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Judge Keller
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Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 8:46 PM

What’s your excuse/defense for Brad now? We get Monte off payroll but can’t do the same for Brad? No more mediocrity. It’s time we take our concerns to Neff. We deserve better than this

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 8:50 PM

“Iowa is a great team. Basketball blue blood royalty. Clemson should never expect a chance against such a good team. Unless we pay Brad more, then I’m sure everything would change. Even with the sucky fans Clemson has. Scoring droughts and brown Ls are what Clemson fans deserve.”

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 8:53 PM

Iowa is very good, we can't complete with them but are showing up pretty good other than the really bad shot selection.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 9:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Keller ]

Iowa has beaten 4 excellent teams.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 9:57 PM

What!? Seton Hall is their only victory with a top 80 RPI or NET. Clemson has a NET of 81 but the RPI is trash. The other 3 teams Iowa have played are awful (Bethune Cookman, NC A&T , and Omaha).

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 10:25 PM

And Seton Hall has a new coach. Old Seton Hall Coach has Maryland at 6-0m so far. Wish we had him.

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You were making jokes, right?***


Nov 26, 2022, 12:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Judge Keller ]



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Iowa had more fans there. Hear how loud they were?!?


Nov 25, 2022, 10:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Keller ]

Clemson’s CLEAR lack of fan support cost them the game!

~JKB

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Re: Iowa had more fans there. Hear how loud they were?!?


Nov 26, 2022, 1:27 AM

I thought it was because the locker room orientation that caused us to play poorly?

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 8:52 PM

It ends this year

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Players need to boycott CBB


Nov 25, 2022, 9:12 PM

They are better off just ignoring him. They have a better group of athletes, but they have absolutely no chance to compete with a slow-motion offense. They need to push it up and attack with screens & cuts. If they play a match up zone defense, they can cover up the lack of size & pull some weak side rebounds.

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Re: Players need to boycott CBB


Nov 25, 2022, 9:53 PM

They don’t have the personnel for that offense. We have maybe 3 guys who can fit in that scheme. Schef chase and hunt. An offense like that weakens the strengths of Alex and brevin and completely takes pj hall out of the equation

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And we’d be better off collectively ignoring JK. He’s


Nov 25, 2022, 10:54 PM [ in reply to Players need to boycott CBB ]

nothing but a troll.


And I’m starting to believe he may be a Tigernet invention to drive clicks. Seriously.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Players need to boycott CBB


Nov 27, 2022, 12:35 AM [ in reply to Players need to boycott CBB ]

coachmac said:

They are better off just ignoring him. They have a better group of athletes, but they have absolutely no chance to compete with a slow-motion offense. They need to push it up and attack with screens & cuts. If they play a match up zone defense, they can cover up the lack of size & pull some weak side rebounds.





Wow talk about being a hater. Players need to boycott. Yea right the players respect their coach which is the opposite of you and your lack of respect for Clemson Basketball. Players need to boycott is the most ignorant reply one could have typed. It's almost like the Treason on Jan 6th.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 9:16 PM

Iowa is pretty good. We are kind of good as usual. NIT good maybe?

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 26, 2022, 10:25 AM

Clemson constantly out recruits Iowa, by a good bit. So how is it they are better? Coaching?

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Prepare to get SCOLDED!!! (At 1 AM or later)


Nov 25, 2022, 10:18 PM

Hopefully you’re awake to get what you deserve!!!

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~JKB

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If Brad was paid more he would call a better play at the end***


Nov 25, 2022, 10:21 PM



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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 10:44 PM

No one pulls a defeat out of the jaws of victory like Brad Brownlee……by far the worse 2 minutes end of game coaching out there……knows how to choke when the chips are down…….just pitiful!

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Pretty much the only things that's been consistent for 12 years...


Nov 25, 2022, 10:48 PM

Close losses and terrible end of game coaching.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 25, 2022, 11:44 PM

Pride,

What is it, exactly, that you have done to DESERVE a better basketball program ??

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This thread is exhibit A showing how lousy our fan base is.


Nov 26, 2022, 12:33 AM

Rather than applauding the effort of a team who essentially played without its best player tonight, and who was the victim of some absolutely horrible officiating, we fought back from being down 14 in the second half and gave ourselves a chance to win against team ranked in the top 25 of the polls and top 15 in KenPom.

Of course we would’ve liked to win, and I for one am mad we didn’t, but if you didn’t come away from this game seeing a lot of bright spots for our team then you might need to change your perspective.

Don’t you have a football game to be thinking about? Leave basketball to the fans who actually support the team and don’t bash them every chance they get.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Let’s make a deal.


Nov 26, 2022, 12:37 AM

You follow your last line of advice for football and we’ll do the same for bball. Shouldn’t expect to hear much from you tomorrow since you have a bball game to be thinking about.

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You don’t get it.


Nov 26, 2022, 12:41 AM

Football has underachieved for a while now, relative to our talent level and support for the program.

Basketball overachieves based on those same metrics, but I know that’s hard for some of you to accept because you want to believe that Clemson supports everything amazingly.

Let me know when Clemson basketball has among the nation’s best facilities and highest bankrolled basketball program, and then we’ll talk.

Heck, just put us in a conference that gives us an easy path to victory like we have in the ACC for football and I bet we would see much more basketball success - even with our poor support.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


So in other words…


Nov 26, 2022, 12:46 AM

You won’t leave football to the fans who support the team and not bash it every chance you get.

Got it.

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I do support the football program.


Nov 26, 2022, 12:55 AM

But my expectations for it are commensurate with our history in the sport, how well it’s supported by our athletic department and fans, and the level of competition we play.

Based on these factors, we should be winning the ACC, we shouldn’t be losing to NC State, Pitt, or Notre Dame, and we shouldn’t have an offense in the bottom half of FBS.

Hope that helps clarify for you.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: I do support the football program.


Nov 26, 2022, 1:06 AM

We have been winning the ACC on a regular basis you fool. The Clemson football program has lived up to the standard. Playing for conference championships almost every year for the past decade. We had one down year. Going to the playoffs isn’t required to have a great season.

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We had a down year last year and a down year this year.


Nov 26, 2022, 11:28 AM

Keep living on playoff appearances from several years ago if you like, but we’ve underachieved lately. At some point, the downward trend in our program can’t be ignored - no matter how hard it might be to admit.

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Re: We had a down year last year and a down year this year.


Nov 26, 2022, 11:31 AM

He's saying ACC championships not playoffs.

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Re: We had a down year last year and a down year this year.


Nov 26, 2022, 11:35 AM

He’s also saying playoffs “several” years ago when it has been one completed season since we were in playoffs. Also our football expenditures are top 20 not top 4. So by the what spend measure Dabo hasn’t underachieved since 2010. Basically every aspect of his argument is built on fallacies.

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Yep. That, and she'd give her left


Nov 26, 2022, 11:41 AM

breastage for a #14 finish in basketball. And now she's acting like 10-1 and #8 is also "down", as if that's not rare air any program.

The lady is full of crap. The bad thing is she knows it, yet she's allowed to continue trolling the board, with several handles even.

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Re: I do support the football program.


Nov 26, 2022, 10:03 AM [ in reply to I do support the football program. ]

No you don't.....

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Except Bama, the football team has achieved more than every program


Nov 26, 2022, 1:23 AM [ in reply to You don’t get it. ]

in America since Dabo was hired as head coach. Dabo has NOT recruited the 2nd highest ranked overall roster during his tenure. We're not overall as talented as a bunch of 'elite' teams, yet most often we achieve more than most everyone. More wins, more playoffs, more playoff wins, more national championship games, and two national championships in the midst of the 2nd longest home winning streak in modern football.

Sorry ma'am, that IS overachieving

And contrary to your oft-used, always defeated excuses, basketball talent is fine, basketball support from the administration is above average, we have above average facilities, and we have fans that are rabid when there's a decent product on the court. Brad had fans. He inherited a ton of fan supprt. It was HIS fault he lost the fans. He doesn't win enough, and watching paint dry is a more exciting experience than watching these guys play offense.

We have basketball fans. We have finances. We have facilities. We have good players. But in 12 years we've finished in the top 40 twice. TWICE IN 12 YEARS. And Brad is the 38th highest paid coach in America? So OBVIOUSLY he isn't meeting expectations, and CLEARLY he's underachieving.

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Iowa’s men’s basketball budget was $7,860,000…


Nov 26, 2022, 5:40 AM [ in reply to You don’t get it. ]

in 2021, Clemson’s is over $8,000,000.

www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms/0920_ITEM_5__Athletic_Budgets_BFC120D785F8A.pdf
https://clemsontigers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/EADA-file-1.pdf

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Iowa’s men’s basketball budget was $7,860,000…


Nov 26, 2022, 5:47 AM


in 2021, Clemson’s is over $8,000,000.

www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms/0920_ITEM_5__Athletic_Budgets_BFC120D785F8A.pdf
https://clemsontigers.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/EADA-file-1.pdf


Unfortinatelly The Judge won't respond to your fact because it goes against his argument.

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There is nothing to respond to.


Nov 26, 2022, 11:38 AM

We spend about the same in men’s basketball.

We were two evenly matched teams last night.

There are other factors that matter too, such as:

-Iowa has a much better basketball history than we do. They have won their conference tournament multiple times (versus zero for us), they have been to the NCAA Tournament 28 times (versus 12 for us), made 8 Sweet 16s (versus 3 for us), and been to the Final Four three times (versus our zero).
-They have much better fan support than we do. They have nearly 13,000 fans at their home games, and have ranked in the top 25 nationally in attendance. For comparison, we have thousands less than that at our home games, and are never among the nation’s best supported basketball teams.
-Their facilities are superior to ours. They regularly make upgrades and enhancements.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


At least we are narrowing down reasons we aren’t more…


Nov 26, 2022, 12:19 PM

successful. I’ll cross bankroll off the list.

“Let me know when Clemson basketball has among the nation’s best facilities and highest bankrolled basketball program, and then we’ll talk.”

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Re: Iowa’s men’s basketball budget was $7,860,000…


Nov 27, 2022, 12:12 AM [ in reply to Re: Iowa’s men’s basketball budget was $7,860,000… ]

Just face the facts both basketball and football lost to the Gamecocks. Clemson lost to a good Iowa team ranked 25th in the nation. They lost by 3 and you have fools on here running their mouths. The basketball team is 5-2 and yes the win against the 0-7 Cal team really doesn't mean a thing.

nctigs the judge did respond and he knows how to spell.

Last I checked it was Unfortunately not Unfortinatelly) I wonder if your lack of belief in Brad is better than your spelling?

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Re: You don’t get it.


Nov 26, 2022, 10:01 AM [ in reply to You don’t get it. ]


Football has underachieved for a while now, relative to our talent level and support for the program.

Basketball overachieves based on those same metrics, but I know that’s hard for some of you to accept because you want to believe that Clemson supports everything amazingly.

Let me know when Clemson basketball has among the nation’s best facilities and highest bankrolled basketball program, and then we’ll talk.

Heck, just put us in a conference that gives us an easy path to victory like we have in the ACC for football and I bet we would see much more basketball success - even with our poor support.


Overachieve?.

Like 3 trips to the Big dance in 12 years overachieve?....

???

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No, like finishing 8th on average in the ACC over the past 12 years


Nov 26, 2022, 11:40 AM

despite ranking near the bottom of the 15 team league in basketball expenditures, attendance, and history.

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I’ve found that conference!!!


Nov 26, 2022, 10:26 AM [ in reply to You don’t get it. ]



BROWNLEE WILL DOMINATE IT ALMOST EVERY OTHER YEAR!!!

~JKB

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Re: You don’t get it.


Nov 26, 2022, 10:52 AM [ in reply to You don’t get it. ]

YOU are one of the reasons I am turned off by Clemson basketball.

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Why? Cuz I want a better product on the court?


Nov 26, 2022, 10:57 AM

Give me a better coach and I’ll be supportive and patient. I gave Brad around 10 years. Sorry, time to get somebody better qualified for the job.

~JKB

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Lady, Brown-L sucks...


Nov 26, 2022, 5:26 AM [ in reply to This thread is exhibit A showing how lousy our fan base is. ]

Just admit it.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 26, 2022, 10:35 AM

Hilarious that you idiots call JK a troll and want him to "go away" yet he has multiple threads created about him a week.

Truly pathetic that he is on your minds constantly. How embarrassing for you.

Delusional Clemson fans....



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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 26, 2022, 11:39 AM

Are you jealous of the attention he gets? Why does it concern you? I went scorched earth on JK after a series of racist and misogynistic posts that should have earned him a ban. We don’t agree on Brownell and I don’t think your arguments are very well thought out, but I don’t view you as a bad actor who wishes ill upon Clemson. JK does. If you want to correct me and announce your derision for everything Clemson maybe you can get the attention you deserve.

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Imagine dedicating so much time to caring***


Nov 26, 2022, 11:50 AM



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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 26, 2022, 2:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Judge Keller ]

Lmao! No I'm not jealous. Hilarious you are pulling the racist card. Very on brand for you.

It's hilarious to me because you idiots hat JK, but you all can't leave him alone. You're obsessed. Again, sad and embarrassing.

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Re: Judge Keller


Nov 27, 2022, 12:16 AM [ in reply to Re: Judge Keller ]

With that reply all those who troll the Judge should crawl back under the rock they came from.
Clemson mountaineers you deserve a trophy for this post.

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