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110%er [5121]
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COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:03 PM
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Daniel, Landrum and Union have already cancelled games due to positive COVID tests.
Get ready for another craptastic fall, I guess.
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Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:14 PM
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Fear being the biggest one that needs to end. This fear applies to all aspects of the politicized reactions.
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Head Coach [790]
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Re: Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:39 PM
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Agree. There are some super simple and easy steps to take to stop transmission of Covid. Getting your vaccinations. Wearing a mask. Socially distancing.
But people are so afraid of their "FrEEdUms" being "trampled", and intense caring for only themselves, they can't even do basic things to help the community and the children they portend to care about.
Fear sucks my man.
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Re: Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:54 PM
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Propaganda sucks worse. They prey upon peoples' fears for their own advancement.
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Re: Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:59 PM
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Right? Like telling people there are magnets in the vaccines. Or Covid is like the flu. Or your individual rights are lot more important than the everyone elses.
Love your neighbor as yourself is just socialist propaganda. It's horrible.
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You are so grossly misinformed.
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Aug 17, 2021, 1:03 PM
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You clearly have no idea why some people don’t want the shots, and your obsession with wanting everyone to get the shots is weird.
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Re: You are so grossly misinformed.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:47 PM
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Mate, I've heard all the reasons. But mostly it boils down to people not wanting to get vaccinated because they feel their rights are more important than others. That you care about yourself more so than others around you.
Funny how this rugged individualistic conservatism is tied up in religious text which calls for you to love each other. To honor each other. To protect your family and children. But instead you choose to only look after yourself.
Jesus wept...
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110%er [9708]
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Still wrong.
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Aug 17, 2021, 2:07 PM
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You don’t even understand science. Or do you simply deny science?
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Head Coach [790]
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Re: Still wrong.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:34 PM
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I mean, the science tells me that 80% of people in hospitals with covid are unvaccinated and 95% in the ICU are unvaccinated.
But i mean math is hard right?
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Re: You are so grossly misinformed.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:59 PM
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I wish there was a magical infinity TD button. This reply would most certainly deserve it. You seem like someone I would never want to meet ever in my entire life. Not only do your posts come across as smug confrontational vomit. But you try and use Jesus and his teachings as a way to belittle and berate those who don’t agree with you. I’m not usually one to come on here and cross people but this diarrhea you spew has struck a nerve with me.
Luckily for you, Jesus also forgives.
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Does an unborn fetus have individual rights?
Aug 17, 2021, 1:13 PM
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If "My body, my choice!" applies to abortions, why can't that same principle apply to vaccinations?
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Re: Does an unborn fetus have individual rights?
Aug 17, 2021, 1:43 PM
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My body my choice absolutely is viable in both cases. All for it
So since we are saying 2.5 month in-utero fetuses are people, does that mean a pregnant illegal immigrant who is on US soil has a US citizen inside her and the fetus's rights have to be protected under constitutional law?
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CU Medallion [61819]
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So, when did the Constitution apply to non-citizens of the
Aug 17, 2021, 1:46 PM
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United States? A unborn baby is not a citizen as it and the mother are one at that time.
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Re: So, when did the Constitution apply to non-citizens of the
Aug 17, 2021, 1:51 PM
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Oh so there are different classes of unborn fetuses as children?
If conception defines when a human is "born" then you're declaring an in-utero baby on american soil is an american child.
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CU Medallion [61819]
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Don't manipulate my words.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:01 PM
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Is the mother a non-US citizen?
Is the living baby within her dependent upon her to live?
If both are 'yes', the baby is not a 'citizen' until it is born.
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Re: Don't manipulate my words.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:07 PM
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lolololol
You haven't thought about this before have you? You didn't think about the unintended consequences of giving rights to fetuses and how it impacts illegal immigration.
I'll let you simmer on that for a while
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Re: Don't manipulate my words.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:10 PM
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God you are dumb. If the baby is not born in America it is not an American citizen. And the founding fathers absolutely positively would not have put that in the constitution had they foreseen the way it is being abused today. Birthright citizenry was put in the constitution because of slavery.
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My responses indicate I have. So ... you are incorrect.***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:36 PM
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I will let you go have a spot of tea, a biscuit, and let you think about it.
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Re: My responses indicate I have. So ... you are incorrect.***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:44 PM
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but....but...you're manipulating what i'm saying....you're doing it wrong....
Later alligator
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CU Medallion [61819]
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Got it ... LOL!***
Aug 17, 2021, 2:47 PM
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Re: So, when did the Constitution apply to non-citizens of the
Aug 17, 2021, 2:02 PM
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And just so you know....you just a fetus isn't a person deserving any rights or protections.
"the mother are one at that time." so the woman should have the right to decide what she wants to do with it.
Welcome to being pro-choice my friend!
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Re: So, when did the Constitution apply to non-citizens of the
Aug 17, 2021, 2:21 PM
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Yes. A fetus has rights. But it is not an American citizen until it is born within the American borders.
You really should stop posting on this forum because you are seriously not even remotely as smart as you think you are. And you #### sure don’t understand Covid the way you think you do. And certainly have no context as to how Covid is being handled today versus far more deadly pandemics of the past.
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Re: So, when did the Constitution apply to non-citizens of the
Aug 17, 2021, 2:30 PM
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Did i miss where the constitution defined life began at conception? I'll wait. Seriously. I'll wait. I want to see the actual text where this exists.....i've got allllllll day.
And good to see you Low_cntry. Glad you've entered the chat.
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CU Medallion [61819]
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So, I have the right to take out your heart?
Aug 17, 2021, 2:41 PM
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I mean it just an active, living part of you. It's pro-choice to do that, right? Oh, it's not your choice? That would be murder wouldn't it? Hmmmm....
So, my body, my choice to NOT receive the vaccine is pro-choice. Welcome to it. Taking a life is murder.
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Re: So, I have the right to take out your heart?
Aug 17, 2021, 2:51 PM
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I can't follow your mental gymnastics here
A woman doesn't need a fetus to live. In fact she's probably healthier without it in her. Just like the vaccine in your body in your opinion.
Listen, if you believe life begins at conception so be it. I get it and understand it. But with that world view, it also means other things which challenge your stance (which apparently is immigration for example).
I bet you say "All lives matter" as well right? But in fact it isn't "all lives" ... its the ones YOU think are important enough to care about.
But I mean if you do care about these peoples lives, then you should care about them all. Not just the ones you deem acceptable. So yes that fetus in an illegal immigrant's mother's uterus sitting in Texas should matter. You should care about it. You should care that it is well taken care of and given every chance it can - because it is a life sitting on american soil.
But you don't. And i feel sad for you that that's the case.
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CU Medallion [61819]
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I thought you were gone. But, you lied.
Aug 17, 2021, 3:07 PM
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> I can't follow your mental gymnastics here.
I can't help you there.
> A woman doesn't need a fetus to live. In fact she's probably healthier without it in her. Just like the vaccine in your body in your opinion.
True, but it is a living part of her with a heartbeat. Technically, it is a life. Your appendix does not. That is essentially to what you are comparing a baby/fetus.
> Listen, if you believe life begins at conception so be it. I get it and understand it. But with that world view, it also means other things which challenge your stance (which apparently is immigration for example).
I do. And, your worldview disagrees with mine. And, you have to feel you are right. I get it. So, I have challenged yours, also. Good thing.
> I bet you say "All lives matter" as well right? But in fact it isn't "all lives" ... its the ones YOU think are important enough to care about. But I mean if you do care about these peoples lives, then you should care about them all. Not just the ones you deem acceptable.
Well, your life matters. I don't have to like you, but your life matters. Which category from your options does that apply - All lives or just the ones about which I care? Or, do YOU feel your life doesn't matter? If so, you need to seek professional counseling.
> So yes that fetus in an illegal immigrant's mother's uterus sitting in Texas should matter. You should care about it. You should care that it is well taken care of and given every chance it can - because it is a life sitting on american soil.
Sorry, your reasoning is not there. A non-citizen sitting in Texas is not a citizen, neither is her baby. Just because you are sitting in a garage doesn't make you and/or your chair a car. Just because you think the baby is a citizen doesn't make it so.
> But you don't. And i feel sad for you that that's the case.
Likewise for you.
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I find it hard to spit on the people who sacrifice
Aug 17, 2021, 1:05 PM
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ITheir lives for precious freedom by not exercising freedom.
But that's just me. I'd say move to china if you want zero control of your life..but they are already full. Russia maybe? Last I saw, they were on a population decline. Even made a holiday just to stay home and make the babies.
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Re: Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:40 PM
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Don’t forget the importance of regular exercise and proper nutrition to keep a healthy immune system, it frustrates me to no end that those suggestions have become a political 3rd rail.
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Exactly!
Aug 17, 2021, 2:19 PM
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I love the way people on this board act like I don’t care about people that die and they get all weepy eyed over people dying from Covid while totally ignoring that nearly 2,000,000 people die every year in America from heart disease and cancer which is overwhelmingly controlled by our diet and lifestyle.
They are quick to mandate lockdowns and experimental vaccines and wearing a mask, but I don’t hear a peep out of them about getting sun and taking vitamin D and vitamin C and zinc and cutting out the carbohydrates and sugars and processed foods in our diet which has led to the obesity and diabetic epidemics in America since the 1980s.
Not only do these diet and policy issues create metabolic syndrome, which includes high blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, but we’re not being told to exercise and do other things to make us healthy. And these policy choices by the federal government have profound effects on health in America. As well as having massive impacts on the cost of healthcare.
And had the pandemic hit, had Covid hit, 40 years ago 50 years ago very few people would have died because Covid is not like other pandemics and other flu viruses, it doesn’t kill everyone indiscriminately. It overwhelmingly kills people that are obese and diabetic or over 65 with a weak immune system. Well under 10% of the people dying from Covid are dying strictly from Covid. And we also know the death count is grossly over counted because dying with Covid is counted as dying from Covid even if you really died from a car accident or cancer or a heart attack, which has nothing to do with Covid.
The Spanish flu in 1918 killed somewhere between 3% and 5% of the population. And we were a very rural and scattered population back then. Today we are a far bigger country from a population standpoint and the majority of people are packed in the big cities. Yet the death rate for Covid is .0019%. And even being that low it specifically targets certain groups.
This has been nothing but fear mongering because of Trump derangement syndrome and a bunch of elites in the government for money, power, and control!
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Re: Something has got to end.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:08 PM
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You don’t really need to do any of that. And we absolutely positively should not be testing people that do not have symptoms because this test is not designed to test for Covid and there are tons and tons of false positives. They should stop the cycling if they are going to test everyone at 25 maybe 27 not the current 40 cycles. Never in history have we had widespread mandatory testing of people that are not sick and that are not showing symptoms. And using an incredibly flawed test.
This has been politicized by the left and it’s fear mongering at its best.
The death rate in America from Covid is .0019%. There have been a little under 700,000 deaths out of a population of roughly 328.5 million. And we know for a fact that 700k is overinflated.
By the way, social distancing and masks have limited research behind them and they only work in certain situations and for limited amounts of time.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:31 PM
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Yep, because our guvnor and legislature disregarded COVID and bozos all over the state refuse to be vaccinated and wear masks.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:36 PM
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And a 16 year old died down in Lancaster ( from what I read).Besides there are now 2 new variants for which there is no vaccine, and they are also talking about a third booster shot.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:53 PM
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SCARY!!! Grab your mask!
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:48 PM
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If masks worked in Japan, I might would agree with you. But unfortunately, masks don't work there either. And nobody can say it's because they're doing it wrong.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:18 PM
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Do you math.
Japan has a population of 123 million with a lot of urban limit space environments and they have not had their daily new cases above 20,000.
Meanwhile the us has a population of 330 million and nearly 250,000 new cases
Thus we have 71 cases per 100,000 and they have 15.6 cases per million
Literally 1/5 the transmission if all else is equal
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:37 PM
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due to positive COVID tests
It is one thing to limit due to the risk of an unknown case, but when there are several KNOWN cases, yeah, what do people expect. Proceeding is just an invitation to liability.
Get vaccinated folks and end this mess
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:02 PM
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Yeah, get vaccinated, then get the booster, then get the next vaccine once this one wears off, then another booster...
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…and STILL get the virus.***
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And still end up in the ER***
Aug 17, 2021, 1:13 PM
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:14 PM
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If that is what it takes
For as long as there is enough of a UNvaccinated population that is going to be a willing host to let the virus to mutate, then yeah, I am going to keep getting my shot. I can't fix stupid but I don't have to join them.
I am just ticked that because adults can't take personal responsibility that my young kids have to be put at risk up until they can get their shots.
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The vaccines 100% stop mutations? Cool
Aug 17, 2021, 1:18 PM
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Didn't read that finding.
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Re: The vaccines 100% stop mutations? Cool
Aug 17, 2021, 1:28 PM
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Gee, (lets have a have a beer)
You don't need 100% immunity for vaccines to work. In fact a vaccine at 50% efficacy is good if enough people have a shot/resistance. It is all about creating "dead ends" for a virus not to find new hosts. Ending vectors.
You need to knock the population carrying capacity (ie host) down. If 50% of the population is a potential host, then it allows nature to experiment with mutations. The more people with a vaccine, the few places were the virus can maintain its population. Delta primarily spreads through the unvaccinated population. Even if current vaccines are 50-60% that is literally a deadend on every other transmission vector.
Lets use a football analogy. You don't need to have tunrover on every defensive down. You don't even need to force negative yardage on every down nor end every possession on the first 3 downs. However, you best be sure you don't hand the opposing team an opportunity at a new down. An unvacciated case is basically a personal foul with a new set of downs. A vaccinated person is intention QB grounding with a loss of a down. Which would you rather have? It is all about playing the numbers and the more freebee first down you give a team, then the more likely they are going to have a chance for points.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:27 PM
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Wow...I am seriously at a loss to understand this type of thinking. It's steeped in fear and inaccuracy and a willingness to trust a government that never has your best interest in mind.
“The liberties of our country, the freedoms of our civil Constitution are worth defending at all hazards; it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors. They purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood. It will bring a mark of everlasting infamy on the present generation – enlightened as it is – if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of designing men.”
? Samuel Adams
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 2:12 PM
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I am a libertarian and I am 110% onboard with my health professionals.
By the way, read up on your 10th amendment and the police power.
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Re: End what mess? If everyone is vaccinated will
Aug 17, 2021, 1:16 PM
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Like Polio, Smallpox, Measels, etc... likely.
It is like trying to lock up a bank and everyone keeps leaving the windows open.
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Yeah.. that's not how covid virus work
Aug 17, 2021, 1:39 PM
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In addition
The polio vaccines were created in the 20s but weren't mandatory until the 80s?
Measle in the 50s.. mandatory in the 70s?
Smallpox 1800s , mandatory in the 60s?
Dtap in the 40s, mandatory in the 90s
Meningitis vaccine early 2000s... stil not required for public school. It is required at clemson. I expect public school systems will follow.
All of those vaccines had decades of data to draw from. Covid vaxe do not.
All of those are fda approved vaccines.. the covid vaxs are not.
None of those are mRNA vaccines... the covid vaxs are.
I'm all for using history as a learning tool..but like any other tool, it has to be used properly and without prejudice.
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Re: Yeah.. that's not how covid virus work
Aug 17, 2021, 2:04 PM
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That may be one of the better explanations for opposition to the vaccine according to medical history and vaccines that I have seen. I am not getting the shot regardless, even if there are years of data that say it might be marginally more efficient at combating the virus than my own immune system. However, I digress. That was a really good point concerning the data surrounding other vaccines, and the gap between their conception and vaccination mandates. It shocks me that people are so willing to get an experimental vaccine and do not realize that due to the emergency authorization that the companies who developed it are not held liable if any side effects (short term/long term) arise from them.
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Re: Yeah.. that's not how covid virus work
Aug 17, 2021, 2:30 PM
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Wait, do you think that those getting the polio vaccine back in the day waited "decades" for data?
No, you comment was that the vacvccine (or any vaccine) would not cause covid to disappear and we know that otherwise based on other vaccines to cause other diseases to functionally disappear. A lot
The covid vaccine is FDA approved for emergency use.... because this is an emergency.
The mRNA method is FDA approved and was approved before Covid existed. The reason why we are using it are two-fold. It just did not have a commercial reason for widespread use pre-covid.
1. It was much more effective. Previous mRNA approaches were no more effective for other vaccines at existing illnesses. For whatever reason, the mRNA was particularly efficitve for covid.
2. The mRNA was much quicker to develop and produce. Unlike other existing vaccines where the speed was not as critical, it made less sense considering the cost involved.
So you are telling me we should not use a tool because it is "new" even if it is quicker, better, and available sooner?
I am all for "history" but yeah the mRNA is not as "new" as you might think (was in development well into the 80s if not earlier with the first successful application in 1989). So yeah, it might not be Georgia Championship old, but there are DECADES worth of data.
At this point, it might actually be one of the widest, most in-depth studied vaccines in the world right now.
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Hartsville as well***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Re: Hartsville as well***
Aug 17, 2021, 12:43 PM
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Whoops, quicker on the keyboard you were.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 12:42 PM
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Hartsville - Chesterfield cancelled.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:03 PM
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Colleton county has already cancelled their first two games.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:04 PM
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Can you imagine all these 80000 stadiums in the South, filled with people yelling at the top of their lungs unmasked, high fifing and hugging and kissing each other, rubbing their hot sweaty bodies against each other, unvaccinated and not vetted or checked. Thank you Governors for not governing. It you don't know how to lead, step aside and let the local schools and counties and municipalities care for their neighbors. You already have assisted many to their graves and long Covid 19 disability.
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Is that high Barney Fifing?***
Aug 17, 2021, 1:19 PM
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 1:31 PM
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Yeah, lets do make sure we do what we know is best for everyone, if they want it or not!! After all, it's the best and brightest that hold political office...we all know that!!
uhhhh...
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
? C. S. Lewis
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this is what happens when a good majority
Aug 17, 2021, 1:33 PM
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plus those in charge do no take a highly contagious virus serious...im all for personal freedom and so on as conservative as they come..but when you have a virus that spreads so easy and can actually kill someone if they happen to get it..not wearing a mask no longer becomes personal..your decision during covid can effect others
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Re: this is what happens when a good majority
Aug 17, 2021, 1:51 PM
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This is what happens when we count every case, obsess over every detail, have constantly changing information from "leaders" and live in fear that it is coming for us. Wearing a mask doesn't do anything except make you feel better and it is completely ineffective for kids who touch them all day, take them off, use them as toys and breathe bacteria into them day after day. Unless they are used in a sterile environment you are just kidding yourself to think you are doing anything other than virtue signaling.
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Re: this is what happens when a good majority
Aug 17, 2021, 2:06 PM
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Feel torn reading your comment lol. In the end I have to agree. A day spent fishing is a day well spent.
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Re: this is what happens when a good majority
Aug 17, 2021, 1:57 PM
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Your personal decision to eat McDonalds, smoke, not exercise, drink too much, etc...can all have an effect on "others" as well. Why don't we regulate those things too? Those people cause higher rates of insurance, drain the healthcare system and take up hospital beds and all the diseases caused by those things are preventable. At least be consistent in your desire to regulate people's lives and health care choices.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 17, 2021, 5:00 PM
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At this point it's social darwinism at work
Aug 18, 2021, 8:49 AM
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those that are too stupid and selfish to not get vaccinated (not talking about those with major issues that would prevent them from getting vaxed, talking about the muh freedoms crowd here) will eventually get weeded out by the virus that's "no worse than the flu"
and our collective IQ in this country will get higher
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Which, if true, makes it all the more difficult to
Aug 18, 2021, 8:51 AM
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understand why those who are so clearly superior are pushing so hard to make them comply.
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Probably because we are tired of seeing our family
Aug 18, 2021, 8:53 AM
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and friends waving their american flags for freedom while actively trying to catch their breath and infecting multiple other people.
Maybe because we are tired of selfish people selfishly infecting 20 other people
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soooo, you're against Darwinism?
Aug 18, 2021, 2:02 PM
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The tones of your two posts are completely inconsistent.
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Re: COVID cancellations for HS football already.
Aug 18, 2021, 2:08 PM
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People would rather not get vaccinated. They don't care about sport. A mask is also not worth it to them at times. Its all way too stressful to wear a mask and get a shot for them.
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