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All-In [31887]
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Oh Oh...and for all those bashing the Jan 6 committee...
Jun 9, 2022, 3:51 PM
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as being a partisan witch-hunt....please remember the House pass a call for a 9/11-style independent commission with 35 GOP votes, only to have it filibustered in the Senate by GOP senators under Trump's direction.
Please remember that and then kindly s t eff up complaining about this committee.
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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Still doesn't mean it isn't a banana republic style bread
Jun 9, 2022, 4:31 PM
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and circuses clown show that even P.T. Barnum might think was a little too ridiculous.
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Re: Still doesn't mean it isn't a banana republic style bread
Jun 9, 2022, 4:33 PM
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Got to get those democrat voters refocused on the talking points ahead of the election.
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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I guess, but this has been overdramatized worse than
Jun 9, 2022, 4:36 PM
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WWE wrestling, I genuinely have no idea how people can take this "investigation" seriously.
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Re: I guess, but this has been overdramatized worse than
Jun 9, 2022, 5:17 PM
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I thought you supported "law and order".
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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Only if it’s applied equally
Jun 9, 2022, 5:19 PM
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But it’s not, so here we are.
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Re: Only if it’s applied equally
Jun 9, 2022, 5:20 PM
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Meme this... Momo. Your chit 's getting runny.***
Jun 10, 2022, 12:24 AM
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Re: Meme this... Momo. Your chit 's getting runny.***
Jun 10, 2022, 12:13 PM
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Having a prime time broadcast, WWE "Summer Slam" style
Jun 9, 2022, 5:45 PM
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destroys almost any credibility they may have had. If they had left it alone and let it play out naturally, on FOX/CNN/MSNBC during normal daytime hours, it would have been bad enough, but at least it would have been normal partisan stuff. Now, there is only one point to all of this: Trump, and by association, Pubs bad, and Dems good, and we are going to make #### sure everybody gets it, and the mainstream media is, in an almost unprecedented way, fully participating in getting out that message. Whether or not this uncovers or reveals any shocking truths about Trump and the pubs, no serious, honest person can deny that all Dems are hoping this absolutely destroys Trump and all of his supporters, and are participating with that expected outcome. Given that, and the fact that Dems are almost exclusively driving this, it's clear that all that are actively participating are biased in that direction, including the prime time (mainstream) media.
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Well, I have some great news for you then.
Jun 9, 2022, 7:37 PM
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FOX News, which has a larger viewership than the rest of the networks combined, as you're well aware...isn't providing coverage of the hearings. Probably won't even mention it. So the MAGA crowd can remain in their sheltered little ecosphere and not have to worry about hearing things they might not like.
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Re: Well, I have some great news for you then.
Jun 9, 2022, 7:38 PM
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My life never revolved around Trump, and if he directed
Jun 9, 2022, 9:41 PM
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or conspired with people to break into the capitol resulting in harm to others and a disruption of the election, then I hope he gets what he deserves. Still, even if this committee provides hard undeniable evidence of all of that, it won't hurt my feelings one bit and it won't change the fact that this has been a totally partisan effort from the start driven entirely by Trump's personal and political enemies. Now they've managed to make it a prime time "TV Special". Even though it's a former president and a potential future president, it's not the "problem" everyday Americans are worried about right now; it's not even near the top of the list. But, with the help of a summertime mini-series TV Special, it could move up the list a little, for now, and give Dems something to hang their hats on in the face of the real disasters Americans are facing since they took over.
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It might end up being that way....but to call it that now...
Jun 9, 2022, 4:48 PM
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before the public hearings start and we see what case is made is just as circus clownish, isn't it?
In other words, pronouncing it a sham before it happens is the same thing in reverse. (that's worded clear as mud, but you follow my point)
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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Not really based on prior "investigations"
Jun 9, 2022, 4:51 PM
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If you were born yesterday you might not know what to expect, I dunno.
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That's an awfully convenient outlook...
Jun 9, 2022, 4:54 PM
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might not be 100%, but sounds a lot like:
"nothing matters that I don't agree with...it's all theater"
If you hold that opinion, were you in favor of the 9/11-style independent commission that was proposed?
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It clearly is all theater
Jun 9, 2022, 5:12 PM
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An independent commission would have been better, but I would still find it ridiculous given the context of the time period and the lack of any investigation into the widespread organized rioting that occurred during BLM/Antifa riots. Last post as to not go too far off topic, but we've got a Vice President who promoted bail funds for violent rioters, and a BLM organization who is still bailing out violent criminals while their leaders are buying million dollar properties. Given the billions in damage and widespread destruction of communities across the country who are still suffering from it, I'd think that would be a bit more important than some people parading around the capital for awhile. But obviously those are just regular people who were affected by all of that, not super important Washington politicians.
Basically, I do not think you can look at January 6th as an individual event, to do so ignores the political and social environment that was the catalyst for it. An environment that was promoted and created by many who are crying the loudest about Jan 6th.
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We are in complete disagreement on this point then....
Jun 9, 2022, 6:55 PM
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A hate everything about the riots and that whole movement. But it is just simply not the same as the President of the got dang United States pushing the false narrative that he really won the election and gangs of his supporters storming the Capital in an attempt to stop the lawful actions of Congress. That cuts at the very foundation of our government and was a big friggin deal.
Members of Congress has to hide in offices, police were killed, a person was shot breaking through a barricade, mobs called for VP Pence to be hung.
Eff all of that and any efforts to minimize the significance of what happened that day. All while President Trump watched it unfold (reportedly and I'm most interested to find out exactly what he did that day).
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We are, I think you are minimizing the riots while
Jun 9, 2022, 8:19 PM
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Over dramatizing January 6th. Both events cut at the foundation of our government and I guarantee you the riots and defund the police movement will have a much more profound impact on your way of like than Jan 6th did. Just look at the way we give criminals a slap on the wrist and continually release them now, direct result of BLM’s movement.
I’m not really moved by members of congress, who have armed security, having to hide after a year of innocent people being beaten and having their businesses destroyed while law enforcement stood by and watched. People were burning cars and issuing all sorts of threats after Trump was elected in 2016, so I’m equally unmoved by people supposedly threatening to hang Pence.
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Wait...what?
Jun 9, 2022, 7:15 PM
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The political and social environment that led to Jan. 6? You mean the President and his administration pushing a completely fabricated narrative that he actually didn't lose the election, for 2 full months? The President and his administration calling for a rally in the Capitol on January 6th? The President telling that lathered up crowd to march TO the Capitol?
Oh, but he said to do it peacefully, so he shouldn't bear any responsibility. "Fight for your country, fight like hell!" "Oh, also, do it peacefully." That single word/phrase absolves him of 2 months worth of building that political and social environment?
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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You get more of what you tolerate, and what did we tolerate
Jun 9, 2022, 8:22 PM
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For the entirety of 2020? That’s right, riots and violence. Of course, one side skates while the other gets the full weight of the govt thrown at them, which is why it’s impossible to take this “investigation” seriously.
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Riots in the name of Black Lives Matter were just as wrong as the Capitol riot.
Jun 9, 2022, 9:46 PM
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The difference is that the sitting president didn’t tell black people lies and to protest and riot, leading to violence.
If he did, there would be hearings about that too.
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Oculus Spirit [79427]
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No, but a whole lot of prominent and powerful Democrat
Jun 9, 2022, 10:14 PM
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Politicians did, including our current Vice President. Then they helped get em out of jail so they could do it again
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I’d love to read more about that if you have any links to share.
Jun 9, 2022, 11:59 PM
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Thanks.
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We’re you alive or aware during that time period?
Jun 10, 2022, 1:42 AM
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I’m not your google, if you can’t remember 2 years ago that’s on you.
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Did you support the independent commission proposal?***
Jun 9, 2022, 9:47 PM
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Re: Did you support the independent commission proposal?***
Jun 9, 2022, 9:53 PM
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You think your insulting me...lol. That's a compliment....
Jun 9, 2022, 9:55 PM
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No one cares? Ok
You sure seem to commenting a lot for someone that doesn't care, huh?
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Re: You think your insulting me...lol. That's a compliment....
Jun 9, 2022, 9:56 PM
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I clearly DO care about it....you can't seem to even...
Jun 9, 2022, 9:59 PM
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follow your own line of thought lol
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Re: I clearly DO care about it....you can't seem to even...
Jun 9, 2022, 10:02 PM
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Re: I clearly DO care about it....you can't seem to even...
Jun 10, 2022, 4:45 AM
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In the immortal words of Liz Cheney .... "Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the INDEFENSIBLE: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your DISHONOR will remain"
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Re: Did you support the independent commission proposal?***
Jun 9, 2022, 10:45 PM
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How is it independent? Who would be on the commission?
My comment is coming from watching previous House hearings and realizing that most of what I'm watching is grandstanding and soundbytes. Why would this be any different? I'm pretty much done with watching the House for any debate or hearing.
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I know you have a hard on for Trump
Jun 9, 2022, 5:08 PM
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But that committee is a #### show
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Right, because Jim Jordan isn't on it.
Jun 9, 2022, 5:09 PM
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Lulz.
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Because why? I follow this pretty closely and don't...
Jun 9, 2022, 6:46 PM
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Know enough to form an opinion. Cant you at least watch the hearings and testimony first and then state what you would state regardless of whatever happens?
The irony of Trump supporters pronouncing the committee a sham ahead of the public hearings is astounding.
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Meant to add....I'm sure you fully supported...
Jun 9, 2022, 6:48 PM
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An independent commission too, right?
Please don't claim to be interested in the truth by slamming the commission as slanted.
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But some people here already know the truth.
Jun 9, 2022, 9:44 PM
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THEIR truth.
Which states that Trump was vilified, the election was stolen, and that the insurrection was carried out by true patriots and not criminals.
They don’t need to watch a lame liberal “hearing” because it’s not the truth.
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They are all crooks and criminals and this is just another
Jun 9, 2022, 6:08 PM
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kangaroo court
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They're not a court and....
Jun 9, 2022, 6:39 PM
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Your opinion is worthless, to me at least
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Eat chit... Dems decided who could be on 'their' committee.
Jun 9, 2022, 9:40 PM
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Partisan BS at best.
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Go read some more 911 inside job books...
Jun 9, 2022, 9:46 PM
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Nut job
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You're a F'in fool. The evidence is readily available. If
Jun 9, 2022, 9:52 PM
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you think that's a put-down, I'll live with it till the day I pass or the day the truth is revealed.
Do some research, stupe. It will become readily apparent if you do.
Or wimper back into your shell since those government contracts are so, so important for your profits.
History, even though they've tried to suppress and ban it, will prove the truth.
DEEZ NUTS!!!
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Lol...ok***
Jun 9, 2022, 9:56 PM
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I'll pass...you and I have been round and round....
Jun 9, 2022, 10:03 PM
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On that in the past.
I think you're a nut and you think I'm a fool.
So.....
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Pass = CAN'T. Pass = PUSS... There isn't any "round" to it.
Jun 9, 2022, 10:07 PM
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I'm a "nut" for believing basic physics...
I don't think you're a fool. I just think you HAVE BEEN fooled. That's the difference.
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I'm a puss for not wanting to debate 9-11 with...
Jun 9, 2022, 10:12 PM
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You for the n-teenth time in here?
Ok
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What debate? It was always derogatory insinuations. You've
Jun 9, 2022, 10:18 PM
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NEVER addressed actual events. Give it a try.
I would think you have some engineering background. Give that video I posted your best refutation.
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We argued detailed years ago. I'm guessing tnet search...
Jun 9, 2022, 10:29 PM
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Won't help, but we did.
I cited the Popular Mechanics analysis and so on.
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Is that suppose to be a F'n joke? Popular Mechanics...?
Jun 9, 2022, 11:17 PM
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Are you that intellectually challenged? I don't know that any response could be more pathetic.
Popular Mechanics explaining the greatest act of terrorism in the history of the country... Right.
And I actually thought you were an intelligent guy... Sorry for my mistake.
Watch the video. Learn something. Quit being a subservient lemming.
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Not sure why I bother, but...
Jun 9, 2022, 11:50 PM
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The price in Popular Mechanics goes through popular but job theories and brings in experts in those areas of studies to debunk the bs...and it is bs. I've done a lot of research into the theories folks like you latch on to. I'm convinced if you believe 911 was an inside job that you are a nut job. It's ok if you believe otherwise...go right ahead.
Cya
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What are "popular but job theories"? Try debunking the video
Jun 10, 2022, 12:01 AM
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You haven't even TOUCHED on the research I've done.
Again, as an engineer, debunk the explanation of the video... with the physics included. You won't because you can't.
NIST decided to ONLY address the initiation of the collapses (and that only after changing "theories" and parameters).
They NEVER explained the rest of the collapses EVER. It was a scientific joke. Total BS.
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Is "Cya" the traditional "cover your axx"...? If so, why?
Jun 10, 2022, 7:40 AM
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If 9/11 happened because of 19 Arabs w/boxcutters, what do I have to be afraid about?
More likely, it's you expressing what you're doing... Can't get on some list... Might lose those government contracts.
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LOL
Jun 11, 2022, 5:30 PM
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Are you that intellectually challenged? I don't know that any response could be more pathetic.
Popular Mechanics explaining the greatest act of terrorism in the history of the country... Right.
"Hey, I gave you my fringe YouTube video with damning evidence that supports what I believe, but any source YOU provide is laughable and should dismissed!"
If you don't see how ridiculous you look with that approach, then it's not a shock you believe in conspiracies.
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Lol clearly...and there you have it.***
Jun 9, 2022, 11:57 PM
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Yep... and that's the best you can do. What a pathetic POS.***
Jun 10, 2022, 12:03 AM
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When the only person on the entire board...
Jun 11, 2022, 5:31 PM
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Who has your back on this argument is CharlestonTom, it may be time to reexamine your stance.
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Which one? Different demos f/WTC I and II and WTC7...
Jun 10, 2022, 12:08 AM
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Iraq was a major threat to the dominance of certain groups in the Middle East...and they had oil.
This wasn't just an "inside job"...
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the Jan 6th hearings shows that
Jun 10, 2022, 3:24 AM
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Trump should be impeached. If he gets elected again, impeachment hearing should start right away.
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Re: Oh Oh...and for all those bashing the Jan 6 committee...
Jun 10, 2022, 4:11 AM
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The only reason January 6 committee appears to be partisan is due to the fact 99% of Republican politicians and right wing media will not participate in or broadcast a very necessary investigation of an attack on American politicians and American law enforcement officers. The GOP simply doesn’t have the guts to publicly admit that trump is a con artist.
As the Jan 6 events were happening quite a few GOP folks and Fox News parrots were admonishing trump. Then once it was over, they got in line and have been sucking up to him since.
About 38% of Americans have no spine.
Lock him up!
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Not gonna lie
Jun 10, 2022, 8:05 AM
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I had to google Jan 6 committee to know what you were talking about.
You guys need to focus energy on things that matter.
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All-In [31887]
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Yeah, well, more people need to understand...
Jun 10, 2022, 9:17 AM
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that this matters, a lot.
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How's that?***
Jun 10, 2022, 9:18 AM
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All-In [31887]
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There seems to be pretty strong evidence...
Jun 10, 2022, 9:27 AM
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that the President of the United States was doing and/or considering to do things well outside of the law/Constitution to prevent the peaceful transition of power.
That, in and of itself, is a big eff'ing deal. The fact that this same person has a good chance of running for POTUS again makes it even more important.
I'm reserving judgement until all of the facts come out, but it really looks pretty bad. And it's really concerning to me that so many people seemingly dismiss what happened on Jan 6 and the period leading up to that as "no big deal".
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I admire the passion
Jun 10, 2022, 9:37 AM
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and respect the position.
My only thoughts on this, is that if you want to go after presidents and politicians for breaking the law, go after all of them. If you're picking and choosing who you hold accountable, then you don't have much ground to stand on unless you're either looking to sow division or achieve a partisan victory.
American households are getting skull ###### right now. This puppet show in Washington will do nothing to change that.
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Yeah, I see a huge difference....
Jun 10, 2022, 9:44 AM
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what would be a comparable example that presents such a fundamental challenge to our republic?
If you're talking about inflation in the last sentence...I'm not too sure what the admin can be doing to change it substantially. It's a world-wide supply-side issue for the most part.
Obviously, the massive government doling out of cash to consumers threw gas on the fire...especially the last round. But I'm not sure you can hang that all on the present admin when the last admin was just as gung-ho on doling out the cash in the name of relief.
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This is where we part ways bro
Jun 10, 2022, 10:38 AM
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I don't have a dog in this fight.
My opinion is it's all a bunch of fabricated ######## to sow division. You won't get that from me.
We as a populace have a rough couple years in front of us. Bitching at each other over what orchestrated ######## we see on the talking box or your social media feeds ain't going to help us one bit.
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You think the storming of the Capital falls into that...
Jun 10, 2022, 10:42 AM
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category?
99% of the stuff I would agree with you on...but not that.
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Re: I admire the passion
Jun 11, 2022, 3:28 PM
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What charges would you like to bring up against Obama?
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sure has all your left leaning
Jun 11, 2022, 3:20 PM
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Nut jobs panties in a wad now doesnt it. Its not going to help you in November no matter how then spin it
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