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Pylongate: That was BS.
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Pylongate: That was BS.


Sep 30, 2012, 3:09 AM

If that was a non-TD, then anytime a player's left foot is out of bounds in the air while their right front drags the turf during a catch is, then that is an Incomplete pass. But we all know that has always been ruled a catch.

Nuk was robbed Plain and Simple.

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Thats exactly my thoughts and why I think


Sep 30, 2012, 3:43 AM

that rule is completely stupid

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Sep 30, 2012, 3:46 AM

totally agree

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But if a player goes airborne and his entire body


Sep 30, 2012, 4:33 AM

Is out of bounds, all he has to do is touch the pylon with the football and it's a TD? I thought the pylon is part of the end zone, NOT OOB?

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If you can touch the pylon, you broke the plane of the EZ


Sep 30, 2012, 6:04 AM

Nuk was screwed by a stupid rule, but it was the right call by the refs.

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The first thing that came to mind: the nitpicking replay


Sep 30, 2012, 6:09 AM

officials must have dug deep to find a way to justify the ruling. I don't ever remember seeing or hearing that type of decision.

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:07 AM

I thought the very samething. How many FBs have we seen hit the pylon first reaching in, called a TD. Yes, I also say BS. Robbery in the first degree!!!

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:20 AM

According to the rule, if the player doesn't have possession of the ball (which Nuk didn't) when hitting the pylon then the player is out of bounds when hitting the pylon.

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The rules could not be clearer...they got it right***


Sep 30, 2012, 7:27 AM



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Sep 30, 2012, 10:14 AM

But, if he was out of bounds would he not have been guilty of illegal first touching? Rule 7, ARTICLE 4. No eligible offensive receiver who goes out of bounds during a down shall touch a legal forward pass in the field of play or end zones or while airborne until it has been touched by an opponent or official. The only exception to this is if he was pushed out of bounds.

So I believe the official did not think he made the catch. Replay just happened to see him touching the pylon.

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Sep 30, 2012, 7:36 AM

Correct call--
I thought Nuk was robbed too initially, but the refs got the call right. The pylon is out of bounds. Nuk's foot touched it in the air, he is out of bounds, therefore an ineligible receiver when he comes back in bounds. If the ball hits the inside of the pylon, it is presumed that a portion of the ball crossed the goal line. Here is the rule:

Under National Federation rules which is essencially the same as the college rules: The goal line pylon (1-2-4) by definition is out of bounds. If the RUNNER is touching the ground in bounds, then he possesses a live ball in his opponent's endzone which by rule is a touchdown (8-2-1 & 1a). The player must be considered inbounds at the time the ball breaks the plane of the goal line or goal line extended. If the player is in bounds, then it is a TD with scenarios of the ball touching the pylon.

OTHERWISE, if the runner is airborne, (i.e." leaps or dives")he must hit the inside of the pylon. That implies that the ball crossed the goal line in bounds before it went out of bounds in possession of a RUNNER. If the runner is airborne, then hitting the pylon is out of bounds and the ball is placed according to (2-40-4c) the in bounds spot. Which is probably a few inches before the pylon. The forward point of the ball striking the pylon means that the ball had to be OB to hit the pylon. Where the ball went out is up to the covering official. It is where it crosses/intersects the sideline. From the 2003 National Federation Case Book (Situation 1.2.4 pp. 5-6)
PLAY: Ball carrier A10 dives into the pylon at the intersection of the goal line and sideline. RULING: Touchdown. Assuming the pylon was placed properly, the ball broke the plane of the goal line prior to touching the pylon.

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Thought the pylon, just like a ref, was part of the ....


Sep 30, 2012, 8:37 AM

playing field and therefore considered "in bounds". Players dive to touch the pylon with the ball all the time and it is called a TD, not out of bounds

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Sep 30, 2012, 8:40 AM

therefore it is a touchdown regardless of what happens afterward.

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You youngsters. I tried to warn you yesstidy....


Sep 30, 2012, 8:38 AM

Just read David Hood's final thoughts. He mentions that we [1]
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lost up there so many times because under Tommy we were so much of a finesse team. Maybe so. But we lost up there one year because we got FIVE of the most horrendous calls in one game that a team can get. I mean, HOSED. Admittedly, every fan thinks their team gets the short end of the stick from refs, but that game was terrible.Three calls alone sealed the win for BC.One, on the second half kickoff, we had a guy,#34 I think, right in his lane ready to make the tackle at about the 20 and he was SHOVED square in the back so that he fell flat on his face...RIGHT IN FRONT OF A REF. The runner went right by him and the return went for a TD. Then, Michael Hamlin gets an interception where he and the BC receiver had the ball at the same time in the air, but MH had it first and as soon as they hit the ground Michael twists and comes away with it. Ruled an interception on the field, over ruled in the booth. TOTAL BS. And then on our last drive I think, and this after a previous bogus pass interference on us, on third and about 4 on the BC 40 maybe, Chansi Stuckey runs a quick slant and is absolutely blown up before the ball gets there. Clearly interference. NO CALL.

Spud never forgets!!! GO Tigers!!

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Yep, he was beyond robbed. Horrible call but still got the W


Sep 30, 2012, 8:40 AM

Go Tigers

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