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Re: State run propaganda outlet Fox News is now questioning
Jul 2, 2018, 4:20 PM
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I am shocked. Anyway, this will probably only make Cohen feel more betrayed and make him spill the beans.
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110%er [6101]
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Whatever emerges from a lawyer-client confidentiality breach
Jul 2, 2018, 4:41 PM
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, I will ignore. This is a blatant attempt to find something, ANYTHING on Trump. It's well outside Muellers original scope and purpose.
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"Whatever emerges...I will ignore"
Jul 2, 2018, 4:52 PM
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Fixed it for ya.
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Legend [16227]
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Interesting that the Ken Starr Whitewater IC resulted in
Jul 2, 2018, 9:02 PM
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an undisclosed BJ (3 years running) as the only prosecutorial offense while Mueller's investigation has indicted 13 Russian entities / individuals plus brought numerous American international double dealers to justice alongside.
When both sides of the "privilege" are breaking the law in the process, it's no longer 'privileged'.
Nice try, Macedon. Keep up the fine work.
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Re: State run propaganda outlet Fox News is now questioning
Jul 2, 2018, 4:20 PM
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Wow, I never give TD's but I got one on this. Seems someone really likes Harris Faulkner.
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wait a dog gone minute
Jul 2, 2018, 4:24 PM
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I called The Media, state run, during Obama's tenure and just about every lib on here dogged me for calling it that.
What changed?
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Re: wait a dog gone minute
Jul 2, 2018, 4:29 PM
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Probably because people didn't take you seriously because yo thought Obama was a racist secret Muslim from Kenya etc.  That and the fact everyone is partisan and now it our turn to attack the conservative station now that Trump is office. I will say, that although I am biased, I thin Fox is much more state run like with less professional integrity than the other "fake news" sources.
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Rasslin' analogy. Fox is just openly biased, while
Jul 2, 2018, 5:07 PM
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all of the other networks are still in kayfabe mode, carrying on the charade that it's just objective reporting of the facts by truth-seekers. Fox is the WWE of the news world, open about their bias but carrying on the show knowing that everybody knows. Funny thing is, once McMahon and WWE had to admit it was all fake, everybody else gave up too. The mainstream media carries on however, their "fans" in total denial.
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Re: Rasslin' analogy. Fox is just openly biased, while
Jul 2, 2018, 6:01 PM
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Definitely truth to that. Vey well put. I think many of us on the left notice it though. I know I am tired of it. I can't speak for conservatives, but do they see it at Fox too though?
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Fair point, but I don't think they need to.
Jul 2, 2018, 8:15 PM
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Every one of my liberal friends certainly knows Fox is biased. Funny thing is, all of my conservative friends know it too; they tune in for the conservative perspective. In spite of their "fair and balanced" tagline, they aren't fooling anybody, because they aren't trying very hard to do so. They represent the conservative viewpoint - plain and simple. On the other hand, almost all of my liberal friends think that NBC/MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, New York Times, Huffington Post, etc. are straight down the middle, providing honest, unbiased reporting of the facts. They believe that their opinion shows, like "Meet The Press", "Morning Joe", "This Week With George Stephanopoulos" are fair and balanced. That's the difference.
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I think one can make an argument for CBS/CNN/ABC/NBC/Times
Jul 2, 2018, 10:32 PM
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at least making the attempt to be down the middle (some more so than others possibly). I think it's a false equivalency to compare what Fox News is and what these other networks are. It's a narrative that many on the right want to push so that they can discredit all media and push people further into their bubbles.
Huffington Post though? Yeah, no, they don't belong in the same category with these other networks.
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Re: I think one can make an argument for CBS/CNN/ABC/NBC/Times
Jul 2, 2018, 11:00 PM
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I dont recall the Times, or CNN intentionally doctoring audio, or photo shopping people's pictures.
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I think they make an effort to appear down the middle,
Jul 3, 2018, 12:20 AM
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but that's about it. Their talking head/opinion/panel shows are all dominated by liberals and the ocassional milk-toast, mired-in-the-swamp republican. Anyone that even remotely defends Trump is outnumbered on the panel 4 or 5 to 1.
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Re: I think they make an effort to appear down the middle,
Jul 3, 2018, 5:31 AM
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While that may be true of CNN (I don't watch), that certainly is not true of the big three networks. Shows like Face The Nation have great panel discussions.
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Thanks for proving my point.
Jul 3, 2018, 11:00 AM
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I'll admit Face The Nation is my favorite of the bunch, and is the most even handed with lots of good one on one discussions. The rest are all heavily dominated by liberals and swamp Republicans. The panel or roundtable on The Today Show and This Week With George Stephanopoulos are led and steered by liberal hosts who have tremendous, obvious disdain for Trump. Anybody defending Trump on either of those shows is outnumbered 3 or 4 to one every time. CNN is just sad in their "reporting" and political discussions. They all used to be mainstream, but half of the country supports Trump, at least enough to vote for him. Recent poll numbers reflect that support. This all remains a mystery to the major networks and news outlets, however, as their talking heads are still trying to explain it or pretend it isn't so.
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Where are you getting that half the country supports Trump?
Jul 3, 2018, 4:14 PM
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I see around 40% that approve of his job (which is different than support I'm told) so far, and no where near half the country voted in the election let alone for Trump.
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Good Lord, man.***
Jul 3, 2018, 6:39 PM
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Re: wait a dog gone minute
Jul 2, 2018, 4:36 PM
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I called The Media, state run, during Obama's tenure and just about every lib on here dogged me for calling it that.
What changed?
Soo, you're saying that Fox News is no better than liberal media?
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State run propaganda involves collective coordination of multiple outlets
Jul 2, 2018, 4:37 PM
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..simultaneously. This is important in order to maintain continuity, as the following illustrates:
https://imgur.com/a/IYIClOl
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Re: State run propaganda involves collective coordination of multiple outlets
Jul 2, 2018, 4:42 PM
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You think the Holocaust is a hoax. Maybe you're not the best judge of real or fake.
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They got Cohen by the short hairs
Jul 2, 2018, 5:48 PM
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They own him now. Don't know what that gives them, but they have it.
Oh, how was it again that they came to take his records? Was it Russian collusion? If not they may be hard pressed to proceed. Seems like it was the payoff to the #### star as a campaign contribution or something as I recall. It all gets confusing, which is what they want.
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Re: They got Cohen by the short hairs
Jul 4, 2018, 11:01 PM
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Mueller is working the Russia collusion investigation, but he's also farming-out other crimes the FBI uncovers. Cohen will be prosecuted by others for financial crimes by the Southern District of NY and the State of NY, likely money laundering with the Russians through bogus real estate purchases.
Of course, if he spills on Russian collusion by TheRump, and money laundering by TheRump, his jail time will be diminished.
And TheRump can't pardon his friends, family, or himself from charges brought by the states.
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