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Is there anybody in Tiger nation that can answer why
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Is there anybody in Tiger nation that can answer why


Oct 30, 2016, 1:40 AM

when we had FSU with a 4th and 13 near the end of the game, why didn't we decline the holding penalty and make FSU either try to make a long FG kick, or go for it on 4th and 13. Not declining that penalty still has me scratching my head. With the way it turned out, I'm glad we accepted the penalty and made it 3d and 23, but I don't understand giving them the 3d down back bc that could have with the way the game was going, put them in closer FG range.

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Scratched my head on that one too***


Oct 30, 2016, 1:43 AM



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Re: Scratched my head on that one too***


Oct 30, 2016, 1:44 AM

Me too..we could have ended the game if they didnt convert.

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Re: Is there anybody in Tiger nation that can answer why


Oct 30, 2016, 1:46 AM

I would have declined the penalty. The way our DBs played most of the night, I'd want one play to try not to get PI on (4th and 13) instead on two (3rd and 23).

In the end that's why they get paid the big bucks to make those decisions (and I don't).

Go Tigers!

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The way our pass rush was working, we stood a good


Oct 30, 2016, 1:54 AM

chance of sacking him on 3rd and 23.

The odds say 3rd & 23 is better than 4th and 13 when the other team is in "4-down mode" anyway.

Francois made a great play, but I like like giving the defense the chance to pin their ears back and go hard for the QB ...

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I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 1:54 AM

penalty was if they thought FSU stood a better chance of making a 67-yd field goal than making 23 yards in two plays or more than 10 yds in one play. I could be wrong, but I don't think they thought that, so my only explanation is that they screwed up but got lucky in the end.

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Re: I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 2:05 AM

I thought that same thing smiling, but not sure. I hope that someone asks Dabo that question, but I think I do know what his answer will be, and it won't be I don't know just a gut feeling bc FSU had just made a big gain play to even get to that point on the field....

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Re: I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 2:12 AM

They converted the 3rd and 23 or whatever so it was a moot point.

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Re: I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 2:16 AM

It's not a moot point because our DB's wouldn't have played FSU's receivers the same way if it was 4th & 13 vs 3rd & 23. It worked out, but accepting the penalty wasn't the right decision imo.


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Re: I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 2:20 AM

I agree they should have declined but our dbs choked on 3rd and 23 so they probably would've on 4th and 13 too

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Re: I think they made a mistake. The only reason to accept the


Oct 30, 2016, 4:09 AM

Thats like saying you would have made your above post without my initial response. Sounds stupid, eh?

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i didn't get that either


Oct 30, 2016, 4:11 AM

Especially considering the large amount of pass interferences that has been being called

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Re: i didn't get that either


Oct 30, 2016, 4:23 AM

The only thing I can figure is that Dabo wanted to put them a little further out of FG range and give them 23 yards to get a first down and not 13. I'm telling ya, Ferrell Wilkins Watkins and Lawrence are simply STUDS on that DL, SIX sacks. Everyone of them crucial.

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