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Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 6:38 PM
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That Brad won't be back. Here was another one. That is two known college basketball writers from espn and the Athletic correspondence, and now this tweet from a guy who really follows the ACC. Seems like a word from Clemson is that's it time.
Might be on Clemson's end, and maybe Brad Brownell might not want to come back:
https://twitter.com/ACContent__/status/1497285212715237381?s=20&t=HB5I-yM3JreHecpp64ymEw
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 6:39 PM
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And it's more like possibility, but that is more than in the past since 2017.
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What are the odds?
Feb 25, 2022, 6:44 PM
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50/50 maybe?
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Re: What are the odds?
Feb 25, 2022, 6:51 PM
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Yeah, I think 50/50 is about right.
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Re: What are the odds?
Feb 26, 2022, 3:55 AM
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I believe that Neff should let Brownell go, and send a message that as long as he is the Athletic Director over all of Clemson sports, that mediocre Head Coaching will no longer be a part of Clemson sports, especially with the Clemson 3 major sports as Football, Basketball, and Baseball. That winning season are a must with all Clemson sports, but the mediocre leash will be very short with FB, B Ball, and Baseball. That would be Nuff said by Neff!!!
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Re: What are the odds?
Feb 26, 2022, 6:14 AM
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I believe that Neff should let Brownell go, and send a message that as long as he is the Athletic Director over all of Clemson sports, that mediocre Head Coaching will no longer be a part of Clemson sports, especially with the Clemson 3 major sports as Football, Basketball, and Baseball. That winning season are a must with all Clemson sports, but the mediocre leash will be very short with FB, B Ball, and Baseball. That would be Nuff said by Neff!!! ">
Mediocre coaching or mediocre support? Hire another cheap with no demands for facilities or staff. Will either fail miserably, get caught cheating or have a couple good years then bolt to a better gig. Rinse and repeat
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 6:45 PM
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If CBB reads Tnet, I’m sure he doesn’t want to come back. Be careful what you wish for. The next BB coach may be even worse.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 6:59 PM
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I get tired of reading that. You don't find out until you at least try. Could be that Clemson and Neff are going through second hand markets from coaching agents to see if there are some disgruntled coaching who are trying to get out where they are and might be interested.
Let's say Clemson had a contact who is at more of a basketball school and maybe doing a good job, but fans are still complaining. Let's say that coach goes to the NCAAT more than Brad. Let's say over 65 percent of time, even if he doesn't go far a lot, maybe just one past the first round. That is better than Brad?
Or it might be a hot mid major coach like a McMahon or Medved.
It's all speculation at this point.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 7:16 PM
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A good example is Mike White at Florida. Florida fans want him fired because he is not Billy Donovan, but he is a good coach and goes to NCAAT just about every season. Let's say he wants to get out?
Now, I'm not saying Mike White is the guy and is interested, but that is an example of a type of coach that could be interested who might not be happy where he is.
Remember there were rumors that Will Wade's agent was contacted by second hand markets from DRad to draw any interest. The rumors were that Will Wade then at VCU was not interested in the job, but using that as a bargin chip when negotiating with LSU. This was before the FBI wire tap investigations on Wade, so it worked out that he was not interested if he was contacted.
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What you are forgetting is
Feb 25, 2022, 7:33 PM
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This is Clemson. There is no basketball history. The lunatic fringe thinks Clemson is a hot job. It is not a hot job. Just look at the history. Just read TNet. Who in their right mind would want the Clemson job. It doesn't pay well enough to put up with all of the crap from the fans you have to deal with. You can't recruit one-and-dones because their going to join The Brotherhood or go somewhere with a basketball history. If CBB is let go, Clemson will hire an up-and-coming assistant who will bolt after his first taste of success. The only coach who has not done that is CBB. He has built a program. He has developed players. He has used the portal effectively. He has run a clean program. He has graduated players. He has put a competitive team on the floor. Most of the fans have given up, but this team has not given up. They showed remarkable grit against Wake Forest. That game was the core of CBB's program on display. They maybe losing. Luck may be against them. Injuries may have really hurt them. But they are going to continue to play and play hard. The lunatic fringe does not appreciate that. Sure, we all want to win more. But you also want somebody at the head of your program who cares, wants to win and isn't looking to make Clemson a stepping stone. Despite what you read on TNet, CBB cares. He is spilling his guts for Clemson. Not enough people recognize that.
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Re: What you are forgetting is
Feb 25, 2022, 7:47 PM
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I think you feel way too passionate about a coach who if he had three NCAATs in his four years here, Brad would have bolted to Indiana if offered the job. Probably Purdue too.
That is the chance you take by hiring someone with potential.
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Kinda like your passion for
Feb 26, 2022, 3:50 PM
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wanting his head on a pike.
We get it. Brad hurts your feelings. At least donate if you are going to continue to whine like a little girl.
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Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 25, 2022, 10:02 PM
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I don’t care how many millions you get paid. And Brad didn’t bolt after his initial great success. So we should just be happy we suck and keep paying Brad millions to suck because he’s willing to take it. You really can’t ask for more than that. Unless you are part of the…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss
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Re: Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 26, 2022, 2:19 PM
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When you say that "we suck" are you meaning specifically this year? The prior 4 years were not us "sucking"
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Re: Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 26, 2022, 2:37 PM
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What I meant was Brad sucks. As a coach.
I said “we” just to not seem so harsh, but you asked.
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Re: Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 26, 2022, 2:43 PM
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Ok. So you believe Brad brownell just simply sucks at coaching basketball. 10-4
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14-15, 6-12 is reality. Not opinion.
Feb 26, 2022, 11:02 PM
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10-4 wouldn’t be too bad.
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Re: 14-15, 6-12 is reality. Not opinion.
Feb 28, 2022, 9:27 AM
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Ok that's 2 years. Are you saying because of those 2 years, he sucks at coaching basketball?
Are you saying that no good basketball coach should ever have years like that? Are you assaying if we had coach k coach our current talent, we would be ranked abd headed to the ncaas?
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Re: Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 26, 2022, 3:26 PM
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When you say that "we suck" are you meaning specifically this year? The prior 4 years were not us "sucking"
So those prior 4 years Clemson went to sweet sixteen, NCAAT another with 16 wins, went to the NIT when they were ranked in the top 25 in the preseason, and finished 16-15 with probably no postseason.
So how is that very good?
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Re: Cobbie is right. Clemson is a pretty sucky job.
Feb 28, 2022, 9:28 AM
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??????????
This 4 years were not good, but the Purnell years, with no accomplishments was good. You just get more comical with every post.
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Couple of problems with your article
Feb 26, 2022, 9:27 AM
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What “taste of success” and often does not put a competitive team on the floor. The “fringe” is tired of people using history of program to say that we can’t or shouldn’t be successful. Granted, success is debatable. I’m not asking to be Duke or UNC. But I’m tired of the annual this is our year. But then we lose 5-6 games we shouldn’t have that keeps us out of the tournament. There are always injuries and bad luck and poor officiating. “The fringe” doesn’t understand folks who don’t want to be better. How do you change a legacy? 12 more years of meh?
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Re: What you are forgetting is
Feb 26, 2022, 9:41 AM
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I'd say 3m/yr is a HOT JOB in any basketball coach's mind.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 7:14 PM
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I would happily take on two years of hope ahead even if the two after that were dismal. Saying, if it were worse, it's just a few years of it and not a decade. Then we'd just go out and try again.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 7:34 PM
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People used to say the same about Tommy Bowden. I’m not saying the next basketball coach will be like Dabo, but sticking with something that isn’t working simply because you’re scared the next thing will be worse is a loser mentality.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 28, 2022, 8:53 AM
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I’ve always said, I’m willing to take a chance on getting worse than being guaranteed to be mediocre. Keeping Brad Brownell is choosing to be in the middle of the pack. Why not take a shot only young coach with an identity who Can bring excitement back to Clemson basketball? Rick Barnes had us ranked number two in the nation at one point, Pernell had us in the top 10 a few times. It can be done at Clemson
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 7:06 PM
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I personally would not be surprised either way. We are who we are with what we got. We know that after10 plus years. If it’s good enough then leave it alone, but if you are willing to attempt to take it up a notch (of course nothing is guaranteed) then I feel you must part ways. Again will not be surprised either way.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 7:24 PM
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If Mike White was interested, they were heavily involved with PJ Hall and in his final four or five schools. That would certainly favor Clemson since White has a strong relationship with Hall. Again, not saying White is a candidate or would be interested, but is a coincidence with any kind of tie to Clemson.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 25, 2022, 8:18 PM
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I’m glad you guys have something to keep your mind occupied.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 26, 2022, 6:03 AM
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Just curious - if the AD told Brad he is here for one more year and then gone no matter what happens would Brad stay on for that last year? If the answer is yes then we’ve had the wrong guy for several years now, which I think has been obvious.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 26, 2022, 2:16 PM
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Anybody serious, besides "someone who follows the acc"?
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If we want a quality Man keep Brad, if want to win 70%+ of games..
Feb 26, 2022, 2:28 PM
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then no. Saying, would be special to have both.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 28, 2022, 9:31 AM
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Lmao.
Do any of these people have any inside knowledge, or are they people just going down a list of coaches that didn't have a good year.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know Brad brownell is on the hot seat. Anybody that has the slightest knowledge of Clemson basketball knows this.
These writers have 0 inside kkowledge and they are just writing their annual "coaches hot seat" articles
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 28, 2022, 9:45 AM
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We beat Wake and BC with 2 key players missing...
Several guys have been playing hard lately including the younger guys.
I want to see how the season and tournament finish before I throw in the towel. The last 2 victories changed my opinion.
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Re: Seems to be some write ups and tweets gaining steam...
Feb 28, 2022, 10:02 AM
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Yes, it is normal and healthy to change your opinion based on reality and how we have been performing. Most Clemson basketball fans don't seem to be able to do that.
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