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Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here...
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Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here...


Jul 28, 2021, 7:02 AM

I'm interested in getting a reasonable priced 9 mm semi-auto. Small enough to carry in cargo pants, but a large enough grip for my big hands. Really don't want to pay much more than $6-700. What do you suggest I look at?

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:31 AM

Sig P365 is small enough for pocket carry. If you want bigger I’d look at Glocks.

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:41 AM

I would not carry a Glock in a pocket as it has no safety which for me means holster cary

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:01 AM

Several good replies. I carry a Glock 42 or Walther CCP. THE CCP might fit your hand better since its a little larger. As far as no safety on the Glock (external ,pulling the trigger defeats two internal safeties. If you don't grab the trigger and pull it in your pocket its not a problem. Others mentioned also have no external safety.

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:08 AM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

Check out a Khar, several great models for pocket carry.
Small, sleek, slim, reliable. Does not jam….
Use +P hollow point ammo. Knock-down power like bigger guns.
A single stack hand full when you need it!

Love Glocks, not for pocket carry.

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Jul 28, 2021, 4:09 PM

I was going to mention the kahr but the slim handle on those might not be great for someone with big hands

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:30 PM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

I had a Kahr and that gun was TOTALLY UNRELIABLE. Jammed every 10 shot. Total POS. I will never waste money on another Kahr.

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I have a M&P EZ Shield and a Beretta Px4


Jul 28, 2021, 8:41 AM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

The Shield may be too big for your liking but it is a very easy gun with a palm safety for added protection from accidents. It also has a sissy reload clip, which I like.

The Beretta Storm compact may fit your hand better. It is a quality pistol. Made in Tennesee I believe.

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2nd here on the Sig. ******


Jul 28, 2021, 8:56 AM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]



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Glock 43 for 6 rounds or 48X if you want 10


Jul 28, 2021, 7:33 AM

also some after market mags for the 48X hold 15 rounds without extending past the grip.

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:33 AM

if you have big hands, that would lead me to believe that you may in fact NOT need to carry a loaded firearm in your cargo pants.

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:18 AM

In most big cities, always carry, or become a victim.
Better still, avoid big cities and just open carry a full sized pistol.
Or live in Clemson and don’t worry about it!

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:44 AM

Just go handle some. Some just fit certain hands better than others. Glock g19 feels great in my hands but is a touch big. Smaller Glocks feel top heavy. I have a s&W m&p compact if I am carrying.

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Jul 28, 2021, 9:04 AM

I second the Glock 19 ...... plus plenty of 9mm ammo available right now.

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Jul 28, 2021, 2:49 PM

Yep

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Jul 28, 2021, 4:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

I have the m&p 40c I don't like it. I don't shoot worth shitte with it

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:33 PM

A buddy got the 40 M&P compact. It kicks like a mule. The 9mm is much easier to shoot.

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:48 AM

Have a look at the Tarus G3C. It’s my daily carry. Awesome gun for the price. Can be found almost everywhere for about $299. And it comes with 3 magazines new in box. Also, the G2C can be found online for as low as 250 brand new. Don’t let the price fool you. This is an excellent gun. Read and watch hundreds of reviews on it. I love my G3C. Shoots great. Never had a jam. Probably have about 600-700 rounds through it so far. It’s also customizable for those who like to get tactical. I also found a very nice ITWB holster on Amazon that is laser cut specifically for that gun for about $30.

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Jul 28, 2021, 7:54 AM

Smith & Wesson mp shield $400.00 range
Very nice gun for the money

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:08 AM

The shield is a great gun too. However the G3C comes with extra magazine and is a double stack meaning more capacity. Also has a nice thumb safety. Some people like thumb safetys some don’t. I find it very useful to have. But I usually don’t engage it when I carry.

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Jul 28, 2021, 3:01 PM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

That’s what my dad carries and he loves it! I think my sister carries that too. She’s retired Air Force intel.

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:03 AM

Smith & Wesson Bodyguard 380
Unit cost: $419 MSRP
Action: Short recoil
Barrel length: 2.75 in (7.0 cm)
Manufacturer: Smith & Wesson
Length: 5.25 in (13.3 cm)
Sights: Fixed open sights, Laser sight
Height: approximately 4.3 inches

always carried as a back-up

A HECKLER KOCH VP9SK pistol is currently worth an average price of $781.87 new and $669.62 used .
Chambered in 9mm, The VP9 features a striker fired design measuring 7.34-inches in length and 5.41-inches in height with a 4.09-in barrel. Tipping scales at 25.56-ounces, the VP9 can pack 15 rounds of ammunition in its magazine, offering plenty of rounds for plinking or concealed carry use

You want a dog that bites not just bark

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I have a Glock 17 and a 19


Jul 28, 2021, 8:18 AM

Highly recommend both

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Jul 28, 2021, 3:02 PM

I gave my dad the book Glock for Christmas a few years ago. It’s a pretty amazing story. Have you read it?

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Someone gave it to me too but I haven't read it yet***


Jul 28, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Jul 28, 2021, 8:24 AM

I would go to a range that allows you to shoot their range guns , I was dead set on a 365 for example
Until I got my hands on the new M&P shield plus… gonna feel diff for everybody

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I have a Sig and Glock


Jul 28, 2021, 9:17 AM

Glock 43X
Sig P229

Sig is a little heavy for pocket carry because it is all metal.

I would recommend both for their size.

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Jul 28, 2021, 9:24 AM

I use Smith & Wesson pistols. Exclusively. A friend recently bought an EZ in 9mm for carrying and loves it.

My personal favorite hasn’t been produced in a very long time…model 908.

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I have a S&W model 669...12+1, alloy frame, SSt. slide, 3.5


Jul 29, 2021, 1:48 PM

barrel, 26 oz, ambi safety/decock.... one of the earlier "compacts" from the late '80s. (4) Dbl.stack stainless mags w/finger flare.

50 round box...(4) 12-round mags, 1 in the chamber, 1 in my watch pocket( just in case)...

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Jul 28, 2021, 9:43 AM

P365 or P365XL if you're wanting something slightly larger. Can look at Springfield Hellcat or the Shield Plus.

All solid options.

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Jul 28, 2021, 2:52 PM

I’d second both the Sig and the SA. Both solid choices.

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Jul 28, 2021, 9:50 AM

S&W 500 Mag and 50 cal. desert eagle are a great fit for big hands, but not for the pocket! LOL!

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Jul 28, 2021, 3:06 PM

Anytime I see the mention of a desert eagle my brain immediately goes to that scene in lock Stock and two smoking barrels when he pulls out that huge desert eagle when the crackheads try and stick him up in the diner.

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point five oh***


Jul 28, 2021, 5:26 PM



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Jul 28, 2021, 4:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Since there seem to be a lot of firearms experts here... ]

Just don't buy cheap ammo for it. Shot one with a buddy one day and it wouldn't even cycle the gun with the cheap stuff he had.

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Jul 28, 2021, 10:33 AM

I wish I had a big Glock.

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Springfield XDE


Jul 28, 2021, 3:00 PM

It has a double action hammer, comes with 3 Magazines, one of which is a 9 round that extends the grip. Very slim gun, but comfortable in the hand.

Got mine new for about $550 a few years ago.

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Glock Model 19***


Jul 28, 2021, 3:01 PM



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Not a gun expert, here, but


Jul 28, 2021, 3:16 PM

My dad passed and left his collection to me....about 40 pistols (Taurus, S&W, Kimber, Springfield, etc.) and rifles/shotguns (Marlin, Remington, Davide Pedersoli, etc.)...lots of ammo of many calibers...and even reloading equipment and supplies. Loved 9mm/.45s...hunted some...and shot competitively for years.

See what happens when another's hobby lands in your lap? Anyone want a squirt gun? :)

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You can get a feel for value on gunbroker.com or a like site


Jul 28, 2021, 6:42 PM

to start. Can sell them there I think. If you know value you can take them to a gun show and sell as well.

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Is the Marlin an 1895 lever...? Asking for me. ;~)***


Jul 29, 2021, 10:45 PM [ in reply to Not a gun expert, here, but ]



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Springfield Hellcat


Jul 28, 2021, 3:30 PM

Just picked one up Sunday. Had to order online and took a while because ones with safety’s are not in greatest supply.

https://www.scheels.com/p/springfield-armory-hellcat-micro-compact-osp-9mm-pistol-with-manual-safety/70639793473.html


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Jul 28, 2021, 10:36 PM

Pretty gun. How’s it shoot?

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For walking around I like my old S&W Model 49. Has the


Jul 28, 2021, 5:58 PM

hammer shroud where the hammer is jut barely proud of the shroud throughout it's travel path. Makes it awesome for in and out of the pocket without catching on anything.

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Jul 29, 2021, 2:12 PM

Great timing on this subject. My wife and I are doing the CWP class today!

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Jul 29, 2021, 2:48 PM

I have a ruger 9mm, LCS9 that I am actually in the market to sell. I am a bigger guy and have large hands and have no problem holding it with my extended clip and pinky grip. Shoot me a message if you are interested and we can talk price. I can guarantee it won't break the bank.

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Jul 29, 2021, 2:50 PM

*correction* LC9s

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Jul 29, 2021, 3:00 PM

I highly recommend the Bersa Thunder 9.
Extremely reliable, great safety, 14 round mag double-stack. Easy to carry canceled.

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You were right longtallsam® ,


Jul 29, 2021, 3:11 PM

--- there seems to be a lot of "experts" here.
This thread is fun and sometimes funny reading.

I am not an expert but have carried a gun most days for the last 50 years.
If you carry for added courage, most guns will do.
If you carry a gun as a tool, better is to have it handy, not in a pocket.
Find a comfy holster that fits your needs. There are many types.
These days I use a minimalist inside the waistband one.

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Jul 29, 2021, 3:33 PM

Can a smaller gun like a .380 meet your needs for a pocket gun? Some with plastic are very light these days. With something like Hornady CD you will be ahead of the game most play.
https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/handgun/380-auto-90-gr-ftx-critical-defense#!/

Many, many "real Hollywood heroes" have carried a PPK as well as real cops all over the globe. This is a well tested gun since 1935 and still being made because it works. It is not as light as some as the newer ones as it is now in stainless steel, a gun owners dream. It keeps increasing in value and will never wear out. It is accurate.



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Even Fiona carried one -



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That's the wife's... PPK/S version... SWEET.***


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Re: You were right longtallsam® ,


Jul 29, 2021, 3:57 PM [ in reply to You were right longtallsam® , ]

There is one pistol that meets the term effective "pocket gun".
It is the NAA 22 Magnum.



Most CCW folks start out OK but soon are leaving their clunky gun behind for a quick trip to the store.
This one can be kept with your car keys so easy to pocket, and it is a LOT better than nothing.

Real men are chuckling as they read this.
If going to a gun fight, I would take one of my short barrel shot guns with 00.
No strike that, I would skedaddle the opposite direction from a gun fight as I am sane.

99.9% of "gun fights" since the OK Corral that civilians have been in, only a couple rounds are fired. That indicates for most of us, many bullets are not needed. My short barrel 5 shot .38 S&W would win any encounter, if I hit the target.

The gun above will also win. A .22 mag fired from this gun is extremely loud, scary loud.
A Hornady 22 WMR 45 gr FTX will penetrate and expand.
If hit by one, you will loose interest in the fight and be calling for your Mama.


Of course if in a gun fight, one would want the baddest gun available, but it will be of no use if it is at home.

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