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Here's a problem with soccer and why we American sports
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Here's a problem with soccer and why we American sports

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Jun 28, 2014, 12:51 PM

fans don't really enjoy it.

Drama.

Pauses in a game create drama. 4th and goal, 2 out with a full count in the 9th, 10 secs left and inbounding at midcourt.
The pauses at critical moments give you time to contemplate the strategy, the players, the implications.

Soccer's constant motion makes the drama too quick to anticipate it. All the drama is after-the-fact once a goal is scored.

That and all the flopping and writhing in fake pain.

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There's some truth to that.


Jun 28, 2014, 12:57 PM

It's why penalty kicks are the most dramatic part of soccer.

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There is no truth to that

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:07 PM

There is nothing more anticlimactic than a tv timeout before a fourth down.

The constant movement is what is so great about soccer. You're down a goal and you're going to have that tension for 30 straight minutes with no pauses to go relieve yourself or take your mind off of the situation.

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Jun 29, 2014, 1:32 AM

Negative ghost rider. Nice try though. There is nothing exciting about soccer.

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Re: Here's a problem with soccer and why we American sports

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:08 PM

American sports fans don't enjoy it? You are aware that mid-day mid week games are getting ratings higher than the World Series in the United States, right? When was the last time you saw millions and millions gathered in large public places watching big screens all over the country for sporting events? This is an ignorant post. Soccer is becoming one of the most popular sports in America and some would argue, due to tv ratings, 2nd only to football now. I live in Austin, TX and the city was pretty much shut down on Thursday as it was in a lot of major cities. No one went to work. Everyone watched the U.S. game. It isn't just the U.S. Other World Cup games are getting enormous ratings and the British Premiere League is getting better ratings than baseball.

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Yeah the idea that Americans don't care


Jun 28, 2014, 1:11 PM

Anymore is absurd. I am in San Antonio and it was pretty much the same story as Austin

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That's called patriotism not love of soccer. I hate soccer

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:30 PM

With a passion and I was at a sports bar watching that game and the three strangers sitting by said they have not watched a soccer game in 4 years and was just there because it was America playing. This sport is not exciting, and it's is so frustrating watching all the fake injuries. If I played this sport and someone faked and injury that caused me to get some kind of card, I guarantee that player would not finish the game for REAL.

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Re: That's called patriotism not love of soccer. I hate soccer


Jun 28, 2014, 5:45 PM

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Re: That's called patriotism not love of soccer. I hate soccer


Jun 28, 2014, 6:56 PM

Yep. Not a big fan of soccer either, but i did go to a number of games back when was at Clemson and Clemson was winning national championships in the sport.

But I watched a decent part of 2 USA games int his world cup. I watched the US women's world cup and Olympic teams a few times.

But it was Team USA not soccer that was the draw.

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Re: That's called patriotism not love of soccer. I hate soccer


Jun 29, 2014, 9:27 AM

Got a point. I'm into it, only because I can watch USA. I don't hate the sport just never interested in it.

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:32 PM

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/american-soccer-renaissance-or-more-hipster-hype/

It’s a social crime to not be in lock step with the hipsters who have joined with the small group of adult soccer fans who actually are consumers of this sport in this country.

There’s a lot of them. World Cup television ratings are at a record high in America, and if you don’t know that yet, the hipsters will tell you. Not only that, but they’ll tell you how a once-every-four-years soccer tournament has higher ratings than the annual World Series or NBA finals.

You see, it isn’t enough to just enjoy the World Cup and that people decided to dabble in soccer for a few weeks. No, for the hipsters to get the full satisfaction they have to show they are smarter than you, more sophisticated than you — hipper than you.


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Jun 28, 2014, 6:58 PM

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

In the John Waters-esque sector of northwest Baltimore — equal parts kitschy, sketchy, artsy and weird — Gerry Mak and Sarah Magida sauntered through a small ethnic market stocked with Japanese eggplant, mint chutney and fresh turmeric. After gathering ingredients for that evening’s dinner, they walked to the cash register and awaited their moments of truth.

“I have $80 bucks left!” Magida said. “I’m so happy!”

“I have $12,” Mak said with a frown.

The two friends weren’t tabulating the cash in their wallets but what remained of the monthly allotment on their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program debit cards, the official new term for what are still known colloquially as food stamps.

Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding — and her usual gigs — to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she’s used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away.

“I’m eating better than I ever have before,” she told me. “Even with food stamps, it’s not like I’m living large, but it helps.”

Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”

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That's because American pride has a thing to say about that.

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:40 PM

When the US gets knocked out, see how the ratings are then.

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Jun 28, 2014, 1:55 PM

Agreed!!!!!

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Jun 28, 2014, 2:07 PM

Patriotism or not, The U.S. Soccer games are being watched by more people than the NBA Finals or World Series. ####, the Mexico-Brazil(non U.S.) game on a weekday afternoon had just 1.5 million less viewers than the Georgia-Clemson in primetime on a Saturday night.

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Jun 28, 2014, 5:13 PM

I don't think the Mexico/Brazil game is a good example. There are more naturally born Mexicans that are soccer fans in the US than there are citizens of georgia and sc combined.... When the Germany vs Belgium championship game is higher rated in the us than just about anything else, then let's talk...

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Jun 28, 2014, 7:02 PM

Yep. 15M or so illegal aliens from Mexico, plus a significant number of legal citizens of Mexican descent.

Too bad, too, I expect that once you become a US citizen, you pull for Team USA first and foremost. Saddens me to see US citizens with Brazil flag draped over their car.

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Re: That's because American pride has a thing to say about that.


Jun 29, 2014, 2:23 AM

While I have enjoyed watching the World Cup, I do believe that you are failing to take into account key factors that are attributing to the recent rise in soccer ratings.

1. This country always has an appetite to perform well on the Global stage. When a team wears the letters USA on its uniform, they will be supported by a fan base that doesn't just consist of a particular region, state, or city in this country. It is supported by ALL Americans coast to coast. Even if it was the World Cup of badminton and horseshoes, there would be a reason to watch bc they are a US team

2. There is another big event that happens every four years called the olympics. The highest tv ratings go to things like gymnastics, track and field, and figure skating. I will watch those events to support our athletes but when those events are over, I don't give a darn for any of those sports

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Jun 29, 2014, 7:28 AM

But that is comparing a whole world population, where soccer is the only sport, to the southeastern region of the United States, and I know people all over the country watched but the majority were in the south. Not to mention at the time of the clemson game baseball is still on so some are watching that and it was Labor Day weekend so a lot of people could of been out away from their tv at home.

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Soccer interest in my opinion


Jun 28, 2014, 2:09 PM

Soccer fans keep trying to elevate the sport and good for them - but i just don't see it.
It is the support of USA that comes out. My office turned several TV's on for the Germany match, it was good. After an incredibly boring 1-0 game - we went back to our lives and soccer will not cross the minds of the people I know until something like that happens again.
I will ask - who won? But don't confuse that with me wanting to turn on a game and watch it for hours and see a 0-0 game.

Similar to curling at the Olympics. Fun for a few minutes - then forget about it 30 minutes later.

I have a lt of respect for people that play and when I was at Clemson, I used to go watch when I could - but it just does not interest me as a sport.

Will it ever come close to real football? I don't see it.
Basketball - nah
Baseball - nope
It ranks with hockey though.

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Jun 28, 2014, 2:25 PM

Well TV ratings and attendance suggest otherwise. But lets ignore the facts. Why not? When a U.S. Soccer game is more watched than the World Series (including the deciding game) and The NBA Finals, you really don't have a great argument. Will it ever be the NFL? No. I believe it is already bigger than baseball in the major cities. Viewership in the South is very low and that is probably why you guys don't see it for what it is. Viewership is enormous in NY, SF, DC, LA, Boston, Seattle, Austin and the cities that lead the way in change in this country.

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Jun 28, 2014, 10:00 PM

I guess it's the new in thing to like soccer.I would never want to gauge something by looking to the states you mentioned. Their thinking is pretty screwed up on everything else. Why would they get this right?

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The pauses and ensuing drama you refer to happen often

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Jun 28, 2014, 2:43 PM

throughout the game with corner and direct kicks. Penalty kicks add another dimension.

Much closer to the more exciting, constant pace of college basketball, along with a similar time frame for the game itself usually.

Soccer might ultimately be #4 or 5 on America's list of favorite sports, but interest continues to grow regularly and will only continue to do so in the coming years.

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Here is why I think it's popularity is iffy


Jun 28, 2014, 2:57 PM

If you took the greatest team in the history of the World Cup and matched them against the worst team in the history of the World Cup, the game would probably be 4-0 after 90 minutes. There is too much space with too many players for someone to dominate.

It has interest worldwide due to how inexpensive it is and that anyone can play it, you can hide poor players but still allow them on the "team" and there are very few rules needed to keep the game going.

I have nothing personal against soccer but don't see it ever getting the viewing ratings but golf is almost the same to me. BORING!!

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there have been some routs in the past


Jun 28, 2014, 3:13 PM

Germany beat Saudi Arabia 8-0 in 2002

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cool story bro.


Jun 28, 2014, 5:47 PM

nm

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Too much running and not enough slobber


Jun 28, 2014, 3:04 PM

knocking hitting.

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Re: Here's a problem with soccer and why we American sports

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Jun 28, 2014, 4:06 PM

Only reason American sports have 'pauses' is for financial gain aka commercials. Aka weak...

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Jun 28, 2014, 10:11 PM

I wouldn't say that. You could consider the times during which a player has possession of the ball but isn't being challenged as the pauses that create the drama.

I think the problem with soccer as a spectator sport is that there are very few "checkpoint" moments that determine the game. The ball goes back and forth with only the few goals scored as those checkpoint moments. In football you have the 1st downs, punts, and turnovers that happen during drives as those checkpoint moments, not just the touchdowns.

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Jun 29, 2014, 5:15 AM

College football has always been and will always be my #1 favorite sport to watch. Nothing else even comes close.

But if you're suggesting that all the pauses, commercial breaks, and 30 minute half time is what makes it more fun to watch then soccer I'll have to completely disagree. I think that's the ONE advantage that soccer has over American Football to be honest.

I do agree with all the flopping being completely annoying but that's dead horse has been beaten over and over. The reality is that the fake injury BS isn't a huge problem in the Premier League but mainly in the Latin leagues, especially in Latin America.

I thought I could never watch pro baseball then I had a friend introduce me to the Braves. I thought I could never watch the PGA and my dad got me into it. I thought I could never enjoy watching Rugby until an Irish friend got me watching the 6 Nations Tourney and the Rugby World Cup. I thought no way would I ever like to watch soccer and then I had several Clemson player friends who got me into it and especially enjoyed it when I lived in South America.

Open your minds people...it's a big world out there.

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