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WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 6:32 PM
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UGA's DB's really have no chance to stay with our WR's...if...IF, our O Line can protect! They may improve under Pruitt but not by this game.
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too? and looking FOR people?
Aug 14, 2014, 7:42 PM
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sorry to be the grammar police.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 7:56 PM
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Oh yeah, we are so scared after you lost over half of your yards and TD's and your top 2 guys, who were by FAR the best 2 receivers on your team, the other really are just backups and that's all you have this season...
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 8:28 PM
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Well put. Listen, the Dawg Nation hasn't a clue what a top WR looks like since AJ Green left. Across the nation, nobody doubts the depth and potential of Clemson's skill positions. So head's up UGA DB's
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 15, 2014, 8:00 AM
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I already did my research, and besides I have seen y'all discredit any of our players that didn't play last year, so why should I believe that any of your players are good?? And you can't dispute the fact that I am right, you lost your best WR ever, the second best from last year, and one of your best QB's, yet y'all act like you offense is going to be STRONGER than last year??
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 15, 2014, 10:10 AM
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That might be because most of your players were in the game, so what is there to discredit?
...just like Peake was....he did after all have the next highest numbers to Sammy in the UGA game...his injury wasn't until September.
Just like how Gurley was only out less than 1 qtr of play, though every mutt wants to act like it was longer. I've shown time and time again a screenshot that shows Gurly was back in around the 10:15 mark of the 2nd quarter, and throughout the game there on...that's why we aren't on that hype train you are...we stopped him the majority of the game minus 2 big plays.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 15, 2014, 10:16 AM
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let's see...what UGA players were missing in that game minus Malcolm Mitchell, who incidentally WAS in the game, till he thought a chest bump was a cool way to go out? Any that are relevant to this year's team?
Could have swore Gurley went out over half way in the 1st quarter and was back out there running the ball around the 10:13 mark of the 2nd quarter....could have swore Marshall made only short 1 touchdown, and was practially stuffed most of the game. Could have swore Murray was in the entire game...so was Swann while Sammy was feeding him a butt whooping...
Go ahead, tell how your freshman that weren't there last year are gonna do something only your team could do (like Clemson's freshmen couldn't)...please....
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 15, 2014, 10:22 AM
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That gang tackle of Gurley when he got his first touch out in the flat was one of my favorite plays of that game
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Yeah, because you have been on the practice fields
Aug 14, 2014, 8:16 PM
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this fall right? No way we could have a true freshman come in and light it up right? Sammy Watkins?
Nice try.
Besides, don't y'all need to be in the meeting rooms trying to figure out how to beat Vandy?
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 8:35 PM
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Ok, so, let's break this down reasonably.
I know Peake was really good coming out of high school.
With that said, you lost arguably the best WR you ever had. A guy who had 1/2 his yards on first down. You lost one of the best QBs you ever had... A guy who saw the field real well and made smart reads when he was not under significant pressure.
You also lost lineman and a solid RB...
That is a lot to replace. Regardless of the system.
So, who will be playing DB for UGA and why won't they be able to handle Xlemsons WR depth? Will all these other losses of key offensive players not significantly affect Clemson's offensive production?
And if you want to respond with anything other than football talk, I ask that you post your nonsense on one of the many threads on here that have nothing to do with football. Thanks...
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 8:55 PM
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This is hilarious. I wonder what you said about our "solid" RB before last years game? Funny I hear dawg fans do nothing but hype up every single player we lost. Then I hear nothing about the signal caller they lost or that TE who was a constant safety net for Murray and Mason. Or that one tackle who was supposed to be all-world.
Pretty sure most dawgs didn't think we would have any production on offense last year either after losing Nuk, Ford, Ellington, Freeman. Heard many call Sammy a one-hit wonder until he trucked one of their defenders and out ran the rest.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 8:58 PM
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Ok, now that you have projected, can you answer my questions please?
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I love how you are continuing this innocent
Aug 14, 2014, 9:08 PM
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charade.
Oh, I come to the Clemson boards to make a ruckus, and they are so mean to me!
Oh, sorry if that offended you.
Anyway, as for the football, I honestly don't think we'll have any problem moving the ball on your precious defense. You can keep throwing up all this nonsense about what all we lost, but you forget we have one of the best offensive minds in the nation, and he's been recruiting players for his system for years now. Remember how good Sammy was as a freshman? It happens.
Sorry if that was too much projection for you.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 9:11 PM
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I'm no expert on UGA football. Maybe you could help me answer that question if you could tell me who UGA added to their team to improve on their 94th ranked passing defense (by yards allowed per attempt).
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If you've been following the narrative
Aug 14, 2014, 9:17 PM
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then undoubtedly you know that ONLY Clemson can be affected by players leaving and ONLY Georgia can have players improve in the offseason. By all UGA accounts, there's no way they should lose a game this season.
It's all quite hilarious given they couldn't even beat Vandy last season.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 9:21 PM
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#1, they added Jeremy Pruitt. He has a nice Pedigree for keeping defenses solid everywhere he has been. Let's face the music here though, he has only been doing as guided under Saban and Jimbo. Interesting to see how he handles a sub-par Defense and builds it on his own.
#2, they think they rid themselves of some bad apples on the Defensive side. Bailey, Mayes and Drew are very solid on that D line. If they can get some decent push, that makes Cole Stoudt have to perform under pressure on the road. It will also allow their DB's to not have to cover for 5-8 seconds, making their life alot easier with our size and speed on the perimeter.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 9:41 PM
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UGA added the top JUCO DB... Kid name Fenteng. 4.45 and good size.
T Terry... SC Mr football 2 years ago.. Redshirted last year with an injury. Excellent football player.
Also, a guy who ended up starting RB a lot of last season due to injuries is now looking to start at CB. Excellent football player with great ball skills.
If you look at our 2 OLBs, you would be hard pressed to find a tandem that is better yet they are being pushed by a true freshman who was a 5* recruit last year. A lot of buzz about him. UGA already return solid D line from last year and very good ILBs
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 9:50 PM
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Tramell Terry? The guy who showed up as a receiver then moved to safety. He is a starting corner now?
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 9:54 PM
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Yes, the top HS player in SC two years ago. Pruitt brought him over to defense.
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Riddle me this...
Aug 14, 2014, 10:12 PM
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Your main point today has been to bring up why you think Georgia's defense will be much better and how Clemson should be expected to slow down on offense given the loss of so much production.
Is it, however, reasonable to also consider that given you have a new coordinator installing a new system your defense might be somewhat suspect in the first game of the season?
Is it also reasonable to consider that Chad Morris is an offensive genius, and that he has been recruiting players to fit his system for years now, so Clemson's offense could possibly be more effective even if not as explosive on single plays?
Is it also reasonable to consider that we are not the Clemson Tigers from a decade ago, and that we have made a habit in the last several seasons of beating teams that are favored over us?
Is it also reasonable that we literally return what could be the most talented and deepest defensive line in the nation (even with suspensions in the first game), so we might just give your new quarterback fits?
Is it also reasonable to suggest that heck, we might just be the better team, and we might just prove it?
Reasonable?
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Re: Riddle me this...
Aug 30, 2023, 10:09 PM
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Lot's of "what-if's" surround this game...That is why it is beyond intriguing!!! Good stuff people!!
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Re: Riddle me this...
Aug 14, 2014, 10:41 PM
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"Is it, however, reasonable to also consider that given you have a new coordinator installing a new system your defense might be somewhat suspect in the first game of the season?"
The defense is certainly a question. With that said, there is a lot of talent on the defense. They also will have a number of weeks to game plan which is a bonus when playing against a less traditional offense. It is reasonable to think that given the depth and talent and a less complicated defense from a play calling standpoint, that UGA could well be a better defense this year.
"Is it also reasonable to consider that Chad Morris is an offensive genius, and that he has been recruiting players to fit his system for years now, so Clemson's offense could possibly be more effective even if not as explosive on single plays?"
If Morris was a genius, FSU would not have embarrassed y'all last year and we would not have to listen to the Gamecock fans drone about beating you for half a decade. He is good, but so is Bobo. UGA has not had issues on offense in a long time by and large.
"Is it also reasonable to consider that we are not the Clemson Tigers from a decade ago, and that we have made a habit in the last several seasons of beating teams that are favored over us?"
Yet UGA is favored for a reason. I am sure you know more than the gamblers, but that won't change the line. And for every game you won in an upset, there is a huge game where you failed miserably.
"Is it also reasonable that we literally return what could be the most talented and deepest defensive line in the nation (even with suspensions in the first game), so we might just give your new quarterback fits?" I think we expect that... I also watched Gurley run for 122 yards and 2 TDs against Alabama as a Freshman against one of the best defenses in the history of college football.
"Is it also reasonable to suggest that heck, we might just be the better team, and we might just prove it?"
You can assume it and you may well be right.
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Re: WR depth will prove to difficult for UGA's....
Aug 14, 2014, 11:46 PM
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Swann is still picking Sammy's shoulder pad shavings out of his lips.
I wonder if he understands how much bigger Mike Williams is than Sammy ?
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Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 10:36 PM
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You just lost Shaq Wiggins who was an 8 game starter and led
the team in interceptions (2) and had 19 tackles. I don't
think he will be very effective. Pretty big loss. Probably
the best person you had in the secondary.
Tray Matthews started six games and played in 8, had 36
tackles and one interception
Harvey-Clemons who was the third-leading tackler is gone.
Those are three guys that were important to your secondary
who are not there to stop the offense. So the question to
you is "really, who is there to cover our receivers?"
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 10:52 PM
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You just lost Shaq Wiggins who was an 8 game starter and led
the team in interceptions (2) and had 19 tackles. I don't
think he will be very effective. Pretty big loss. Probably
the best person you had in the secondary.
Tray Matthews started six games and played in 8, had 36
tackles and one interception
Harvey-Clemons who was the third-leading tackler is gone.
Those are three guys that were important to your secondary
who are not there to stop the offense. So the question to
you is "really, who is there to cover our receivers?"
Wiggins was young, but a good player. He will be missed, but he was out of position a lot and that is why he and Pruitt butted heads and why he left.
Most UGA people will tell you that a Trey Matthews was over rated... He wanted the big hit more than doing his job every play. He was also a cancer on the team. He is not going to be missed.
Harvey Clemmons was an excellent player. Tall, but could move well. He will be missed, but is far from irreplaceable.
As I discussed earlier, there are quite few highly recruited players fighting for those spots now. You have to know that UGA recruits well. Frankly, I think most of you will be surprised at the speed, athleticism and overall talent level on defense for UGA.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 11:01 PM
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Did Stipe send you here ?
When careers end its always saddening , but none sadder than a backup contributor trying to branch out to new successes , while pitifully failing.
Jason Alexander , Todd Bridges , Slash and Peter Buck.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 11:20 PM
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# royalties.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 11:12 PM
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Is there a lead on who might be in the lead for those
positions. I would actually disagree and say that Matthews will be missed with 36 tackles. He might have been trying
to get on the highlight reel, but no doubt that he was a competitor.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 11:26 PM
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> Is there a lead on who might be in the lead for those
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> positions. I would actually disagree and say that
> Matthews will be missed with 36 tackles. He might
> have been trying
> to get on the highlight reel, but no doubt that he
> was a competitor.
Good tackler, not a good coverer...
I think we will rotate DBS ... swann and fenteng are ones I think will start back there. I think Swann will end up at FS as the starter. That is a good spot for him.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 14, 2014, 11:30 PM
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#passthebuck
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Re: Honest Answer...
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I guess we shall see what they are able to do against a high
tempo offense. Swann seems good. He is the guy that got
absolutely demolished by Sammy last year. He only had
3 tackles against us too.
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Re: Honest Answer...
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> Is there a lead on who might be in the lead for those
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> positions. I would actually disagree and say that
> Matthews will be missed with 36 tackles. He might
> have been trying
> to get on the highlight reel, but no doubt that he
> was a competitor.
At the end of the year our starters were:
Mauger and Moore (both started 7 games at safety) and Swann/Wiggins at CB. When in Nickle, Clemmons was 5th DB.
So for base defense, replacing 1 starter and 2 in Nickle.
Top JUCO DB- Shattle Fenteng is likely starter at CB opposite Swann, but have heard multiple other DBs have been competing as well (Dawson, Bowman, R. Johnson, etc).
At "star" or the NB position, JJ Green locked that up in the spring with Malkom Parrish seemingly his top backup there.
Other guys competing at safety, T. Terry, Reggie Wilkerson, D. Sanders, Aaron Johnson (can also play CB).
We actually have a lot of good options in the secondary and a good bit of returning players combined with some young guys that will compete for time as well. Secondary depth and talent is perfectly fine...just need some solid coaching.
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Re: Honest Answer...
Aug 15, 2014, 4:17 PM
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That's great. But that sounds like there are going to holes
due to lack of experience. Not saying you wont be good, but
the experienced guys, specifically Swann, had trouble last
year covering us. I think that we bring a more experienced
WR corps than you DB corps and have a good mix of success
passing and rushing with really good depth at RB. I could
be wrong, but this is how I think it may play out.
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So what you're actually saying is
Aug 14, 2014, 10:59 PM
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Y'all have no clue where the ball is going this year.
Hotrod was basically our only RB last year, with all the injuries and RSs.
This year we have a stable of studs at the skill positions and our secondary will be much improved.
Good luck mutts, you're going to need it!
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Re: So what you're actually saying is
Aug 14, 2014, 11:03 PM
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> Y'all have no clue where the ball is going this
> year.
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> Hotrod was basically our only RB last year, with all
> the injuries and RSs.
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> This year we have a stable of studs at the skill
> positions and our secondary will be much improved.
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> Good luck mutts, you're going to need it!
There are only so many places the ball can go and I am pretty sure we have seen it on film. Remember Pruitt game planned pretty well against y'all last year. Did you see that game?
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I remember us shooting ourselves in the
Aug 14, 2014, 11:08 PM
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foot a lot in that game. To the point it got out of hand and again, we did not have the complete TEAM that we will field this year.
New DC game one dummkopf.
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Re: So what you're actually saying is
Aug 14, 2014, 11:11 PM
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Still laughing at pup fans comparing their talent to FSU... Delusional much?
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Re: So what you're actually saying is
Aug 14, 2014, 11:22 PM
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Did FSU out talent Clemson?
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Re: So what you're actually saying is
Aug 15, 2014, 1:01 PM
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yes. yes they did. along with us turning the ball over.
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