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I’m tired of DJ being blamed
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I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 8:48 PM

when our offensive line, wide receivers, and offensive coaching staff have been just as inconsistent and disappointing recently.

Cade Klubnik is going to struggle too if he doesn’t have a line that provides good protection, receivers that run clean routes and catch the ball consistently, and coaches that can formulate a game plan that puts the offense in a position to succeed.

Don’t get me wrong, DJ has struggled at times. But he is not the entirety of our problems on offense. Not even close!

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 8:50 PM

He’s way too slow & will never get us there

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Then why did we recruit him?***


Sep 6, 2022, 8:57 PM



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Re: Then why did we recruit him?***


Sep 6, 2022, 9:08 PM

Playing the devil's advocate here, but, why do people get married more than once?

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So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?***


Sep 6, 2022, 9:09 PM



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Re: So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?***


Sep 6, 2022, 9:12 PM

So, people get married more than once because they made a mistake the first time? Is that what you are saying?

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Re: So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?***


Sep 6, 2022, 9:17 PM

I think they thought they married Notre Dame DJ but ended up with crazy Karyn.

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Re: So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?***


Sep 13, 2022, 12:13 PM

I don’t care who what or when a mistake was made for goodness sake‘s let’s correct it and that starts with eliminating DJ as the starter.

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in this case Tiger fans are the woman in the relationship


Sep 7, 2022, 8:47 AM [ in reply to Re: So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?*** ]

as soon as she sees the man (DJU) may not be the one to provide everything she needs, stumbles a bit, and he likely needs her the most....

she's on to the next one

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Re: in this case Tiger fans are the woman in the relationship


Sep 7, 2022, 9:04 AM

This is such a stupid analogy. He's not a spouse. He's an employee who's paid to perform. Yes, if he cannot provide what we need, then we should move to the next one.

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Uneven & poor analogy****


Sep 7, 2022, 9:49 AM



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In my marriage, I was DJ, our marriage was the offense


Sep 7, 2022, 11:02 AM [ in reply to in this case Tiger fans are the woman in the relationship ]

And my ex-wife was the idiotic fan who blames every mistake the offense makes on DJ

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Re: In my marriage, I was DJ, our marriage was the offense


Sep 13, 2022, 12:15 PM

Well if you talk like that about someone who doesn’t share your view then It’s no wonder you have an ex-wife

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Re: So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?***


Sep 8, 2022, 12:43 PM [ in reply to So you’re saying our coaches made a mistake?*** ]

Wait a minute…That don’t fit the narrative here with these old farts on TN. Don’t you know CDS and his coaches are above reproach and should never be questioned?

However, I do agree that DJ is in the wrong scheme and May would do better somewhere like Wisconsin with a Pro Style offense!

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 7, 2022, 10:25 AM [ in reply to Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed ]

He looked bad in the first quarter, just as if I was watching him from a year ago. He got better as the game advanced, but the kid from Texas is better. I watched him in the High school state championships and he is talented and a winner.

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QB decisions make the rest of the team look bad


Sep 6, 2022, 8:51 PM

or good, depending on the QB.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 8:53 PM

Judge, when he gets replaced by Cade you won't hear anymore blame being thrown DJ's way. But you are correct, the entire offense needs to improve.

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Dabo is in a tough situation


Sep 6, 2022, 9:13 PM

And I feel for him but he is going to be forced to make a tough decision regarding the QB position. It is unfortunate that the next two games are laughers and the QB position will not be tested. I have yet to hear any of the ‘experts’ analysts on tv say anything positive about DJ. The game against Wake will really be a big game and a must win game if the Tigers want to be ranked in the top five. The offense just doesn’t function like a top notch team should. The GT game was a totally different game when the QB change was made. The OL isn’t a strong point for the Tigers either. Wake is expecting their QB back in the lineup maybe this weekend. A lot of tough calls coming up and I don’t envy the coaches being forced to make make major changes this early in the season. Clemson will have to improve offensively and they need to start Saturday even though the opponent isn’t a threat.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 8:55 PM

You are tired because your intellect is high enough to understand and you accept things for what they are. You are appreciated, well done.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 9:00 PM

Maybe you can change your profile to DJ since apparently you’re going to make excuses like you do with Brownell.

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I’m stating facts, not making excuses.


Sep 6, 2022, 9:14 PM

He completed a decent percentage of his passes last night. He would’ve had a few more completions if the WRs had caught very catchable balls. He threw no INTs.

Other than one fumble, and taking a sack he shouldn’t have, I thought he played a clean game. He rallied our offense when we really needed to take control of the game. I was very pleased, especially after last year.

Some of you seem to be extra critical of DJ, I assume because you want Cade to be the starter. I get it, we are all excited about Cade. But the last thing we want to do is make a true freshman our starter when we haven’t addressed the other major issues on offense. That won’t end well.

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Re: I’m stating facts, not making excuses.


Sep 7, 2022, 10:54 AM


He completed a decent percentage of his passes last night. He would’ve had a few more completions if the WRs had caught very catchable balls. He threw no INTs.

Other than one fumble, and taking a sack he shouldn’t have, I thought he played a clean game. He rallied our offense when we really needed to take control of the game. I was very pleased, especially after last year.

Some of you seem to be extra critical of DJ, I assume because you want Cade to be the starter. I get it, we are all excited about Cade. But the last thing we want to do is make a true freshman our starter when we haven’t addressed the other major issues on offense. That won’t end well.




On the 19 of the 32 pass attempts DJU averaged 6.6 yards per reception so of course you will have a high completion percentage on check-down throws.

I noticed you asked on some of the threads I've read if the coaches made a mistake in DJU? On paper he was a good pick but it's not working out. The real question is how long before they allow this to play out.

Fans can publicly say things coaches either won't or can't do to maintain team cohesion.

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None of them made him slow as smoke off chit in Jan...


Sep 6, 2022, 9:00 PM

or unable to read a DE to effectively run an option read, or unable to hit a target moving laterally or catch a snap that's barely over head high (if he hadn't dropped his hand he wouldn't have missed that snap). None of his teammates cause him to fumble or throw all those interceptions last year and no body held him in the pocket so that he got sacked so many times.

All our problems aren't on DJ cause he has more than enough to weigh him down already.


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Your subject line is going to have me laughing all day!


Sep 7, 2022, 10:54 AM

I will have to remember that one!!! Pure gold

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I bet you by game 4 or 5 — Dj will not be a starter***


Sep 6, 2022, 9:23 PM



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Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that.


Sep 6, 2022, 9:38 PM

But changing QBs won’t magically transform the other players on offense into the stars we need them to be if we want to win another national championship.

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or maybe changing qb will make everyone better


Sep 7, 2022, 7:28 AM

That’s what good qb’s do

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Okay, then better players around DJ


Sep 7, 2022, 11:09 AM

should make him better too.

He currently has the worst crop of receivers we've had at Clemson in over a decade.

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Re: Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that.***


Sep 7, 2022, 10:55 AM [ in reply to Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that. ]



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Re: Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that.


Sep 7, 2022, 10:58 AM [ in reply to Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that. ]


But changing QBs won’t magically transform the other players on offense into the stars we need them to be if we want to win another national championship.




That's not necessarily true. CK's quickness, decision making, throwing accuracy and ability to extend plays creates opportunities we aren't getting with DJU.

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i dunno switching from bryant to lawrence


Sep 8, 2022, 6:23 PM [ in reply to Perhaps you’re right. I’m totally fine with that. ]

seemed to make the players on the offense better for some odd reason

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I agree... DJ has worked hard in the off-season


Sep 6, 2022, 9:28 PM

Give the guy a chance to show his stuff. If he can't cut the Mustard, then so be it. But right now let's support him.
Go Tigers!!!

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When is our basketball team going to have


Sep 6, 2022, 9:36 PM

consistent players, a coach that puts them in the position to win and knows how to put a game plan together?

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 6, 2022, 9:49 PM

Cade can move the pocket while DJ cannot. That is how you compensate for having a weak offensive line. Cade rolls out so quick and makes a decision. I don’t care if it was end of the game garbage time, Cade looked impressive. Don’t take my word for it. Read all of the articles from the national media today. Rewatch the game and listen to the tv announcers and their comments. The Clemson offense is built for a quick, mobile QB. Cade did not look like a freshman getting his first live snaps. The middle of the field was wide open last night. DJ was not seeing wide open receivers. Cade was threading the needle between defenders. There are some things that cannot be coached.

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Why do we have a weak offensive line?


Sep 7, 2022, 11:11 AM

Why can't our receivers create separation and catch the ball consistently?

These are issues a young up-and-coming team should have, not a program which played for a national championship not too long ago.

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Re: Why do we have a weak offensive line?


Sep 8, 2022, 4:18 PM

Some of that has to do with how opposing defenses are able to scheme against Clemson, due to deficiencies at the quarterback position.

My hope is that maybe some of that was just Uiagalelei "shaking off the rust" in the first game, and we will see improvement in the coming weeks.

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It’s like if everyone around dj were perfect


Sep 7, 2022, 7:28 AM

Think how good he’d be

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 7, 2022, 7:42 AM

I agree that the offensive line in offensive. I expected it to look better than it did. Maybe it is the gel thing. DJ looked the same as he did his freshman year. Go back and watch his footwork. The bad sack he took which ultimately helped ND win. I think he has digressed. I was so frustrated for much of the first half. The falling down pitch to Shipley seemed to change his momentum. Still poor wr play and offensive coaching cannot totally be blamed. They are playing to his skill set and abilities. Rolling him out of the pocket is a better look for him. QB keeps he waits too long every, EVERY time. However, I was encouraged by his play after the 1st half.

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Who put the "L" in BrowneLL


I don't know...


Sep 7, 2022, 8:31 AM

CK is faster and more mobile compared to DJ which opens-up some things offensively that may not be as well-suited to DJ's skill set.

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If quickness is such a necessary attribute


Sep 7, 2022, 11:12 AM

for our offense to be successful, why did we recruit DJ?

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Re: If quickness is such a necessary attribute


Sep 8, 2022, 6:11 PM

Obviously we have no idea what the coaches think, but me guess is they thought Uiagalelei would've such a good passer that he would make up for any athletic deficiency with his arm. He had offers from Alabama, Ohio St, Georgia, Michigan, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, and LSU, so apparently a lot of people thought he had that kind of talent.

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Brownell’s responsible for this. I don’t know how, but I just know he is***


Sep 7, 2022, 8:58 AM



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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 7, 2022, 9:04 AM

Not saying this is the case, but if DJ is too slow making reads, and getting the offense off rhythm, it would look like those other groups were failing. Especially if you add in being too immobile to buy time when it breaks down.

So possibly you’re tired of OL/WR/OC and even RB being blamed due to an ineffective QB.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 7, 2022, 9:39 AM

DJ is the catalyst of our offensive woes. He sits awkwardly in the pocket, is inaccurate, and is not very good at reading the defense. He is extremely limited.

He was statistically the second worse qb in the ACC last year, and he only looks slightly improved this year. You can't tell me that every qb ahead of him had a better oline and WRs

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DJ has been in the program for a while now.


Sep 7, 2022, 11:15 AM

It certainly calls into question our coaches' ability to evaluate talent or our coaches' ability to develop 5 star players. Or maybe a little of both.

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CBB STILL SUCKS and you know this****


Sep 7, 2022, 9:48 AM



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All true, but CK is the best option with "what we got".


Sep 7, 2022, 10:28 AM

He covers our (inexcusable) weaknesses.

So I agree, not fair to put it all on DJU, but OTOH, if we're going with the QB who gives us the best chance to win, it is clear who that is.

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I agree, Klubnik seems to have the higher ceiling


Sep 7, 2022, 11:17 AM

and I won't be surprised if he's the starter before the season ends.

I am for the best player playing. I just don't think most of the criticism of DJ is fair.

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Promise all of us...


Sep 7, 2022, 10:46 AM

you won't need any more rest when the receivers and offensive coaching staff suddenly improve when Cade plays.

Another thing that might improve is the running game. The pathetic read-option with DJ might become lethal when the QB can run faster than 3 mph.

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There is NO read-option with DJ. I want the dude to win


Sep 7, 2022, 11:10 AM

every single football game he ever plays for the rest of his life - but there is NO read-option in his game.

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Well, these coaches recruited DJ and knew exactly


Sep 7, 2022, 11:23 AM [ in reply to Promise all of us... ]

what they were getting. They were getting a big QB, rated as the #1 pro style QB in high school. They were not getting a fast, dual threat QB.

Trying to make him something he isn't, and calling him names when he doesn't live up to those expectations, is ridiculous.

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I'll give you this


Sep 8, 2022, 1:47 PM

1 The coaches definitely missed on DJ. That is on them, not him.

2 Running the read-option with DJ is a dumb idea, which is totally on the coaches.

If his pocket presence last year was even average, his lack of mobility would have been less lethal to the offense. But put together, he's starting out with two strikes.

DJ deserves most of the criticism he gets. His lack of dedication last year was disturbing.

When Cade plays, take notice of how other areas of the offense improve, like receivers being open.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 7, 2022, 11:20 AM

The problem goes deeper than quarterback. I think Cade has the tools to disguise our bad offense while DJ doesn't.

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Yes, much like Deshaun and Trevor before him.


Sep 7, 2022, 11:24 AM

The problem for Cade is that he doesn't have the talent at WR and RB that those other two did.

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DW4 didn't have a great RB


Sep 8, 2022, 1:56 PM

I agree Trevor was handed the keys to a Cadillac. Great receivers, a nuclear threat RB, a good O-line his freshman year and great defenses.

Deshaun had a great receiver, but the O-line wasn't anything special, no defense planned for Gallman and the defenses were decent but not against Alabama.

Cade will have a great defense and doesn't need to be Deshaun for this team to be a contender. He just has to bring the best out of others, which I think could happen.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 8:48 AM

I don’t think you can blame DJ for everything…never have. But DJ isn’t playing great. Here’s an unbiased eval:

https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/scouting-reports/djuiagalelei


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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 12:39 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWn8TZD0kLA

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Re: Ouch!


Sep 8, 2022, 2:15 PM [ in reply to Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed ]

"He is well built, displays impressive play strength and he has a cannon for an arm. Uiagalelei is able to throw the ball downfield effortlessly. Uiagalelei can truly throw the ball from any position as far as any quarterback in college football. His size and arm strength are super enticing but outside of that, he doesn’t have many redeeming qualities."

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 1:29 PM

The difference is that Cade can move and get out of the pocket and is much more accurate than DJ. He also makes a decision and delivers the ball on time. I'm not saying replace DJ but when you fail to score on 4 consecutive possessions put the rook in and see if he can give us a spark.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 2:09 PM

I like your posts because you like to stir the pot!

When he was recruited, there was pretty much a national consensus about the tools he possessed. And in his Freshman year, at Notre Dame, he looked as good as advertised.

He became the starter as a sophomore and instead of continuing to improve, he's regressed. The perplexing thing is that he looked GREAT in South Bend. You know that the skill is in there, but week in and week out he shows the same shortfalls on the field.

Yes, the OL was atrocious last year. And I don't see a lot suggesting why the OL will be much better this year. (It's always interesting when a bad team has lots of returning starters and they are optimistic about the experienced players. If a player wasn't good last year is he really going to be suddenly great this year.) Unfortunately, DJ's worst habits don't help.

DJ is uncomfortable being mobile - something you don't expect from a guy of that size. He stands in the pocket for two-and-a-half seconds waiting for his first option to get open. He rarely looks for his second or third options. And after that two-and-a-half seconds, he takes off if there is daylight or he gets sacked (the problem with the bad OL).

Beyond that, he just doesn't look comfortable back there at all. He doesn't play smoothly, going with the flow of the game or the play. You see him and it feels like he has to think about everything, and at some point you have to just "do" rather than thinking and doing. He just doesn't use his instinct. I think that is a big problem for a lot of prospects who don't produce at the next level. Hunter Johnson and Taisun Phommachanh were the same way. They never looked like they were ever comfortable enough to just play the game. (I think this is the biggest problem and can't be coached out of a guy.) Compare with our big time successes - they look like the game is moving in slow motion and that they are instantly processing a lot during the plays. I think Cade showed some of that (admittedly in one garbage time drive), but he looked completely comfortable, completely smooth.

Lastly - and I certainly may be in the minority here - I don't think he throws the ball very well. Sure, he has a strong arm, but his placement doesn't always give the receivers the best chance to catch the ball. I don't mean the overthrows, but the little things - throwing slightly behind a guy. DJ's throws tend to create more work for the receivers. He also lacks touch, so often throws bullets when he might be better off with finesse, but more air under the ball.

I think if Cade Klubnik plays, the receivers are suddenly going to look a whole lot better. And while the OL won't be any better, I think Cade has the tools step around and hit more passes. You can fairly knock the coaching staff - after the awful season DJU had in 2021, we promoted his QB Coach to OC? But give us a QB who hits 10% more of his passes than does DJ and I believe the play-calling is going to suddenly seem a lot better.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 4:07 PM

Last year when they took the football away from DJ and gave it to the running backs we won football games with the same offensive line and everyone from the Dr. Pepper salesman to the janitor knew we were going to run it...sorry judge but DJ is slow, immobile in the pocket, he gets the same amount of time that the NCS qb gets but gets sacked twice as much...he can't process the reading of defenses so his progression is in need of fixing...ie make the playbook smaller for DJ, limit his reads and limit our scoring and winning...blame it on the line is easy, they were dropping footballs, can't run etc...next game against a real team count the seconds DJ has back there (standing like a rock) and compare that to the norm which is 5-6 seconds at best...good WR's run a 40 in 4.5...forty yards down the field and DJ has already given up and is looking for the exit...great kid, great leader, all those things but a QB that can win a natty...NO!

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 4:11 PM

This is a perfect passive aggressive troll thread from someone who is not a Clemson fan. You either agree with him and bash our staff and other players. Disagree with him and trash our qb. He’s good at what he does and it’s better not to play.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 4:36 PM

There is one good way to see if Cade would struggle behind this OL with our receivers.

Just say'n.

I'm thinking Cade is a gamer. DJ continues to make me think he might be a better practice player than game time player. There are players like that who struggle to perform in live games. Again, just say'n.

Cade is worthy of prime time action. The jury is still out on DJ. I've not seen him looking composed in the pocket. He looks slow and a bit lost.

Time will tell. I trust Dabo.

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Re: I’m tired of DJ being blamed


Sep 8, 2022, 4:36 PM

There is one good way to see if Cade would struggle behind this OL with our receivers.

Just say'n.

I'm thinking Cade is a gamer. DJ continues to make me think he might be a better practice player than game time player. There are players like that who struggle to perform in live games. Again, just say'n.

Cade is worthy of prime time action. The jury is still out on DJ. I've not seen him looking composed in the pocket. He looks slow and a bit lost.

Time will tell. I trust Dabo.

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