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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 11, 2022, 10:10 PM
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I'm only concerned with getting back to the playoffs.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 11, 2022, 10:25 PM
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love this idea and have been wanting to see it for years. Especially if FSU, NCST & GT are our 3 permanents and Miami & UNC in one pod of 5 and VT & Louisville in the other. This would give us a pretty solid schedule every year.
Would also love to see the SEC do the same thing. If they did, the Coots already slim chances of winning the SEC would be virtually eliminated. There’s no way in heck they would ever be one of the best two teams in that conference at the end of the regular season to make it to the SECCG.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 11, 2022, 11:33 PM
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Agreed. Solid ACC schedule plus future noncon opponents including Notre Dame, LSU, UGA and Oklahoma.
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When have you been wrong??? ??***
May 11, 2022, 10:35 PM
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Nikki has a list . . .***
May 11, 2022, 10:46 PM
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Her list is wrong, but David just nods his head and agrees.***
May 12, 2022, 11:46 AM
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Those lists always start with the same two rules:
May 12, 2022, 1:22 PM
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Rule One: The wife is always right.
Rule Two: When in doubt, see Rule One.
The EASY Rule to remember is: Happy Wife, Happy Life!
And, no husband even wants to consider all the heinous things that WILL happen if THAT rule is not followed.
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When he wrote that Dabo was the wrong hire.
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May 12, 2022, 8:21 AM
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I don’t remember the exact words. But that was definitely the main idea of an article he wrote.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 11, 2022, 11:36 PM
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When it comes to rotating the other ten, I hope we go with an approach where we play the same team in back to back years but have a change of two to three each season as teams stagger through the process - think long term. Not two seasons in a row of the same, or a gap year between the matchups, but with 5 teams outside of the 3 permanents start a rotation where 2 to 3 shift each year. Starting out we may play a few teams and then not see them again until year 4, but that's okay, because year 5 would kick in and we're all on back to back years from there going forward with some mixaround. In a two year span each team would play 10-11 others from the rest of the league. I think that's what we're looking for.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 12:23 AM
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Why? I see no problem with doing it the other ways.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 11:14 AM
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From a scheduling standpoint, you can't achieve a balanced 4/4 home/away schedule with the gap approach if you just flip the home fields two years later because it's an odd number of teams you're doing it with (5) and you still have the 3 annuals come back on the same rotation. You'd have to flip one of the annual games to make it work, creating two straight seasons of either a home or away game against the same team. Not gonna fly.
Staggering the 5 where 2 or 3 rotate out for a two-year hiatus each season, then back on the schedule for 2 straight, means that every two years a program would play either 10 or 11 of the remaining 13, instead of only 8, so throughout the league, from season to season, we would all experience more variety at a higher clip. IMO, on a yearly basis, I would rather see the league, and us, experience some new blood from the season prior. With the same five for two years then flipping to a different five, to me that's too drastic - it would ebb away at continuity. I'd prefer it be more incremental from year to year.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 11:27 AM
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You can achieve a balanced 4/4 home/away with the proposed model. Not sure what you are trying to say here.
Year 1 hypothetical
vs GTech (permanent opponent)
vs FSU (permanent opponent)
vs Wake Forest
vs Pittsburgh
at NCSU (permanent opponent)
at Louisville
at Boston College
at Virginia
Year 2 hypothetical
vs NCSU, Louisville, BC, UVA
at GT, FSU, Wake, Pitt
Year 3 hypothetical
vs GTech
vs FSU
vs Syracuse
vs Duke
at NCSU
at Miami
at V Tech
at UNC
Year 4 hypothetical
vs NCSU, Miami, VT, UNC
at GT, FSU, Cuse, Duke
4 years, we've hosted and visited every team with a balanced home/away schedule.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 12:35 PM
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David proposed two approaches. One rotated the non-annuals in one year, then swapped them all out the second year, then reset in year 3 but flipping the home fields. With 3 annuals this will not work. I referred to this as the gap approach.
For the other approach, where it's two years on and two years off with the non-annuals, I prefer staggering them so that we don't have the same league schedule for two years in a row then a heavy change for the next two years, then back again. I prefer it to be staggered so that each season there are few coming in for a two-year series and a few going off to wait two years to resume. That's all.
Go Tigers.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 9:34 AM
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It might be cool to try running the conference like the English Premier League, where there are two tiers of teams and the better teams play in the upper tier and the lesser teams play in the lower tier, with teams either elevated or relegated depending on some mutually agreed criteria.
That MIGHT work.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 1:03 PM
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So Clemson beats FSU, Pitt, Miami, UNC, NC St, Ga Tech to play WF who beat VT, Duke, BC, Syr, Louisville, UVA in the ACC Championship game?
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 1:52 PM
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No, that's not what he's saying. Only the teams in the top tier would be eligible for the championship.
In the EPL, there tiers of teams. Kind of like major league and minor league baseball...except they are not "farm" teams that feed into MLB. They are independent clubs. Teams can be advanced up or relegated down based on their season record.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 1:12 PM
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I was for this type of model if the ACC forced a 9 game league schedule on us, where a Premier division team would get the 5th home game from a 'Champions' division team. Promote and relegate every two years based on the prior 3 years of overall conference records. If the league was going to cost us a quality OOC team or a home game with a move to 9 games, I thought that would be a fair structure to compensate programs like ours for that loss. The extra league game would come at the expense of one of our other guaranteed home games and not necessarily a quality OOC home and home opponent.
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Re: Possible ACC schedule change
May 12, 2022, 9:39 AM
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Scrapping the divisions is a terrible idea. It brings more teams into the title race, which makes more of your games marketable. The best idea is to keep the division, but rotate the schools between the divisions.
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Me personally, I would rather see the Tarholes every year
May 12, 2022, 1:18 PM
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than the Bees. I never see the Techno Nerds as being a passionate fanbase. They finish probably third in their own state, behind the Dawgs and Georgia Southern. But, somebody somewhere thinks we HAVE to have them as a rival, I guess.
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