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Simple poll: If it's proven Trump had top secret nuke docs
Aug 12, 2022, 2:06 PM
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Should he go to prison?
Just a simple yes or no will do.
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no***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:10 PM
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He knows that's a loaded poll
Aug 12, 2022, 2:16 PM
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That's like saying, should anyone who kills a person go to jail? Yes or no. Nothing else
Well, did they kill they person after.they were stabbed 10 times?
Was he ###### his child?
Any nuclear document could be stating the word nuclear in it reference the cold war or whatever. Something harmless is my point.
But whatever Cata. Play your little gotcha game
And for the record, if he is actually found to do something criminal after a trial, then put him in jail. I got no problem.with that. Just like Hillary should be right now. Comey even stated she had 16 accts of criminal activity but no charges.
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Do you honestly believe all this is over some technicality?***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:29 PM
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no, my guess was initially it was a fishing expedition.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:34 PM
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Then they were caught off guard by ALL the hate coming at them.
Then they had throw something out there to help feed the sharks.
They've already stated they were caught off guard initially by the pushback on all of this.
They also said Garland had no knowledge of this. Then a day later, guess what, that was a lie.
They also said this was for archives. Well, now its supposedly he has nuclear top secret docs. I dont think the archives would want that.
so which is it? Is that another lie?
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You are a conspiracy nut who complains about
Aug 12, 2022, 2:38 PM
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conspiracy nuts.
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i have rarely ever latched onto conspiracies, but ok
Aug 12, 2022, 2:44 PM
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You mean like the russian collusion was a hoax. Not a conspiracy as we learned.
I'm sure I believed a couple over that past 10 yrs for a brief moment.
You call out conspiracy theorists while latching onto conspiracies.
But again, liberals never seem to have conspiracies, cause they believe them to be true
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Let's review once more, since you avoided my post from
Aug 12, 2022, 2:57 PM
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this morning. Trump hired Paul Manafort as his campaign manager, a man who to that point in his life had never even worked in a campaign, much less managed one. Now, for as shrewd as Trump is...why would he do that?
We've since learned that Manafort has longstanding ties to the Russian intelligence community. Not only that, he absolutely was passing them confidential, internal campaign polling info. What did Russian intelligence do with that data in 2016? For all your complaining about social media platforms not allowing content regarding Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020, they sure allowed metric tons of targeted anti-Hillary garbage to very specific demographics and users on those platforms--audiences they wouldn't have had intelligence on if not for that polling data, based on the accounts I've read. It very likely provided the razor-slim margins Trump needed to take key states in 2016.
"Russian collusion was a hoax" is based on your point-in-time end-of-Mueller-investigation screed from the right, and it's since been connected. And there's likely a whole lot more to be uncovered there. So stop with that bullshit, because it's bullshit.
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Re: Let's review once more, since you avoided my post from
Oct 14, 2022, 9:26 AM
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this morning. Trump hired Paul Manafort as his campaign manager, a man who to that point in his life had never even worked in a campaign, much less managed one. Now, for as shrewd as Trump is...why would he do that?
We've since learned that Manafort has longstanding ties to the Russian intelligence community. Not only that, he absolutely was passing them confidential, internal campaign polling info. What did Russian intelligence do with that data in 2016? For all your complaining about social media platforms not allowing content regarding Hunter Biden's laptop in 2020, they sure allowed metric tons of targeted anti-Hillary garbage to very specific demographics and users on those platforms--audiences they wouldn't have had intelligence on if not for that polling data, based on the accounts I've read. It very likely provided the razor-slim margins Trump needed to take key states in 2016.
"Russian collusion was a hoax" is based on your point-in-time end-of-Mueller-investigation screed from the right, and it's since been connected. And there's likely a whole lot more to be uncovered there. So stop with that bullshit, because it's bullshit.
Lmao.
It was bombshell after bomb shell that all the democrats and "centrists" believed over and over again. All of those bombshells never materialized. Instead of admitting the fact that they got duped over a false conspiracy theory, they are low saying this manafort crap proves it all and hey we're never hoaxed. We aren't that stupid.
Now the Russian collusion hoaxers are hanging their hat on the fact that manafort shared polling data with a Ukrainian that he has had a relationshopship with for 20+ Years. Wow!!! BOMBSHELL!!
These same people that think this is some crazy bombshell don't care about the fact that hillary and the DNC colluded with Russians to try and frame don jr and the trump campaign.
Russian lawyer Natalia vetsylnetskya arranged a meeting a trimp tower promising dirt on hillary, they met and it came out as a BOMBSHELL that they were meeting with a Russian lawyer.
Turns out that hillary and fusion gps set the entire meeting up. Owner of fusion gps Glenn Simpson met with the Russian lawyer before and after the meeting. The "dirt" that she had on Hillary was given to her by Glenn Simpson. LMAO.
Lets also not forget that Hillary, the DNC, and the FBI colluded with Spy's from other countries to frame trump. The FBI offered Christopher Steele 1 million to corroborate the dossier. He couldn't do that. The FBI then used parts of the dossier to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump's campaign.
All that is all good though. The manafort stuff is a step too far!!!
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Re: Simple poll: If it's proven Trump had top secret nuke docs
Aug 12, 2022, 2:11 PM
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No
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Is that illegal? Then yes***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:14 PM
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Yes, of course why he had them would be significant.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:16 PM
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Because I can think of no reason why he would have them that is not a serious crime.
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yes if they can prove intent, otherwise no.***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:21 PM
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I could be convinced otherwise, but right now I'm here.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:26 PM
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Was the information coincidentally a part of stuff he took.
Or was there a reason for it.
I do find it funny that some of the more conspiracy minded dopes in here haven't even considered the possibility that Trump would keep and sell classified information to bad actors like the Saudis to help cover debt obligations or open up new business deals. That's hardly far-fetched.
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Re: I could be convinced otherwise, but right now I'm here.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:28 PM
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Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololollllollololpoplollooololoollolp
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Provide your list of possible reasons why Trump
Aug 12, 2022, 2:32 PM
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(apparently) went out of his way to possess top secret nuclear documents outside of DC. There must be tons of valid reasons why this could have happened. Whatcha got?
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First of all, you're going off the premise that anonymous
Aug 12, 2022, 2:40 PM
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story is true. After russian collusion, we know hundreds of those truthful articles were lies.
But regardless, lets say its true, I have no clue. Is it a harmless document? or is it truly some top secret doc on locations of nuclear weapons? Lets say its that. I wouldn't think he would need those. Were those locations lumped in 1000 pages about something else?
You see my point. They can say he has nuclear secrets. There is no absolutes Anakin.
But I'm sure you'll come back with some bs about how there is absolutes in this case....
AND NOW you're supporting a total lunacy conspiracy theory that you have 0 evidence to back it up.
Conspiracy nuts everywhere these days
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So, when it's confirmed that they actually were nuclear
Aug 12, 2022, 2:50 PM
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documents, you're going with "planted by the FBI"? While you call other people "conspiracy nuts"?
BTW, I'm most certainly NOT claiming that Trump was doing something nefarious and treasonous like selling nuclear secrets to other countries. I'm merely asking what possible reasons he could have for removing said documents from DC premises (if that's found to be true). And you obviously know that nuclear-related content isn't randomly sprinkled into other top secret document caches.
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we all know Trump is an avid reader
Aug 12, 2022, 2:58 PM
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and has an insatiable intellectual curiosity. He likely just wanted to educate himself.
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if he's found and convicted, i agree
Oct 13, 2022, 2:06 PM
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All of a sudden, this whole him selling secrets to the saudi's started its rounds. Nutbaggery.
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All of a sudden?
Oct 13, 2022, 2:23 PM
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I floated the idea back in August.
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Re: Provide your list of possible reasons why Trump
Aug 12, 2022, 2:40 PM
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I seriously doubt he’d do something like that. I think
1. He’s an idiot
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2. He thinks rules don’t apply to him
Are far more likely explanations
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I don't necessarily believe this
Oct 13, 2022, 9:52 PM
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He could have them to stay relevant and in the news
He looks like a victim to his base and has garnered plenty of media coverage from it all
That's some 4D chess for the campaign right there
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Re: I could be convinced otherwise, but right now I'm here.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:31 PM
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Right - there are two parties (not political) that aren't exactly trustworthy. Nothing that comes of this would actually shock me.
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Re: I could be convinced otherwise, but right now I'm here.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:36 PM
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As I said, if he took it, it was either leverage or a commodity to him.
I'm hoping it was just some kind of power game but I'm fearful it was a commodity. And if he was selling the stuff...good God.
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Re: I could be convinced otherwise, but right now I'm here.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:43 PM
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JFC
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Yes. Don't care if it's prison...just that he goes away.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:32 PM
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Exits American consciousness for good.
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Re: Simple poll: If it's proven Trump had top secret nuke docs
Aug 12, 2022, 2:36 PM
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Absolutely yes.
No one is above the law.
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If he's broken laws, he should pay the appropriate price.
Aug 12, 2022, 2:37 PM
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The same as anybody else. Period.
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Nope. He was the president, get over it.***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:37 PM
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Re: Nope. He was the president, get over it.***
Aug 12, 2022, 2:44 PM
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Sorry Zippy, at the point he took the docs he was the former president, and federal law clearly states he is not allowed to take what he took.
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How did he take the docs? Like physically how did he do it?***
Aug 12, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Re: How did he take the docs? Like physically how did he do it?***
Aug 12, 2022, 3:13 PM
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I hope you're smart enough, not counting on it but *hoping*, to understand it's not about how the docs got there, as it is that they were removed at his order, illegally, and were in his possession on his property.
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Re: How did he take the docs? Like physically how did he do it?***
Aug 12, 2022, 3:24 PM
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They were sent to him while he was president on his request, declassified by him, and copies were made by the GSA (who did the work.) Then when the FBI started investigating he showed them where they were stored and showed them what he had and they told him to put in an extra special lock for the door and everything was good. This whole thing, as usual, is a hoax.
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He was so busy plotting an overthrow of the US Government
Aug 12, 2022, 2:57 PM
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that he probably neglected to plan for the move. When 3 Men and a Truck showed up on moving day, he just told them to grab every box and haul it down to Mar A Lago. They grabbed a few too many. No big whoop.
No man is above the law, so yes to prison. Perhaps he could be convicted and Biden could issue a partial or conditional pardon as a nation healing gesture.
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Re: Simple poll: If it's proven Trump had top secret nuke docs
Aug 12, 2022, 3:26 PM
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No.
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Re: Simple poll: If it's proven Trump had top secret nuke docs
Aug 12, 2022, 3:28 PM
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yes
Aug 12, 2022, 5:16 PM
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unless he can prove insanity in which case he should be hospitalized for the remainder of his life.
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Noooo. He's enough of a martyr now.***
Oct 13, 2022, 9:14 PM
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Nope***
Oct 13, 2022, 11:30 PM
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It WAS PROVEN HRC
Oct 14, 2022, 9:28 AM
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received and sent classified information many times user her (illegal) DIY email server set up by the Geek Squad instead of NSA.
What happened to her?
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