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So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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are we still going to blame DJ for hindering their development, or just go with the old standby of having a new offensive coordinator who is still installing his system?
This assumes that our WR group is relatively healthy. If they aren’t, then obviously injuries will be the go-to.
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You could be the DH on the baseball team***
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Baseball is boring, so no thanks.***
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Re: Baseball is boring, so no thanks.***
Apr 16, 2023, 8:22 PM
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Yeah but Clemson baseball is successful and Clemson basketball isn't. So there is that. Maybe you just need to switch sports and you won't be so angry all the time.
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I’m not angry about basketball.
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Apr 16, 2023, 8:52 PM
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I am proud of the great year we just had.
The angry ones are those who act like we are horrible and Brownell is horrible and think we should be an NCAA Tournament team every year even though we don’t provide the support necessary to expect that.
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Re: I’m not angry about basketball.
Apr 16, 2023, 9:01 PM
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What support do we need?
Come on, finally clarify the exact areas of a basketball program that you need to add fund towards for the expectation to be NCAAT every year? We just renovated our coliseum, it’s not like we had bad facilities before the Neff decision.
Also, don’t spend $40 million on a new facility when you could use $40 million to get an elite coach and actually change things. The coach matters for results.
I’m done, I feel like it’s January.
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I guess you’re ignoring me so won’t see but I’m not expecting
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To make the NCAAT every year but more than 3 out of 13 would be nice. And not losing as a one seed at home in the nit would be a breath of fresh air. That’s how the year you’re so proud of ended. You are what’s wrong with athletics. Satisfied with mediocrity and a barrier to progress. Congrats!
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Re: I’m not angry about basketball.
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Yea, you don’t sound the least bit angry or bitter.
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Yup. She doesn't see the irony in her troll.***
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$10.5 million a year salary and no top 10 the last two years.
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No excuses.
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So, so jelly. LOL.
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As for the Bradster, not horrible but mediocre at best. There isn’t another P5 school in the country that would hire him, and certainly not for the amount that he is currently stealing from Clemson annually by fraudulently claiming to be a coach.
Is mediocre the best Clemson should hope for in a basketball coach? You and your irrational emotional cult say yes, but it seems as if most on here disagree.
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Re: $10.5 million a year salary and no top 10 the last two years.
Apr 16, 2023, 10:05 PM
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So is basketball your main sport? I find it possible that at least 1 person out of all the true Clemson fans could care more about basketball than football. It’s a major sport.
If so, it shows all of your beliefs about Clemson as a program. You prefer the administration put less towards football, and give basketball its funding to be a major competitor. You have on more than one occasion covered up Brad’s issues with Dabo’s own disappointing recent seasons with all the money he gets.
No one here ever expected to make the NCAAT every single year. But more than 3 every 15 years with what we have is extremely possible.
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This. Absolutely.
Apr 17, 2023, 7:47 PM
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But don't expect the myopic suck-up to admit to it.
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GREAT YEAR?!? BAHAHHAAHA! Are you special or just that...
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delusional? We lost in the first round of the NIT to Morehouse State! You can't be THAT stupid....
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Re: I’m not angry about basketball.
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If you're only looking at the ACC portion of our schedule it was a good year, not great. We definitely lucked out in not getting the tougher teams twice. When you throw in the non conference and post season it was definitely not a great year. Not even good. Very average which is Brownell's MO.
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We won 23 games.
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That’s a great year.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Tell em coot
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Bold words from someone who joined TNet after me and posts less than me.
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Coot.
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Re: Bold words from someone who joined TNet after me and posts less than me.
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Please post as little as I do. You would be doing everyone a favor. Coot
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Re: Bold words from someone who joined TNet after me and posts less than me.
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~JKB
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Why don't you watch oregon state a lil this year. That will answer that question.
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I plan to.
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I’m pulling for DJ to have a great year. He’s a good guy who works hard, and he represented our program with class.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Dabo invited Clemson fans to be in Clemson for spring game and baseball-Can you send a link of the Dabo or Neff presser where they invite Clemson fans to come celebrate this years basketball team making the NCAA tourney?
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Huh?
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What does this have to do with my post?
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Re: Huh?
Apr 16, 2023, 8:58 PM
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He is making fun of the fact that there is no celebration to be found in the men's BB program. HTH
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Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
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And in terms of performance relative to expectations and investment, our football program doesn’t have much to celebrate recently. Two straight years of underachieving.
Now, back to our wide receivers. Do you feel good about this WR group? Honestly.
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
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Our baseball RPI is significantly higher than our basketball team’s was this season. So I rate your statement untrue.
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Yeah but what about all the fans, facilities, and money going into baseball?***
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
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I feel great about our WRs. In 2015 we had an injury prone Peake, Ray Ray, Artavis and freshman Renfrow. I think comparatively, this year has more NFL talent than that year and we were an onside kick away from winning the natty. QB could be close to equal and running game/defense may be better than that year. To focus solely on WR is ignorant of what we've done in the past. Deion cain was suspended for the playoffs and we still managed to move the ball on elite teams.
Maybe you just dont know that much about Clemson football.
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You feel great about our WRs?
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Seriously?
I honestly don’t see how anyone could feel that way after what we’ve seen from them recently.
It’s telling that you had to go back 8 years to provide a reason why people should share your optimism.
You sound like a homer.
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Re: You feel great about our WRs?
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It isn't that I had to go back that far, it's an example of being elite without an elite WR room. The only starting WR in the NFL on that playoff team is a walk on. Not hard to grasp. It does seem that the only negative you're grasping at is 1 position group on the team. You want us to lose so badly it's sad.
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Link to me wanting us to lose?
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You’ve gone mad.
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
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Not to interrupt the more than just campaign against JK, but I have to call foul on several of your statements here. I'm not sure of anyone that has said they feel great about this years WR's. I would take that group all day over this one. Ray Ray and Renfrow are still in the NFL. Peake and Scott were there for a few years. We'll see how Williams turns out but right now I wouldn't necessarily say you could project him as a long term NFL guy.
And to say that Cade may be better than DW was that year. That is one hell-u-va bold statement. RB room is better but I definitely would wait and see before we say this years Def is better. I couldn't disagree with you more on the totality of that statement but we shall see.
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
Apr 17, 2023, 6:41 AM
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I said QB could be close to equal
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
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I'll sign up for that right now. Close to DW4 that year would be outstanding. I think Cade is capable but we don't have near enough to go on right now to suggest that is likely. That would be best case scenaio this year for Cade and the WR's don't seem to compare to that years group. Not saying it won't happen. My fingers are certainly crossed but not gonna hold my breath.
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Re: Our basketball program had a much better year than our baseball team currently is.
Apr 17, 2023, 12:17 AM
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You can’t just keep doing this. It is so clear that basketball did not have a “much better” year. We’re honestly having a pretty similar season. The RPI is in the same range of where basketball was mid season.
But it’s unnecessary to claim “much better”. If you lose 1st round NIT at home to Morehead St, you can’t say much better unless the baseball team loses the rest of their games.
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So you think our baseball team will finish third in the ACC this year?***
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Re: So you think our baseball team will finish third in the ACC this year?***
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ACC basketball is much less difficult than ACC baseball. At least this year.
Take a second to look at the RPI for college baseball and see how many ACC teams you see right near the top. Not counting our out of conference opponents. Our SOS for basketball wasn’t even close to baseball.
That said, no I don’t. But I think we’ll finish better than basketball. Which is truly what we care about. Not the ###* ACC who we’re going to end up leaving soon anyways.
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Re: So you think our baseball team will finish third in the ACC this year?***
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Sorry Judge, a third place finish in the ACC is not a 'Great' year. Not when you lost to last place Louisville. Not when you don't make the NCAA Tournament. Not when you lose to Morehead St. in the first round of the NIT. It's all about expectations, and once again Brad didn't fill any.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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I am going to blame the wide receivers. I have not seen an Alpha WR in several years. I thought Ross and Ngata were going to be, but I was wrong. Wide receivers have to stay healthy and must develop confidence with the quarterback.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Aye man you just worry about Brownell next year. It’s your as* on the line since you are legitimately the ONLY Brad supporter left😂
I’m not jk I swear I don’t see anyone else ever say something positive about him.
And to your question, no if the receivers don’t have a good year, the reason will be apparent then. Who knows what the reason will be. Could be underperforming, injuries, new system. Why would any of us know the future?
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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What a loser
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I don’t think Grisham, Riley, or Dabo are losers.
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But they do need to figure out our underperforming WR unit.
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Stick to basketball…,***
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Stick to not posting.***
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 16, 2023, 8:59 PM
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Losers make excuses. Spring Games are a necessary evil where almost nothing can be learned especially if there are multiple players out. Let's give our guys a chance in September.
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What’s Brad’s excuse?***
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It’s hilarious that some of you get so triggered.
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It’s as if you can’t even think about the possibility of our WRs not having a good year.
Why is that so hard for you?
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Re: It’s hilarious that some of you get so triggered.
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Re: It’s hilarious that some of you get so triggered.
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It is Ok Judge because we were lining Briningstool and Sapp up in the slot and gashing this defense up the middle whenever we wanted. And don't hate on Riley because he is younger, better looking, and more competent at his job than Brownell.
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How did I “hate on” Riley?***
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Ever since he stole the show at little john and
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drew the biggest crowd of the season, it has been one series of micro-aggression after another. Do you really believe people on this forum have not taken notice of your behavior since Riley got here?
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LOL***
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Re: It’s hilarious that some of you get so triggered.
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Remember that time you and I had the back and forth about you being a pot stirring troll? You adamantly denied being a troll or pot stirrer so I had to go and fine a meme to show you how much of a troll you are. Since you're insistent on trolling today, heres another shot of you. Enjoy, Troll.
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No, I honestly don’t remember you.***
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Re: No, I honestly don’t remember you.***
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Fair enough. Though I'll take you not remembering me over being in your shoes where the vast majority would love to forget you. I do notice you don't even deny the troll part anymore. Glad to have helped you become self aware, now if one of us could convince you we don't need "fans" like you we'd all be happier.
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Of course I’m not a troll.
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I’m a Clemson alum and have been posting on TNet for 20 years.
Declaring that I’m not a troll when someone calls me one isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. These people are also the ones who regularly declare what I think and what I believe on a regular basis, despite my statements to the contrary.
No point arguing with people like that.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Apr 16, 2023, 9:37 PM
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are we still going to blame DJ for hindering their development, or just go with the old standby of having a new offensive coordinator who is still installing his system?
This assumes that our WR group is relatively healthy. If they aren’t, then obviously injuries will be the go-to.
Well, this Tiger fan will tell it like it is. Our receivers are awful at this point. OL is a work in progress again. Cade WILL BE better than DJ. LR will be better than street. This is not a great team or playoff team by any stretch in my mind but at least we will spread the field and complete some balls to the the TE's and backs down the middle of the field.
I get where your going. All of DJ's problems were not on DJ. Agreed. But his lack of accuracy took away half the field and he never got to his second progression. If the receivers are bad we will just say they are bad. If Cade is off, we will say he needs work. I'm not expecting a miracle with the WR's we have but we should expect some improvement. Time to let go of DJ. He's gone and the team will move on.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 4:26 PM
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are we still going to blame DJ for hindering their development, or just go with the old standby of having a new offensive coordinator who is still installing his system?
This assumes that our WR group is relatively healthy. If they aren’t, then obviously injuries will be the go-to. Well, this Tiger fan will tell it like it is. Our receivers are awful at this point. OL is a work in progress again. Cade WILL BE better than DJ. LR will be better than street. This is not a great team or playoff team by any stretch in my mind but at least we will spread the field and complete some balls to the the TE's and backs down the middle of the field. I get where your going. All of DJ's problems were not on DJ. Agreed. But his lack of accuracy took away half the field and he never got to his second progression. If the receivers are bad we will just say they are bad. If Cade is off, we will say he needs work. I'm not expecting a miracle with the WR's we have but we should expect some improvement. Time to let go of DJ. He's gone and the team will move on.
Didn't know Lincoln Riley was the OC?..
Thought Garrett was?...
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 16, 2023, 10:12 PM
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Hahaha just gave you a thumbs up on the other one. Who blamed DJ for our receivers development? All the years they played football I am sure they never were taught to catch balls out of their reach or behind them. Development was and is on Grisham. It bothers me that when PJ was hurt and we lost, then injuries explained our losses. Yet when we have the majority of our WRs injured then it cannot be used as an excuse. Apply same logic to Brownball and be intelligent about it and people can have a healthy dialogue with you.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 16, 2023, 10:25 PM
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ClemsonOhioTiger
To answer your question, I did earlier.
“No, DJ was such a bust he actually stalled the development of each receiver he played with.
I’ve said it before, put Collins, Ngata, or whoever else with CJ Stroud or top QB, they’re going to be incredibly better. It’s the QB. There were more missed throws and sacks taken than there were drops and missed routes.
Need to start getting guys like Deon Cain and Ray Ray again. Weren’t the most elite ever at Clemson, but were greatly coached to use their instincts and speed. Something that none of our current guys have except for 1 or 2.”
This was a reply of mine earlier, and think it’s true.
After you asked who blamed DJ, I really lost track of what the hell you were saying.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 7:26 AM
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Sorry I have no qualms with you. I understand and agree with what you are saying. My comments was more a dig at how poorly DJ performed passing the ball. In what I am saying, I actually was kind of agreeing with the statement. I skipped all the back and forth with the OP because all he does is write ignorant stuff and my father taught me to never argue with a fool.
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When one of our best players is out with an injury or impacted by an injury
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Apr 16, 2023, 11:21 PM
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for an extended period of time, it’s understandable that it can explain the team’s performance not being 100%.
That’s not close to the issue with our WRs, because it can’t be argued that an injured receiver was one of our best players recently. In fact, we haven’t had an elite receiver on our team in terms of performance in a long time.
We have talented receivers, based on high school tape and recruiting rankings, but they don’t develop much at Clemson. That’s on Grisham, Streeter, and (gasp!) Dabo.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Apr 16, 2023, 10:46 PM
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I will blame Brad Brownell.
In all seriousness, what would it matter if the receivers don’t have a “good year” but we still are acc champs and make the playoffs?
I don’t care if the receivers get us 300 yards per game or if our backs do. Winning is what matters.
Losing to Morehead State at Littlejohn should also matter. Does it?
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It’s funny how triggered you got over this.
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Apr 16, 2023, 11:24 PM
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I merely asked a question, because I know some of you are already getting excuses ready in case you need them.
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Re: It’s funny how triggered you got over this.
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Apr 17, 2023, 11:08 PM
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If it seems to you that I am triggered then you have misinterpreted the tone of my written words. I was merely attempting to create a dialogue.
I am not the type of person to get excuses ready if something doesn’t go my way.
I used to be that type of person, but in 9th grade my English teacher deliberately placed a sign above my desk that read, “excuses only satisfy those who make them.”
I do not intentionally make excuses to this day. I know plenty of fans and posters who do. Be it football or basketball.
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DJ's been the low hanging fruit for ignorant fans for 2-3yrs
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Apr 17, 2023, 7:15 AM
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When convenient they'd blame injuries........as if injuries are what made this WR room have no talent.
DJ was NOT good, but Streeter and the WRs have been far worse than DJ over the last 2 years. Now that excuse #1 is at Oregon State & #2 is in a demoted analyst position at Georgia everyone finally sees the FINAL problem that needs to be solved to get Clemson back to CFP caliber.
There was not one single answer.........there were MULTIPLE problems and WR is the last remaining that needs fixed................Not sure it can be fixed this year or even next w/o a difference maker HS recruit or Transfer (and that's not happening)
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LOL
Apr 17, 2023, 7:52 AM
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LOL.***
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I blame BrownL***
Apr 17, 2023, 7:24 AM
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It's clear we lack talent at WR but you're right excuses...
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Apr 17, 2023, 7:41 AM
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abound. If it's not DJ, it's injury. I am sorry, but I am not convinced that a healthy Will Taylor is going to make us WRU again.
Also, Collins is so so and we've seen enough of him. Heck, we've NEVER seen Stelltato (spelling is probably off here, who knows). Spector is not good but we are forced to play him.
When we did see Randall, he's been alright but nothing like Dabo promised.
We got Turner and Williams and beyond that is a mystery. Well even Turner is a bit of a mystery. A few years ago, Williams would have been our third best WR, now is miles ahead of anyone else.
We whiffed on Ladson and Ngata.
The truth hurts but out of seven scholarship players (not counting the freshman), one is definitely WRU material, one might be and the rest definitely not. None of the freshman were top 50 WR recruits btw (let that sink in).
That group went from the strongest to worse and everyone points everywhere but the staff. Its hilarious yet sad to watch the pumpers trip over themselves to make excuses for Grisham.
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More blather
Apr 17, 2023, 7:52 AM
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LOL. Coot!***
Apr 17, 2023, 8:28 AM
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LOL
Apr 17, 2023, 5:10 PM
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At least you stayed under 200 words for this post LOL
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You and others here just can’t handle the truth if it’s not glowing praise for football.***
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Irony ?
Apr 17, 2023, 5:10 PM
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LOL
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Re: It's clear we lack talent at WR but you're right excuses...
Apr 17, 2023, 7:58 AM
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I am with the firing of Grisham. Taylor was brought in an athlete if I remember correctly. I think he played QB in high school and nobody thought he was going to be a great receiver coming into college. Ladson and Ngata did not live up to the potential or were not coached by Grisham or Dabo to become what they felt they would be. Yet Ngata will probably be drafted. Collins started to have flashes of becoming a solid receiver, but injuries got him last year. Same with Randall. Yes I heard the hype, but I have not saw it yet. Stellato has had the weakest knees in the history of WRs at Clemson. Really bad luck and will probably never amount to much. The new WRs, we will have to wait and see. As far as evaluating WRs, the ones we got besides Turner, had very impressive offers from other schools, so they must have saw that same ability. Like I stated, if we fail to produce at WR this year then Grisham should be gone. No different than demanding results from Brownell, except I don't want average for 13 years.
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Tyler Grisham was the second coach on the field for the Spring Game
Apr 17, 2023, 8:02 AM
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he left the locker room so much earlier than the players and was by himself walking on the field
he also didn't come by the fans or show any glimpses of personable coach
i don't think he brings the energy. i don't think recruits respect him. i think he was a questionable replacement for Jeff Scott
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 8:20 AM
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Morehead State says hello
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Really? This is what you're left with?***
Apr 17, 2023, 8:23 AM
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Apr 17, 2023, 10:12 AM
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In all seriousness, if our receivers still continue to have a mediocre to bad season, it'll just reaffirm to me that Grisham needs to go. I want Grisham to succeed as a coach but at some point there can only be so many excuses. This season is his last chance for me to prove he can mold some of these guys to their full potential.
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yeah, its talent thats the problem. He can coach guys up
Apr 17, 2023, 10:23 AM
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until the cows come home but the ability is what the ability is. I don't wanna dog our WR corp too much though, they're good players that play hard but no NFL type playmakers. Ohio State has like 3 or 4. We couldn't get one of those guys at Clemson? Recruiting that position should be a no-brainer at Clemson when we're still pulling in top tier talent at QB. I think we're on our way with Riley being here but it would be great to see some guys get some YAC every once in a while. Seems like we have to eek out positive yardage on every play. Still don't see that effortless scheme that just creates yards. And i assume its b/c of talent at WR.
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 10:15 AM
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are we still going to blame DJ for hindering their development, or just go with the old standby of having a new offensive coordinator who is still installing his system?
This assumes that our WR group is relatively healthy. If they aren’t, then obviously injuries will be the go-to.
No JK, the appropriate spotlight will be on the position coach. Greenlighting who they recruit and develop is in his wheelhouse. It’s been suspect since Grisham took over as an inexperienced coach. After 4 years, it will be time to move on to a coach with a much better coaching resume.
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It sounds like some of you are making Grisham the scapegoat.
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Apr 17, 2023, 11:35 AM
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He's not the only one in charge of WR recruiting or coaching, but you know that.
Dabo has significant influence in who we sign and how they are coached/developed while at Clemson. He also hired Grisham to be his WR coach and now recruiting coordinator.
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You don't like Clemson, you like Brad's nutz***
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
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Apr 17, 2023, 10:30 AM
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Who is "we"?
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 12:41 PM
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But what if they do have a good year?
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Re: So if our receivers don’t have a good year this year
Apr 17, 2023, 5:58 PM
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I wonder if Graham said the same about our WR coach….
Graham Neff to me: Marc, I appreciate you being here. I want you to know we hear you+your audience regarding Brad (Brownell).
The L to Morehead was unacceptable. Popped the 🎈of our positive energy. “IF WE AREN’T IN THE TOURNEY NEXT SEASON, THERE WILL BE A CHANGE.”
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