will choose a school because of NIL are scumbags we don't want, you're sadly mistaken. And Clemson won't be the only school that can't compete.
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Re: People who keep saying “Clemson can’t compete”…
Jan 6, 2022, 7:45 AM
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We can’t compete with the money game. Just a fact.
We can certainly compete on the field and in the classroom!
Clemson must recruit the right kids!
A college pro-team will not work for us. The big schools have too much alumni and booster money.
The NIL money, will cut out a lot of recruits who will go to the highest bidder.
They are just converting the dirty money to NIL money, and there is more of it……
I agree with your overall comment.
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They may be prima donnas but they are the best of the best
Jan 6, 2022, 7:51 AM
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look at the history of recruiting classes ranked an NC won..... we don't have the money to compete with the big boys......our school is great but our Alumni base is nothing like Texas/A&M/Mich/OSU etc...... if this keeps up, we will be left behind.
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Re: They may be prima donnas but they are the best of the best
Jan 6, 2022, 8:02 AM
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And it's just getting started. We'll be like the Ivy League.
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I realize I may be a Pollyanna about this subject…
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Jan 6, 2022, 8:09 AM
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Maybe we do get left behind. We’ll see how it plays out.
But I just have a real belief that Clemson (with Dabo) is equipped to rise above all this mess and be as successful as ever.
Meanwhile the others will spend their ways into oblivion and just end up with a heaping pile of garbage.
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Yes. Exactly. We’re already built for it.***
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Jan 6, 2022, 8:37 AM
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Re: People who keep saying “Clemson can’t compete”…
Jan 6, 2022, 8:35 AM
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Think about what these other schools are buying.
They are paying to have a collection of prima donnas who will still jump from school to school until they can get to the NFL.
Many of the same questionable character kids that Dabo has purposely avoided recruiting for the last 12 years anyway!!
Do you really think Clemson will no longer be able to bring in really good football players with high character, and develop them in the program?
I think we will.
As usual a terrible take as aTm structured the NIL deals to look like a multi year contract. The players will be punished financially if they leave early.
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Please explain how the players will be punished financially.***
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Jan 6, 2022, 8:38 AM
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Re: People who keep saying “Clemson can’t compete”…
Jan 6, 2022, 8:36 AM
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I do admire your sentiments... however... it is naive.
"Money talks and BS walks"
That has been true for a long long time.
Clemson does not hand out BS... but the money still holds the podium.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 8:05 AM
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With all the money UT is throwing out, where is the top recruit who lives in Austin, TX going to enroll next week? Where did the great freshman safety from Austin play this year?
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 9:01 AM
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I'm thinking more macro than micro.
Sure, you'll have samples and kids just like college baseball that forego the short term money and enroll in their dream college. But as I stated above, the talent pool shrinks. And we're not above it, we are doing NIL. It's not like NIL has been around. It just started this past year. You also have to couple it with the portal, a la Caleb mess.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 7:43 AM
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The return of Texas to the elite. How long until the real USC makes a resurgence
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ncaa football is becoming a bottomless pit of money
Jan 6, 2022, 7:50 AM
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just like public education.
somebody is getting dirty rotten filthy stiinking rich.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 8:13 AM
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It would be interesting to see how NIL develops except I have about tuned out on college sports because of this aspect.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 9:05 AM
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Five stars are all going where the money is. Almost all of the 4 stars will. So Clemson needs to either cough it up or figure out how to win with 3 stars. Winning the ACC should probably be the goal now. The natty days are probably over.
The only way I see to get around it is to beef up the recruiting budget so you can use actual Clemson scouts to find talent instead of relying on the national talent evaluation gurus who currently hand out the stars. The “experts” regularly miss guys who end up in FCS or MAC or somewhere. Whoever figures out how to find talent nobody else is looking at will be ok.
The current “star” system is going to become very corrupt and unreliable since the stars can now be bought and sold for a cut of a kid’s future NIL money. I give you that 5th star, and you give me $50k.
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and Clemson will have to come-up with something similar...
Jan 6, 2022, 8:54 AM
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in order to compete.
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A couple of questions/thoughts...
Jan 6, 2022, 9:20 AM
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1. When UT gets to the point that all UT football players are being paid a handsome salary - what happens to the official athletic department booster club? Do a lot of the "regular Joe" donors stop contributing to the UT athletic department scholarship fund? Do the other UT sports programs start to suffer?
2. What happens IF UT still fails to produce a championship football team after spending millions through this legalized bagman method of paying UT football players? How long are these mega donors/LLC's going to continue to throw money at something if it is not producing the outcome they seek?
I can tell you this much, I've been an IPTAY member for some time now and nothing will make me drop out of it quicker than if Clemson football players are being paid like what UT is doing. I love my alma mater but I'm not going to help pay for a student athletes education if they are already making $50,000 per year or more through these kinds of BS NIL schemes - let them pay for their own darn school. I gotta feeling I wouldn't be the only one to drop out of the athletic scholarship fund and can eventually see the official University booster clubs struggling.
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 9:50 AM
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Yeah they made this way too open. It was supposed to be if you could get money for your autograph or jersey sales... or if NCAA football wanted you on the cover... stuff about your name.
Not "No one knows who you are but they will in a few years because we will make them... and We will make this deal for you with this company if you come to our school"
Wtheck?
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Re: Texas Longhorns bosters giving 10 million
Jan 6, 2022, 1:51 PM
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This is pure anti-trust and the Justice Department should quit farking around worrying about Jan. 6, 2021 and stop this Commie/Fascist action. It undermines everything American and makes us Amerika...
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