Re: Serious question: If Clemson WERE extended an invitation to

I do not want to join the sec. I enjoy the rivalries that we have had for the past 70 years or so in the ACC. That being said, you cannot overlook the financial portion. As many people have pointed out, if we don't get the TV money, we'll fall behind in the material aspect of things. We have lost prospects to the idea of playing in the sec vs acc. Whatever happens, I'm a Clemson fan. But you won't hear me chanting sec, either.

One thing I don't get. If you have a conference with 20+ teams, how does that make the overall conference better. You play 12 games, 3-4 being cupcakes or ooc. Under current standards, you play 8 conference games. How is that going to prove who the best is in the conference, when you don't play 10-12 of the other teams. You aren't going to see most teams, except every 10 years. It seems to me, having the current setup, where you play your rivals every 2-3 years, throw in the games across conference, is much better. Are we going to have a playoff in conference, then a playoff cross conference? Bah. Too much BS. Too bad we can't separate football conference from the other sports.

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Jul 9, 2022, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Re: One thing for sure...we may have to join the SEC out of ]

again." The ACC was "birthed" out of the old Southern Conference, which at times contained 23 teams. Quite a few of those teams would also later become members of the new SEC. What was strange back in those old Southern Conference mega days was that there were not that many conference games played each season. Not only that, not all members played the same number of conference games, either.

Take the 1930 season as an example. Southern Conference Champion for 1930 was Alabama, who played 8 conference games, and won them all. Tulane was also undefeated in conference play, but they only played 5 conference games. 5 games in conference was the minimum, but there were various teams that played 5, 6, or 7. Alabama and North Carolina were the only two teams to play 8 games in conference.

Clemson finished 9th of the 23 teams, having played only 5 conference games.

I suspect that one aspect of the advent of these "supersized" conferences will be an almost immediate expansion of the Playoffs, since, as you said, you can wind up theoretically with several undefeated teams within a conference that have not played each other during the season.