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Jun 9, 2014, 8:20 AM

I liked tahj. I thought the program was better having him here. He clearly could, at times, play at a high level. I thought when he came back his senior year that he was coming back to help this program and I admire him for his sacrifice . But when I saw stoudt, I don't know that he was the better qb because he wasn't under the same stresses, but clearly he stoudt was a mature qb with solid decision making skills. To me, having ability is one thing but having ability plus confidence and field leadership is a quality nurtured over time and he seemed to have that.

As long as he doesn't rattle easily under duress, stoudt might turn out to be a better qb than tahj. My only knock on tahj was that sometimes he played great and sometimes the pressure seemed to rattle him. You never knew. To me, the sc state game last year was the precursor to the fsu debacle. He looked to be off a tad and it seemed to carry forward.

I see some calm in stoudt and I think his age and father has instilled a sense of serinity in him. No way Watson will beat out stoudt and stoudt might walk into Athens and give UGA a beat down .

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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:24 AM

I agree. i think we will be in good hands with Stoudt. Go Tigers!

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I don't mean to nitpick but I notice that you capitalized


Jun 9, 2014, 9:24 AM

"I" but not Tajh or Stoudt......

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And Watson & Athens & UGA. Hmmmmmm .....***


Jun 9, 2014, 12:06 PM



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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:30 AM

He has shown us no reason for doubt. Each time he has been called upon he has delivered in a workmanlike way. Also, we should have a much better running game threat this year. The pieces are in place for us to shine. I can't wait to see if we answer the bell, but I believe we will bust fine.

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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:32 AM

Dugatiger, I think you are right. The running game should help a lot. Great point.

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Last year, I noticed that when Cole Stoudt came into the


Jun 9, 2014, 9:26 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

game, the pace picked up and I'm sure that Chad Morris likes that.

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I notice every time you post, I have a hard time reading


Jun 9, 2014, 12:58 PM

your post, and not looking through that bikini/boob hole on your pic. ;) I'm sorry, you were saying?

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I KNOW!!! That's how I felt, decided to share with my Tiger


Jun 9, 2014, 1:51 PM

brothers

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Re: I KNOW!!! That's how I felt, decided to share with my Tiger


Jun 10, 2014, 8:21 AM

Those puppies seem to be trained properly to stay at attention. Nice job!

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Re: I notice every time you post, I have a hard time reading


Jun 10, 2014, 8:19 AM [ in reply to I notice every time you post, I have a hard time reading ]

Dittos on the picture. I am just a dirty old man, so I can't help myself, either. Point!

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morale booster, it is!***


Jun 10, 2014, 9:31 AM



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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:32 AM

No disrespect to Stoudt but there is a reason he has played very sparingly in his career. Watson will overtake Stoudt before seasons end. He fits what Morris wants this offense to look like.

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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:48 AM

The ONLY reason Stoudt hasn't started for 3 years is the laser arm that Boyd possessed. Boyd could hit targets with a laser accuracy (see the LSU bowl game). Stoudt ALWAYS made better and faster reads IMO, but the Boyd arm won Boyd the starting role.

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Re: Stoudt


Jun 9, 2014, 8:59 AM

I have seen nothing wrong with Stoudt's arm. At times when Boyd was having one of "his games", the coaches should have put him in and given Boyd a rest and a chance to clear his head. You don't complete the passes he did with all of our subs in the game if you can't throw the ball where it can be caught.

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Agree and he'll be throwing to a lot of those same WR/TEs...***


Jun 9, 2014, 9:07 AM



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I agree 100%! That is one thing that I don't care for with


Jun 9, 2014, 9:30 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

this staff. They seem to be loyal to a fault. Boyd should have played more when Parker was here and Stoudt should have played more when Boyd was here. It IS NOT a crime to put the second string guy in from time to time. It appears as though the coaches are afraid to do anything that will take away the starters confidence.

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Agree about Parker, especially since he was hurt.


Jun 9, 2014, 8:43 PM

Not sure I agree about Boyd.

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"Dabo crushed my soul." --- Classof09


And that reason is Tajh Boyd.


Jun 9, 2014, 8:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

All-American, All-ACC, ACC Player Of The Year, holds every passing record at Clemson.

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Yep. While there is no way to predict what Stoudt will do


Jun 9, 2014, 8:59 AM

as a starter, I think we can all agree he has shown every reason to think he will play at a very high level, nothing to think he wont. He's accurate, makes good decisions, will play his butt off. That much we know. I'll take it.

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Absolutely - and the fact that he did not beat out Tajh


Jun 9, 2014, 9:04 AM

Boyd and get more PT can't be taken as evidence that he can't be very good at this level.

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This actually brings up another subject I often wonder about


Jun 9, 2014, 9:28 AM

When Boyd had that breakout year a couple of years ago, and in many ways became, even then, as Dabo says, "The face of the program", did that make the job his barring some overwhelming reason to replace him?

For instance, I know coaches say, "The guy playing best right now plays, period", and in 95% of the cases that is true. Doesnt matter if you are a senior linebacker and was second on the team in tackles last year; if the new sophomore looks better in practice he plays.

But in Boyd's situation, I wonder if coaches take the view that the younger guy needs to be something like 20% better to made a switch. A lot of issues come with a switch like that, and it might not be worth the trouble. Yes, winning comes first, but there is more to "winning", expecially in the long term, than who played better at practice yesterday.

And then there is the truism that senior leadership is everything. Boyd was clearly the leader, and of course a senior. Can you sit that guy even if the younger guy is physically a little better? Probably not.

Just guessing about all this.

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I have said this many times---sometimes your QB struggles


Jun 9, 2014, 9:36 AM

and even if you don't bench him it is OK to let the next guy play a series or two while the starter and coach stand on the sideline and talk about the game. Put the starter back in and if just isn't his day, tell him that he is still your guy but today just isn't your day. Remember when we were down 35-0 at halftime in Virginia, changed QB's at halftime and won 38-35!

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Agree, but I think particularly with the QB, you don't bench


Jun 9, 2014, 9:42 AM

a proven guy, especially one who has had such tremendous success, after one or two less-than stellar games. Take him out for a series or two and let him settle down, yes; but bench him or give the job to somebody else? Nah. Tajh struggled at times last year, and I know it's a judgement call, but I don't know if he ever played badly enough, for a long enough stretch, to lose his job.

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I agree, don't get me wrong----the starter has earned that


Jun 9, 2014, 10:49 AM

job and it IS his but there are many ebbs and flows to a football game.

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Re: This actually brings up another subject I often wonder about


Jun 10, 2014, 8:38 AM [ in reply to This actually brings up another subject I often wonder about ]

Your points are well made, and the answer is that once a guy rises to the top like Boyd did, it is harder to unseat him. It is a fact. Not that a starter can't lose his spot, but it takes much more for the backup to take his position, unless it is discipline or chronic little screw ups that keep surfacing.

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That's history.... The 'SWAG' is gone.....***


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I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We


Jun 9, 2014, 9:32 AM [ in reply to Yep. While there is no way to predict what Stoudt will do ]

have quality depth at the QB position and that is what this conversation is all about. Enjoy this time!

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Re: I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We


Jun 9, 2014, 10:49 AM

are you nuts? we are in the worst qb position we have been in a long time. we are one injury from a true freshman coming off a broken shoulder being our starter. these are the only two scholarship qbs on the team. next year Watson HAS to be the starter. our backup will be another true freshman. you call this QUALITY depth? It will be at least 2 years before we have ANY depth at qb.

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Tell 'em leadcoot


Jun 9, 2014, 10:51 AM

blah blah blah

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a coot hiding behind a terrier---fitting isn't it***


Jun 9, 2014, 10:58 AM



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hahahahaha yes I'm nuts! When was the last time we had as


Jun 9, 2014, 10:53 AM [ in reply to Re: I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We ]

many 4 and 5 star QB's on the roster at the same time?.....crickets.....

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Re: hahahahaha yes I'm nuts! When was the last time we had as


Jun 9, 2014, 11:02 AM

we have one 4 star qb, you name the other ones. that's what I thought. we have brought in a grad student with no experience as an emergency plan. you have to be delusional to think we do not have a depth problem at qb. by the way name the 4 and (no 5) star qbs we have now on scholly. talking about crickets.

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Tell 'em leadcoot


Jun 9, 2014, 11:19 AM

yap yap yap

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"Broken shoulder"?


Jun 9, 2014, 8:45 PM [ in reply to Re: I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We ]

Typical Coot exaggeration.

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Don't think you're giving Schuessler enough credit...


Jun 9, 2014, 11:10 PM [ in reply to Re: I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We ]

He held his own in the Spring game and HAD a scholarship to Miss State.

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We're actually really thin at QB


Jun 9, 2014, 12:02 PM [ in reply to I don;t ever remember us being in such a great postion! We ]

I wouldn't say we're in a bad situation with a senior starter and a very talented Freshamn backup, but I think we can all agree that Stoudt going down and Watson being forced to play puts us in a bad situation. After Watson, we don't have anybody we originally offered a scholarship to after HS.

Had Kelly not been kicked off the team, I'd say we were in a great QB situation.

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I don't think he's shown much either way, actually


Jun 9, 2014, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Yep. While there is no way to predict what Stoudt will do ]

He's been solid in mop up duty and hasn't done anything too costly when he had to fill in for a hurt Boyd. But he hasn't been asked to make any big plays yet, or really been put in a very high pressure situation. I think, as a guy who's a senior and who's been in Morris's system for a few years, he'll be pretty good. But I don't really get where the expectations of him being a big play- maker are coming from.

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Unless Stoudt goes down with an injury, I don't think he'll


Jun 9, 2014, 8:52 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

get the chance. I expect Watson to see some playing time but I don't think he'll supplant Stoudt. I also think this year's O will be somewhat different than last year's from a play calling standpoint.... Unfortunately, all is just speculation and we'll both have to wait and see... O.J. How many days?


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Kinda wrong....if Stoudt starts loosing games,


Jun 9, 2014, 9:03 AM

Watson will be in ina skinny minute.

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Which game would that be?***


Jun 9, 2014, 9:05 AM



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Great point. But what if he


Jun 9, 2014, 9:06 AM [ in reply to Kinda wrong....if Stoudt starts loosing games, ]

starts tighting games ?

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Re: Kinda wrong....if Stoudt starts loosing games,


Jun 9, 2014, 9:06 AM [ in reply to Kinda wrong....if Stoudt starts loosing games, ]

I have no problem with that. You change other position players, why not the quarterback if he is off his game. Same thing with pitchers in baseball, some days you have it and other days you don't.

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If we lose to FSU and UGa, Watson will start...


Jun 9, 2014, 11:57 AM [ in reply to Kinda wrong....if Stoudt starts loosing games, ]

for the rest of the year. I think, at that point, you don't have a lot to lose by putting Watson in there to get experience. He's going to be the QB of the future, while Stoudt only has this year to play and is playing because his experience gives us the best shot for this season.

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Dabo is not going to bench a senior for a ture freshman***


Jun 9, 2014, 12:53 PM



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Re: If we lose to FSU and UGa, Watson will start...


Jun 10, 2014, 9:40 AM [ in reply to If we lose to FSU and UGa, Watson will start... ]

If Stoudt gives us the best chance to win regardless of our record at through the first 3 games he should play. The season is still young at that point, you never know FSU could slip up against L'ville and Miami or Winston could actually get arrested for something. Niether of which are completely out of the realm of possibility.

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: If we lose to FSU and UGa, Watson will start...


Jun 10, 2014, 1:26 PM

I'll be the Voice of Dispassion here: I'm worried about Stoudt, some. I have more than a doubt or two he'll be the starter come October.

MBRO did a really good cut-up of every pass Stoudt has thrown (and he's played a surprising number of snaps) and the film shows it's...okay. You can see the clear progression from year to year; Stoudt's definitely gotten better. I was definitely impressed with his decision-making and poise in the Spring Game.

That said, I'm concerned about Stoudt's lack of a rifle in terms of arm strength, and I'm concerned about his tendency to get his receivers blown up by force-feeding them short dumpoff passes in situations where a more mobile QB would recognize that it wasn't on - when everybody's covered, it probably means there's space for you, if you want it and have the ability to go get it. Stoudt is...a decent runner, but he is certainly not Tajh Boyd, and he is not Chad Kelly in that regard either. (Kelly, it must be said, made some truly bad decisions with the football, if you go back and look at his own, more limited film.)

Physically, and in terms of poise and accuracy, Stoudt looks, honestly, a lot like Charlie Whitehurst. They have similar mobility - Whitehurst, you might remember, was actually surprisingly good himself when he decided to run.

What Stoudt does not have is Charlie Whitehurst's NFL arm. His passes tend to float more than you'd like - especially on the deep routes - and he doesn't put the ball on the receiver as fast as you'd like to see, which can give the defender that extra half-second he needs to react to the ball. This is a concern because if you can't stretch a D vertically they increasingly start inching up and squeeze you...and the last thing you want is a defense that can play downhill because they know they can keep everything in front of them. (See Proctor, Will, 2006, if you want to remember how that looked, or Harper, Cullen, 2007, 2008.)

Stoudt is probably going to have to be a close to 70% passer to be successful, and he's going to have to show a better deep ball, and a willingness to run, scramble, and do things like dive for the first-down marker and end zone, and in general play like his life depends on it. Otherwise my fear is he'll be Just Some Guy - not a bad QB, but one who's just good enough to get you beat. Because Stoudt is not an elite QB in terms of physical ability, and Clemson, frankly, does not have the skill around him this season for him to just be a game-manager and win.

Stoudt's going to have to make plays. Because his arm dictates that his throwing is going to be high-percentage and safe, it means he's going to have to be much more of a kamikaze than it appears his natural inclination is in terms of running with the football. He's going to have to play every game like it's his last (or, with Deshaun Watson behind him, every game certainly could be), and yes, that means risking injury. Clemson's O requires a true dual-threat at QB to be truly successful; if Stoudt just plays the game-manager we're not going to beat UGA, and we're not going to beat FSU. The O just won't be successful enough.

Tough spot for Stoudt...but he has his chance now, and he's going to have to go for it. Or we'll start 1-2 and Watson will be under center by October.

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Re: If we lose to FSU and UGa, Watson will start...


Jun 10, 2014, 3:42 PM

I agree. Watson will get reps all summer and fall because he will have to be the man if stout goes down. the coaches also at SOME point in the season have to get Watson some experience because he HAS to start next year. I think stout is set up to fail. he is in a no win situation(as a senior) and has a ton of pressure on him. if he falters in the least he will be yanked! I just hope our o line can keep stout healthy. and next year we will be in the same position again as far as depth goes. not a good situation imo.

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agreed


Jun 9, 2014, 9:22 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

back in January it was a "WIDE OPEN QB BATTLE".........then watson (TRUE FR) broke his collar bone and Kelly (RS So coming off knee surgery) gets kicked off the team................it took all that for a Senior QB to be DEFAULTED to 1st string QB.

I too think watson will take over by season's end..........it would also be better for the program's future.

get the kinks out for watson this year..........(which is "on paper" a rebuilding year) and get him ready for a title run next year/year after

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Re: agreed


Jun 9, 2014, 10:23 AM

WE TOO DEEP!

CONNER SHAW WEARS COLE STOUDT PAJAMAS!

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Stoudt was the starter during the spring, you just didn't


Jun 9, 2014, 11:43 AM

know it aaaaannnnddddd Connor Shaw wears womens undergarments to bed.......

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Guys....


Jun 9, 2014, 11:14 AM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

Cole passed for a school-record 4,400 yards and 52 touchdowns with just 11 interceptions in his high school career (records previously held by former Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn). He also established school records for career completions, career wins as a starter quarterback, and passing touchdowns in a game (5).

He was rated as the No. 21 quarterback in the nation by Rivals.com, No. 23 by 247Sports.com, and the No. 28 quarterback in the nation by Scout.com.

He is also the son of a former NFL QB.

In short, Cole does not suck. Make no mistake about it; the young man has game and he can play.

Barring something unforseen, Cole will be the starter all season and Watson will see only limited playing time.

It would be a very unusual circumstance for a true freshman to come in and win the starting job over a senior QB that has been in the program for four years.

Heck, if Swag doesn't get himself dismissed, Watson would have redshirted.

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Re: Guys....


Jun 9, 2014, 11:21 AM

crickets from ragtop. I was not saying stout is not a good qb and who knows even an all American. the discussion was about depth. sometimes even as fan you have to use common sense and logic. WE HAVE NO DEPTH AT QB. and we will not have any for at least 2 years, period. not really hard to understand if you can count to 2 or 3. that is what constitutes depth. however, I can see how some on here have that problem.

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"WE HAVE NO DEPTH AT QB."..... Hogwash. Olson may be


Jun 9, 2014, 11:36 AM

a 1 year stop-gap for the program, but he's a former 4* that played behind an everybody's All American, graduated Stanford early, and clearly has the smarts to pick up the playbook... Schuessler is going into his third year here and I'm sure has a full grasp of it by now. We're not dealing with a Maryland situation of playing a LB @QB... If Stoudt were to go down, it wouldn't be ideal but there are guys to step up. By the way, that's 3 and I didn't even mention the projected 'future' of the program, Watson.

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you think ol lead head will ever get it? Did a freshman just


Jun 9, 2014, 11:47 AM

win the Heisman? Watson played ina system like ours in HS and is ready to go if needed, along with all the others-----yeah we too deep!!

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Everybody blinks when the starter goes down but its always


Jun 9, 2014, 11:51 AM

NEXT UP!

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Re: you think ol lead head will ever get it? Did a freshman just


Jun 9, 2014, 11:51 AM [ in reply to you think ol lead head will ever get it? Did a freshman just ]

IDIOT ^^^^

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Re: you think ol lead head will ever get it? Did a freshman just


Jun 9, 2014, 12:04 PM



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Winston was not a true freshman


Jun 9, 2014, 12:09 PM [ in reply to you think ol lead head will ever get it? Did a freshman just ]

Winston redshirted during the 2012 college football season behind senior quarterback EJ Manuel.

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what about Manzel?***


Jun 9, 2014, 12:15 PM



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Redshirted too...***


Jun 9, 2014, 12:18 PM



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Correct...Johnny Football redshirted in 2011....


Jun 9, 2014, 12:23 PM

behind Ryan Tannehill

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ok but still the point is: there's no freshman jv team any -


Jun 9, 2014, 1:53 PM

more. Players these days CAN contribute earlier in their career.

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Yes..players can contribute earlier in their career, but....


Jun 9, 2014, 2:10 PM

the point remains that it would be highly unusual for a true freshman to come-in and relace a senior with four years of experience in the system, and barring something unforseen, Clemson will not be the exception to that rule IMO.

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Re: Guys....


Jun 9, 2014, 8:49 PM [ in reply to Re: Guys.... ]

Please explain USuC's depth. Since you're an expert and all.

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what are you expecting


Jun 9, 2014, 9:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Guys.... ]

all-americans 5 deep on the depth chart. You already said Stoudt is good. That could be all we need right there. Barring injury, you only need 1 QB. If he does get hurt, then we have the #1 high school QB from last year, who potentially could be a star right away. It's very rare and unlucky to need to rely on your 3rd string QB, but anyway that would be Scheussler or the Stanford transfer, both of which are probably pretty good for 3rd string and even 4th string. Looks like plenty of depth to me.

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Re: what are you expecting


Jun 9, 2014, 10:03 PM

who will back up our rs freshman or soph. next year? another freshman? or a non scholarship player? do you still not see a depth problem?

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Re: what are you expecting


Jun 10, 2014, 3:58 PM

'maybe' depth at QB will be a problem next year, but you said, in all caps, "WE HAVE NO DEPTH AT QB", which I assumed to mean this year. This year hasn't even started yet, I'm not worried about 2015 yet. They'll figure something out if it's truly a problem.

I'm also not too worried about what grade a player is in if they've got the talent. The last two Heisman winners were redshirt freshman QB's. Sammy was an All-American as a true freshman. It generally helps to be older, but it's not a necessity.

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Re: what are you expecting


Jun 10, 2014, 4:52 PM

I hope Watson wins the Heisman next year but WHO is his backup. a true freshman or a non scholarship player. I hate to admit it but Kelly leaving put us behind the eight ball. I think the staff would have liked to play stout and/or Kelly and redshirt Watson. next year let swag or Watson start and the other as backup. just did not work out as planned. that to me is the depth, with experience, we will be missing.

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Re: what are you expecting


Jun 10, 2014, 8:06 PM

I don't disagree with any of that. About all I can say is don't worry about 2015 yet. Things will change. Unforeseen things will happen. Nobody knows what the depth chart will be by then. Maybe you'll just have to hope Watson doesn't get hurt. Maybe the incoming freshman is really good. Maybe a QB will transfer here. Maybe Watson has a career ending injury this year and we're really screwed. Who knows? Enjoy 2014 first.

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Re: what are you expecting


Jun 10, 2014, 9:06 PM

ok. thanks

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+1. Totally agree...***


Jun 9, 2014, 11:22 AM [ in reply to Guys.... ]



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I like all that, but...


Jun 9, 2014, 12:09 PM [ in reply to Guys.... ]

if Stoudt struggles in losses against UGa and FSU, I don't think it would be a strange thing at all for Watson to become the starter. Watson is the future at QB, while Stoudt is an upperclassman who's already had time to develop. Our schedule gets easier after the FSU game, so the coaches might feel that they don't have a lot to lose in getting Watson some starting experience.

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That's just not consistent with what Dabo and Morris


Jun 9, 2014, 12:12 PM

have done in the past.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Watson has to beef up - 2 injuries in last 3 live actions


Jun 9, 2014, 8:37 PM [ in reply to Re: Stoudt ]

his last hs game then one of 2 Spring actions. 188 at 6ft. 3" is not enough. I hope he is built up enough by fall, if not redshirt him, just like Winston, Tajh, and Johnny fb!

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If Stoudt beats Usuc, he could be remembered very fondly!***


Jun 9, 2014, 11:38 AM



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WHEN....***


Jun 9, 2014, 11:39 AM



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kinda like Chris Morocco at FSU the year after the punt-


Jun 9, 2014, 11:50 AM

rooskie! Morocco was in the same situation, sat behind a record setting QB for 3 years and came and played lights out for that one year. We have such a storied history!

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That's all fine and dandy...


Jun 9, 2014, 11:52 AM

but I just don't see how people can be so confident in Stoudt just because he's played OK in mop- up duty. As some other said, he did get in a couple of meaningful snaps when Boyd was hurt, but he wasn't asked to do much. Yes, he's also been very accurate when he's played, but I can remember a few passes being thrown into coverage that probably would've been picked off if the other team still cared at that point.

I'm as optimistic about our team next year as anybody, but there just isn't any kind of evidence that Stoudt will be the kind of star that Boyd was. I think he'll be a very serviceable QB, but he won't be asked to make as many plays as Boyd was. What worries me is that our offense depended so much on Boyd making plays over the last couple of years, and we don't really have any proven veteran skill- players around Stoudt who can pick up that slack.

I think we're still incredibly talented on offense and there are a bunch of guys who could become stars, but there's a lot of uncertainty on offense for us next year.

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you're right, at this point it's all speculation. We can


Jun 9, 2014, 12:02 PM

only go by what each of us have seen when the other WR's and RB's have played and that goes for CS as well. I beleive that we will be ok. Now, will we win 11 games again? I hope so but at this point, I'm skeptical but I do beleive in our players. CS will not be the runner that TB was but he WILL be a better passer and with our talent at WR, we will be very good. my opinion

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I don't know if he'll be a better passer


Jun 9, 2014, 12:10 PM

More accurate on the short and mid- range stuff, maybe. His height may also help him be a little better of a decision maker, too.

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I know it's not a "real" game day atmosphere/situation, but


Jun 9, 2014, 12:09 PM [ in reply to That's all fine and dandy... ]

Stoudt has to play against our defense in practice, so he's facing the best defensive line and one of the best front 7's in college football, so I trust the coaches that he's ready for the big time lights.

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Whatever you do, always give 100%.....unless it's donating blood


this is something that we all must remember, the coaches


Jun 9, 2014, 12:18 PM

KNOW these players, have been with them A LOT. They know what they are capable of.

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Re: this is something that we all must remember, the coaches


Jun 9, 2014, 12:27 PM

johnny football redshirted too. once again you are WRONG. if you are going to post at least try to keep up and READ before you make yourself look worse than you already do. you are just proving no one should take you or your post serious. other than maybe ibwg. buwah!! I don't think he gets it either. BUTHURT bigtime.


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Re: this is something that we all must remember, the coaches


Jun 9, 2014, 12:32 PM

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It sounds as if you are trying to describe


Jun 9, 2014, 12:46 PM [ in reply to Re: this is something that we all must remember, the coaches ]

yourself in your own post there. Fascinating complex we have here, if only I had majored in psychology...

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Tell 'em leadcoot


Jun 9, 2014, 1:35 PM [ in reply to Re: this is something that we all must remember, the coaches ]

sad life

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I think you are missing my point. Players are ready to play


Jun 9, 2014, 1:57 PM [ in reply to Re: this is something that we all must remember, the coaches ]

earlier than in the past. There used to be a freshman jv team and then you had to ride the bencha year or two before you played but these days freshman (or RS freshman) play, start and have success. P.S. I see that I've really got you going......hang in there buddy....lol

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Re: I think you are missing my point. Players are ready to play


Jun 9, 2014, 4:03 PM

you just don't know any better and are trying to play it off. stay clueless and post more often. you may even make it into the happy group some day! buyah!

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Re: I think you are missing my point. Players are ready to play


Jun 9, 2014, 4:05 PM

^^^Doesn't understand that "depth at QB" doesn't really matter in college football. If your starter goes down, your season is usually over period. Even if you have a great defense. Hello Florida.

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The sad thing is that when Driskel went down


Jun 9, 2014, 4:37 PM

Florida actually got a bump on the QB situation

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Whatever you do, always give 100%.....unless it's donating blood


You keep talking about this so called "happy" group


Jun 9, 2014, 4:36 PM [ in reply to Re: I think you are missing my point. Players are ready to play ]

Are you saying that you don't like happy people?? So you want everyone else on here to join you in being miserable?

I has the confuse

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That's the troll's dream***


Jun 9, 2014, 4:38 PM



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Clemson


Is there a phrase for being a bad troll?


Jun 9, 2014, 4:39 PM

Cause he tries but can't quite make it

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Re: You keep talking about this so called "happy" group


Jun 9, 2014, 8:24 PM [ in reply to You keep talking about this so called "happy" group ]

we know, but don't stay in that closet too long.

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Re: You keep talking about this so called "happy" group


Jun 9, 2014, 9:13 PM

You really are a pathetic whiny #### loving #####.

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Re: Stoudt


Jun 10, 2014, 4:45 PM

Amen brother. I last season questioned Dabo when Boyd was having bad games why Stoudt was not put in the game.Could have made a difference.

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number #8 ?


Jun 10, 2014, 4:51 PM

Naa...

#21

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It's Tajh not tahj***


Jun 11, 2014, 3:53 AM



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